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Taking a couple of extra days off to make an extra long weekend to meet up with some great friends in Lake Placid. Of course I'm bringing the bike to ride around the IM loop and a couple of us has decided to do the climb up Mount Whiteface.

Whiteface
Average: 8.5 %
Length: 12.6 km (7.8 miles)
Height start: 317 m
Height top: 1396 m
Gradient: 1079 m (3540 feet)
Maximum: 15 %

Alpe d'Huez
Average: 8.1 %
Length: 13.2 km (8.2 miles)
Height start: 744 m
Height top: 1815 m
Gradient: 1071 m (3513 feet)
Maximum: 10.6 %

The biggest difference between the two climbs is that on Whiteface you don't get all those lovely switchback so you can either look up or back down at your friends stupid enough to try the same thing.

Route > http://ridewithgps.com/routes/423165

The funny thing is I'm more scared of the ride back down than trying climb it.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2011, 01:31:38 pm by quadzilla »
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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 11:13:27 am »
What's your gearing?
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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 11:19:23 am »
Have fun on Whiteface Mountain.   ;D  I've been to Lake Placid numerous times but I have yet drive up Whiteface.







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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 12:29:36 pm »
What's your gearing?
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Mine is 34-25 which I should be fine with. My buddy is on a 39-25 but he is ten years younger than me. I would really like to get as close to the 1 hour time as I can which I think is possible since I can do the climb from Keen back towards Placid (the big downhill in the IM) in 40 minutes which is the same length, just not as steep.


Have fun on Whiteface Mountain.   ;D  I've been to Lake Placid numerous times but I have yet drive up Whiteface.

Same here as we tend to stay away from the tourist spots. Nothing like getting to the top to have some fat tourist filling their face on chip and a soda asking you if it was hard to bike up that.

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 12:54:54 pm »
..I'm doing  D'alpe de WHEEZY this week  gettin my bike out and heading up HILL to the feeding station aka Beer store..... ;)

  Nice ta see an OZ win the Tour de Farce ;).....and two brothers coming in deux et trois.......that is the hardest sporting event bar none......3 cheers fer the NUTS that grab the bars and go back each year....salut.... :cheers: :banana: :thumbup: :bow2: :winner:
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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 01:49:26 pm »
Nice ta see an OZ win the Tour de Farce ;).....and two brothers coming in deux et trois.......that is the hardest sporting event bar none......3 cheers fer the NUTS that grab the bars and go back each year....salut.... :cheers: :banana: :thumbup: :bow2: :winner:

The best part is that Evans rides the same bike I do....well the same brand that is. His is two models up from mine.

We watched the entire tour and the best parts were through the Alps.....truly amazing.

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 05:23:06 pm »
 8) ::) those would be TWO SUPER MODELS Up n'est ce pas...........s a Diablo in yer dreams Huez'y... ;) ;D :stick:  pedal huron canoe.......I hear yer Vladimir Carpets! when the mood stikes.... :rofl2:

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 06:40:57 pm »
That's awesome, Quad!  I did 47K on Saturday (Niagara Falls to Niagara-on-the-Lake and back), the difference being that for the climb back up the escarpment, we started at sea level and ended up at 250 feet 17K later.  Not quite the same gradient.   ;D  But still fun.

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 06:49:30 pm »
Looks very similar to the passes in the alps. Your friend in 39-25 will have fun in the 15% section! Hopefully it's not too long. Let us know how it goes. And remember, it's better to start slow and finish fast than the opposite; so keep something in reserve for the end.

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2011, 10:16:23 pm »
That's awesome, Quad!  I did 47K on Saturday (Niagara Falls to Niagara-on-the-Lake and back), the difference being that for the climb back up the escarpment, we started at sea level and ended up at 250 feet 17K later.  Not quite the same gradient.   ;D  But still fun.

Looks like you are taking on cycling just like you did hiking. :thumbup:

Also looks like you have already worked you way up to half a Cdn Century, very nice. Hopefully next year we will see you at the Cambridge, Norfolk and Collingwood events. Which reminds me, I should write something up about the Norfolk event, short version, it was pretty good even though it was crazy hot!

