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"Made in USA" group slams Chrysler over ads
« on: October 13, 2011, 06:13:57 pm »
From today's Windsor Star: Some group is annoyed that the US carmaker is taking credit for Canadian made vehicles with the "Imported from Detroit" ad campaign.

http://www.windsorstar.com/life/fashion-beauty/Detroit+takes+credit+cars+made+Canada/5538427/story.html



An American consumer lobby group is taking Chrysler to task over advertisements depicting the Chrysler 300 as "Imported from Detroit." The luxury sedan is assembled in Brampton, Ont.

In a complaint filed to the United States Federal Trade Commission on Monday, the non-profit Made in USA Foundation argues that "Chrysler's false advertising is likely to cause substantial injury to consumers who seek to buy U.S.-made vehicles."

"I don't think Detroit's in Canada, the last time I checked," said Joel Joseph, chair of the California-based foundation.

Chrysler's "Imported from Detroit" campaign started in February with a two-minute Super Bowl ad featuring Detroit-born rapper Eminem driving through the city in a Chrysler 200, which is assembled in Detroit. "When it comes to luxury, it's as much about where it's from, as who it's for," says a deep-voiced narrator.

The campaign hit the Made in USA Foundation's radar in May when Chrysler extended the "Imported from Detroit" moniker to the Chrysler 300. Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and fashion designer John Varvatos are similarly depicted cruising gritty American streetscapes in the Ontario-made vehicles. Often, the cars are powered by Mexican-made engines. "The ads are clever, but they are false," writes Mr. Joseph in a prepared release.

The Chrysler Town and Country minivan, which is assembled in Windsor, Ont., has similarly appeared in ads sporting the Imported from Detroit slogan.

"'Imported from Detroit' is sort of a fanciful reference, it was never intended as a literal reference," said Chrysler spokesman Michael Palese. "It's more of an image and marketing type program."

The company has played with geography in its ads before. In a 1974 Chrysler ad campaign featuring actor Ricardo Montalban, the company boasted of upholstering its cars with "soft Corinthian leather." Rather than coming from the Greek municipality of Corinth, however, the leather came from New Jersey.

The Made in USA Foundation's petition comes just as U.S. President Barack Obama is touting a US$447-billion jobs plan replete with a "Buy American" clause that would prohibit the use of foreignmade manufactured goods in public works projects.

As U.S. auto commentators are quick to note, however, the nationality of a modern car is notoriously hard to trace. "American" cars like the Ford Fusion and the Buick Regal are made in Mexico and Germany, respectively. The Japanese-manufactured Toyota Camry, Sienna and Tundra meanwhile, are comprised of 80% U.S. parts.

On Monday, the Made in USA foundation also filed a complaint against Ford for a radio ad in which the Oakville, Ont.-built Ford Edge is referred to as an "American car."

Ironically, the Made in USA Foundation was created in 1989 by a partial grant from the Ford Motor Co.

Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/life/fashion-beauty/Detroit+takes+credit+cars+made+Canada/5538427/story.html#ixzz1ahbpiCiL
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 09:03:50 pm »
Yeah, heard this yesterday.  Ford is also being sued by the same group
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 09:06:12 pm »
Yeah, heard this yesterday.  Ford is also being sued by the same group

Really?  Why Ford?

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 09:27:27 pm »
Yeah, heard this yesterday.  Ford is also being sued by the same group

Really?  Why Ford?

I think it had to do with advertising the Edge, which is made in Canada (Oakville?)
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 09:59:46 pm »
Yeah, heard this yesterday.  Ford is also being sued by the same group

Really?  Why Ford?

Ford is for a radio ad claiming the Fusion as an 'American Car' (built in Mexico).  But your article posted earlier said it was due to a radio ad for the Edge (Oakville), so I am now not so sure.

http://www.autos.ca/general-news/made-in-the-usa-files-against-chrysler-and-ford

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The Made in the USA Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting American-made products, has filed two complaints with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC)against Chrysler and Ford for ads that it said are misleading.

The ads in question claim that certain vehicles were made in the United States when they were actually imported.

