Topic: odd behavior from a 2001 Honda Prelude SE

[rocko...]

just picked up a 2001 prelude w/ 198k and she handles nicely and runs great....  the previous owner was very maticulous on many aspects, however i purchased it as is after he mentioned the few issues and concerns he had with it and hadn't got to yet... (keep in mind the purchase price was a gift from the car gods)

sooo.. now that we got that out of the way!!  the problem that i have experienced a  half a dozen times over the last few days is....

during acceleration whether light or heavy foot in 2nd and 3rd... there is no response at all for approx 3 to 4 seconds and then the car will jump forward and back very similar to  that of taking off in the wrong gear (in 3rd instead of 1st or 5th instead of 3rd)

curious to know what the fix is....

the other repair required is the O2 sensor...  are these O2 sensors exactly the same no matter where they are purchased @ different prices or are they made by different companies w/ a difference in quality??  i was informed that there are two sensors on the prelude....

yer thoughts and advice are greatly appreciated.....

[johngenx]

Faulty O2 sensor often causes a stumble/hesitation...

[rocko...]

thanks.. was actually hoping it was a sensor!!  that was one of the items mentioned on the "to do" list...

just checked on autopartsway.ca and there are three sensors on the prelude...  i guess the best thing to do is bring it to a honda dealership or a mom and pop garage who can throw the computer on it to get an accurate account of what is needed....

cheers and thanks again...

[rocko...]

http://www.autopartsway.ca/PartDetails.cfm?W0133-1617941/ND/Honda/2001/Prelude/Base/2.2L_L4/allB/Transmission_and_Transaxle_-_Automatic/Sensors/Oxygen_Sensor/pagenum1/tabS

[rocko...]

Faulty O2 sensor often causes a stumble/hesitation...

thanx again for the tip.... apparently it is the O2 sensor!!  O2 sensor #1  (PU132) located on or near the manifold...

curious to know if there is a big difference in manufacturers??  there is Denso, Bosch, Delfi and much more...

are there a few brands you would recommend or are their a few would say i should stay away from???

thanks again...

[rrocket]

I like Denso, because they are plug and play.  DO NOT get one where you have to splice the wires...

Who was the OEM manufacturer for Honda??

[rocko...]

I like Denso, because they are plug and play.  DO NOT get one where you have to splice the wires...

Who was the OEM manufacturer for Honda??

w/o too much research... there is denso and bosch on the autopartsway.ca site!!  i just spoke with a mechanic and he suggested denso as well...   me mentioned bosch is popular w/ german made autos and denso is popular w/ honda and the like!!

so based on a li'l research and the posts above (thank you again for that) i will purchase a denso before the catalytic converter O2 sensor!!

love this site....

[HeliDriver]

I like Denso, because they are plug and play.  DO NOT get one where you have to splice the wires...

Who was the OEM manufacturer for Honda??

When I had to replace the sensors on my Civic, the OE sensors (plug and play) were nearly $300 each, while the generic ones (splice the wires yourself) were a little over $100.

I went with the cheaper ones, spliced them myself with no issues, and saved close to $400 (two sensors). For the extra 5 minutes work in splicing the wires, it seems like a no brainer to me.

[rrocket]

I like Denso, because they are plug and play.  DO NOT get one where you have to splice the wires...

Who was the OEM manufacturer for Honda??

When I had to replace the sensors on my Civic, the OE sensors (plug and play) were nearly $300 each, while the generic ones (splice the wires yourself) were a little over $100.

I went with the cheaper ones, spliced them myself with no issues, and saved close to $400 (two sensors). For the extra 5 minutes work in splicing the wires, it seems like a no brainer to me.

Sounds like you got rooked. You must have been buying from the stealership for the OE ones?? OE direct fit (plug and play) for his Prelude are a mere $41...ordered direct from Denso.  I can get them for ~$30 from my source.  And the most expensive Civic one I could find were $100...plug and play direct from Denso.

[rocko...]

hey rrocket.... sounds good to me!!  i googled denso and then figured i would just ask for the sight where you have delt before!!!  seems denso does more than just sensors.... ha

in my research i kept on seeing a few different options....  before or after the manifold, before or after the catalytic converter or front and rear!!  with so many choices i think i confused  the mechanic!!!!

oddly enough when i gave one website my vin it came back as non existant!! maybe just a glitch as the MTO had no problem getting it licensed...

so to sum of the days events.... i need a O2 sensor (sensor 1) located before the manifold and before the catalytic converter... @ those prices maybe i should just order both?

going to purchase off autopartsway.ca or autopartswarehouse.ca.... actually scratch that as i just remembered they are the dice'n splice kind for approx 55 bones each....  hmmm let's just call that a last resort!!!

the denso website would be nice.... cheers and thanks rrocket!!

