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97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem
« on: November 27, 2011, 07:09:57 pm »
My neighbor’s 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage problem was reported to ATS for advice. It has a 3.8L engine and the vehicle was bought since it was new. According to them, it’s been a while since their mechanic did a tune up and they felt that lately that the engine is running rough.  >:(

During yesterday’s check up, the mechanic took the fault code and got P0300 random misfire code. He tried repairing some leaky vacuum hose but the engine was still running rough. He also got the same P0303 code. Thinking that he had a bad #3 cylinder, he took the cylinder #3 compression reading and it was normal. The same compression reading goes for the rest of the engine cylinders.

Thinking the problem was not mechanical; he replaced the ignition coil pack and finally, replaced the egr valve which might be sticking intermittently. The code P0303 came back and this is where he got stuck. My neighbor now is now asking me how to help his mechanic. After all the things the mechanic did, what other reasons could cause a P0303 which result in having an engine with bad mileage?

Diagnosis for 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem:

Fixing this 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage needs a complete analogy of this P0303 fault code which can be caused by:

1.) Bad or worn cylinder but compression test showed it was good.
2.) Bad ignition coil which he replaced already.
3.) Sticky egr valve which can cause the fuel mixture to run lean and was replaced already.
3.) Bad fuel injector or defective injector wiring connections. ;)

In all probability, it is safe to explore the 4th option. I would start by checking the injector signal in cylinder #3. Using a noid light, you can disconnect the #3 injector plug in and connect the noid light tester. When the engine is crank, you should see the noid light blinking. If it does, injector circuit is fine.

To check, test and compare the rated resistance of the injector windings. Otherwise, the we need to check the injector wiring circuit from the ecm upto the injector plug in. You should get a resistance not higher than 5 ohms or you have a short or open connection in the wires. To do this properly, you need a complete wiring diagram of the ecm circuit from ATS.

Assuming the noid light is blinking OK and the same goes for the next 2 cylinders, I would go to the removal of the injector itself. This requires the removal of the intake manifold so you can access the injector. Once the injector is out, a proper inspection is in order or… if the entire injector fuel rail can be lifted with all the injectors intact; crank the engine and see which injector is leaking. A bad injector will drip all the time while the good ones will have a quick spray and shut off.

Please share your thought..
« Last Edit: November 27, 2011, 07:11:29 pm by shopasian »

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Re: 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2011, 09:23:54 pm »
5.  Live with the rough idle until a newer vehicle can be obtained.

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Re: 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2011, 11:03:36 pm »
5.  Live with the rough idle until a newer vehicle can be obtained.

YA!

What's the expression again  ???

hmmmm.....  reaching the end of the road.

Advise your neighbour that his unit is in SURVIAL MODE.   He could send that van to Chrsyler's engineering head quarters and they wouldn't be able to solve it.

15 years service.  Nice.

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Re: 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 07:37:05 am »
On a 97 T & C?

Maybe the 8 track player is causing a misfire?  ;D

You'll spend more time and money trying to fix it than dropping an engine into it.

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Re: 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 11:16:38 am »
I didn't read anything about changing the plugs.  Have they tried that?
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Re: 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 11:29:58 am »
^Good call.  New plugs and wires are relatively cheap to replace.

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Re: 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 11:36:00 am »
Hmmmm, a one-time poster with a sig pointing to an automotive troubleshooting site is asking technical questions.
Methinks we have a spammer here.   That, or this is how he gets diagnosis' for his website queries.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2011, 11:45:14 am by blur911 »

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Re: 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2011, 11:40:52 am »
Motherblogger.  >:(

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Re: 97 Chrysler Town & Country Mileage Problem
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 10:47:06 pm »
If you can reach the suspected injector with a mechanics stethoscope you should be able to hear it click open regularly.  If it is misfiring randomly you should hear it miss a beat when it misfires, that is if the injector is the culprit.

Had a similar problem on my Audi, when it warmed up one injector would misfire about every 5th or 6th time.

Sorry to call you a spammer if you are not.  We get a lot of that here.