The complaint against Chrysler is for its television and print ads for the Chrysler 300, which has a tag line of Imported from Detroit. “The ads are clever, but they are false,” said Joel Joseph, general counsel to the Foundation. “The Chrysler 300 is made in Canada. The Chrysler 300 is assembled in Brampton, Ontario, Canada and often includes a Mexican-made engine. Last time I checked, Detroit is not in Canada. Chrysler is flat wrong to imply the Chrysler 300 is made in the United States and we have asked the FTC to order corrective advertising.”

The complaint against Ford is for a radio advertisement for the Fusion, which states that it is an American car. “The Fusion is made in Mexico, and is not an American car,” Joseph said. “The Ford ad misleads and confuses the public and we have asked the Federal Trade Commission to stop the ads.”

The Foundation has also alleged that Chrysler and Ford have stripped country-of-origin off these and other cars at auto shows in New York, Washington, Detroit and Los Angeles. “Chrysler and Ford are intentionally misleading consumers by implying all of their vehicles are made in the U.S.A., when they are not,” Joseph said.

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Re: "Made in USA" group slams Chrysler over ads
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2011, 10:02:24 pm »
I had mentioned it last year that I thought the ad campaign sucked because all the best Chryslers were built in Canada.  Guess these people are taking it up a notch... :rofl2:

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Re: "Made in USA" group slams Chrysler over ads
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2011, 10:30:00 pm »
Iron ore from Australia
Electricity powered by coal from South Africa
Design and IP from America (involving, I should perhaps mention, many engineers of Chinese, Indian, Russian descent)
Aluminum smelted in China
Assembly in Mexico
Marketing campaign from Canada
Gasoline refined in US from Saudi crude
Financing from a German bank
Shareholders from everywhere on the globe

People should realize that the question they're arguing about is rather complicated.
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Re: "Made in USA" group slams Chrysler over ads
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2011, 10:32:31 pm »
Iron ore from Australia
Electricity powered by coal from South Africa
Design and IP from America (involving, I should perhaps mention, many engineers of Chinese, Indian, Russian descent)
Aluminum smelted in China
Assembly in Mexico
Marketing campaign from Canada
Gasoline refined in US from Saudi crude
Financing from a German bank
Shareholders from everywhere on the globe

People should realize that the question they're arguing about is rather complicated.

Well if you have OCD and break it down as you did...then yea.  But specifically, they ad campaign makes it sound as though the cars are made (assembled might be more accurate) in Detroit.

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Re: "Made in USA" group slams Chrysler over ads
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2011, 10:34:50 pm »
Iron ore from Australia
Electricity powered by coal from South Africa
Design and IP from America (involving, I should perhaps mention, many engineers of Chinese, Indian, Russian descent)
Aluminum smelted in China
Assembly in Mexico
Marketing campaign from Canada
Gasoline refined in US from Saudi crude
Financing from a German bank
Shareholders from everywhere on the globe

People should realize that the question they're arguing about is rather complicated.

Well if you have OCD and break it down as you did...then yea.  But specifically, they ad campaign makes it sound as though the cars are made (assembled might be more accurate) in Detroit.

As you may suspect, I dislike ignorant answers to complex questions. ;)

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Re: "Made in USA" group slams Chrysler over ads
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 06:11:13 am »
Iron ore from Australia
Electricity powered by coal from South Africa
Design and IP from America (involving, I should perhaps mention, many engineers of Chinese, Indian, Russian descent)
Aluminum smelted in China
Assembly in Mexico
Marketing campaign from Canada
Gasoline refined in US from Saudi crude
Financing from a German bank
Shareholders from everywhere on the globe

People should realize that the question they're arguing about is rather complicated.

Interesting.  Probably part of the US problem.
How come:
It is cheaper to import iron ore from OZ rather than from Canada or even other parts of the USA
Coal the same...do they not have about 1 Tn tonnes of coal in Montana
Aluminium is cheaper to ship from China than from Alcan in BC ?  Weird.

if I was being cynical  I'd wonder if the environmental movement has effectively banned the US of NA resources ( as they are trying to do with the oil sands)

A bit less cynical and I'd say that Bunker C ( ship fuel) is far too cheap

Even less and I'd say that the USA is using up all the world's resources and preserving its own for the time when transportation fuel is REALLY expensive.


I don't give a rats arse about the ad campaign.
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Re: "Made in USA" group slams Chrysler over ads
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 07:15:42 am »
..I'm waiting for the Oakville Rappers to march on the Edge of Detroit 8miles more guys to EMi's crib............... ;D
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