[rrocket]

hey rrocket.... sounds good to me!!  i googled denso and then figured i would just ask for the sight where you have delt before!!!  seems denso does more than just sensors.... ha

in my research i kept on seeing a few different options....  before or after the manifold, before or after the catalytic converter or front and rear!!  with so many choices i think i confused  the mechanic!!!!

oddly enough when i gave one website my vin it came back as non existant!! maybe just a glitch as the MTO had no problem getting it licensed...

so to sum of the days events.... i need a O2 sensor (sensor 1) located before the manifold and before the catalytic converter... @ those prices maybe i should just order both?

going to purchase off autopartsway.ca or autopartswarehouse.ca.... actually scratch that as i just remembered they are the dice'n splice kind for approx 55 bones each....  hmmm let's just call that a last resort!!!

the denso website would be nice.... cheers and thanks rrocket!!

http://www.densoproducts.com

The one for the front is Denso # 234-4621
             
The one for the rear is Denso # 234-4092

Just take either of those numbers, go to E-bay and type "Denso 234-4621" and you'll find some good prices.  I think I even saw one for about $~30.  If not, just buy from Denso direct. 

Let me know if you have more questions....

[rocko...]

greatly appreciated my friend....

[johngenx]

NEVER NEVER EVER buy an O2 sensor from a dealer!!!!  They charge 3-10X what you can buy them for jobber, and no mods needed.

Subaru dealer wanted $500 for a front O2 sensor.  Are you f-kin' kidding me?  Try $100 including labour for my indie to install as I'm lazy.

[rocko...]

http://www.densoproducts.com/resultsSearch.asp

 ?? i just don't get it... why so cheap ??  34.98 yet a honda stealership as you put it wants to charge almost 3 hundy....

 

[rocko...]

i will take a peak on ebay... however i may as well order right from the co. itself!!  purchasing denso parts from denso just makes sense!!

thank you all for your comments....

inbox me your work address and i will show up one day with a tim horton's coffee!!!! ha...

[rrocket]

http://www.densoproducts.com/resultsSearch.asp

 ?? i just don't get it... why so cheap ??  34.98 yet a honda stealership as you put it wants to charge almost 3 hundy....

 

They don't call it a stealership for nothing!!

Example??  I recently put in (2) O2 sensors in my 1990 LS400.  Dealer wanted $410 CDN EACH!!    US dealer wanted $125 each.  I paid $43.00 each.  Genuine Denso.

[johngenx]

34.98 yet a honda stealership as you put it wants to charge almost 3 hundy....

^^^

[rocko...]

i'm even happy to pay the 24 bones in shipping....  i will avoid ebay cuz they all range in the 60 bux range w/ or w/o shipping....  ie 57 w/ free shipping or 37 w/ 21 bux shipping!!!  and who knows the postal service may nail me for a border fee... unless of course it is w/i ca na da...

just bout ready to hit send on the denso website....

[HeliDriver]

When I had to replace the sensors on my Civic, the OE sensors (plug and play) were nearly $300 each, while the generic ones (splice the wires yourself) were a little over $100.

I went with the cheaper ones, spliced them myself with no issues, and saved close to $400 (two sensors). For the extra 5 minutes work in splicing the wires, it seems like a no brainer to me.

Sounds like you got rooked. You must have been buying from the stealership for the OE ones?? OE direct fit (plug and play) for his Prelude are a mere $41...ordered direct from Denso.  I can get them for ~$30 from my source.  And the most expensive Civic one I could find were $100...plug and play direct from Denso.

No, not from the dealer. I shopped around on the net and ended up buying from clubplug.net. I got NGKs, IIRC.

Anyway, my point was simply that splicing a couple of wires is not a big deal. Although I agree it's probably not worth it if the savings are only ten or twenty bucks.

[rocko...]

order complete @ denso, however the receipt is in sparkplug.com...  and i always love seeing this at the bottom of the receipt!!

Please Note: Freight charges do not include any brokerage fees, duties or taxes that may be charged by your customs before you can receive your parts.

ah well... my glass is half full and i actually ordered front and rear!! 

cheers...