Looks very similar to the passes in the alps. Your friend in 39-25 will have fun in the 15% section! Hopefully it's not too long. Let us know how it goes. And remember, it's better to start slow and finish fast than the opposite; so keep something in reserve for the end.

I told my buddy to switch over to a compact or even a 12-27 cassette but he is waiting until he gets a new bike so he will have to tough it out. He can make it up Snake Hill which is a nasty but short climb that I can spin my tires if the road is damp. Every time I do it I swear I'm going to rip my handlebars right off the bike.  :o

Thanks for the reminder to start slow since I know I will be pumped (or wondering why I'm doing it) and might forget and start too fast. I have an old small digital camera that fits in my jersey pocket that I'll take to snap some picks on the way up.

If I can get up early one morning, this is another ride I am going to try and get in.

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/501163

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 08:47:28 pm »
Looks very similar to the passes in the alps.

Not even close. You'll never find a straight that long in the Alps.  ;)
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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 10:47:10 pm »
Good luck Quad
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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2011, 08:00:06 am »
That's awesome, Quad!  I did 47K on Saturday (Niagara Falls to Niagara-on-the-Lake and back), the difference being that for the climb back up the escarpment, we started at sea level and ended up at 250 feet 17K later.  Not quite the same gradient.   ;D  But still fun.
That would nice ride
Just a note Lake Ontario is 76.5 meters above sea level
and Lake Erie is is 174 m above sea level

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2011, 08:45:39 am »
My parents went to Lake Placid for their honeymoon back in October '66.  They took my dad's 1958 T-bird up Whiteface Mountain.  On the way down, toward the bottom but above Santa's Workshop, the brakes failed (due to heat?).  My dad found a somewhat level clearing (near Santa's Workshop?) and the car came to rest a distance from the road.  My parents sat there in shock and waited for someone to come check on them.  After several minutes passed and nobody arrived, my dad started the car and gingerly made his way back to Lake Placid.  :rofl:

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2011, 11:45:15 am »
Looks very similar to the passes in the alps.

Not even close. You'll never find a straight that long in the Alps.  ;)

At 15 kph climbing the curves don't mean much to a cyclist. On the way down however it makes a huge difference!

Loved my trip in the Dolomites btw, I can see why you love it over there. May go with Edelweiss next time.

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2011, 10:58:38 am »
Looks very similar to the passes in the alps.

Not even close. You'll never find a straight that long in the Alps.  ;)

I know you are the 'Alps' expert but I when I was watching the TDF they seem to descend on many long and straight roads on the mountain....more so in the valleys. Actually, the view from the motorcycle camera I could see much further than any part while I was on Whiteface. Strange. :think:


PS. Trip report still to come.

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2011, 01:30:35 pm »
The climb up Whiteface Mountain.


Taken with 10 year old digital camera by setting the timer and then riding in front hoping to be in the frame.

Since the beginning of our day was very busy we got a late start for heading down to the mountain. We decided that we would just drive to the start instead of riding down and that way we could scout out things to make sure we could actually get in after the gates were closed (I read that you should go after 5pm when its closed).

While driving up the first 3 miles of road from where you turn off the hwy up to the gate (where the real climb starts) we noticed how crappy, cracked and possibly dangerous it could be on the return descent. Not a good start.

Pull up to the main gate and there is nobody around and notice how easy it is to go under the gate which is basically there to stop cars. The road from this point looks much better so we make a decision to start here and skip the first 3 miles of crappy road conditions.

The weather was near perfect at 6pm, around 25C, low humidity but still some stiff winds blowing which will be quite chilly once above tree line. Wished my buddy luck, see you at the top and then started to get into my grove.


The start of the climb from the gates.

The grade to start was felt steep but I could settle into a 6-7mph pace. I would switch between sitting and standing to keep my legs stretched but kept my pace so that I was never getting close to going into the red zone.


My view for most of the ride.

The grade was quite consistent for the entire climb except for a couple of spots where it actually got steeper for a short distance and then one spot after a switchback where it actually was less steep and felt flat as I nearly tripled my speed for a short period of time.

The wind was only a factor for a short distance near the top when you had to ride into it and chilly it was, otherwise it was a nice relief and helped at trying to keep me cool. Considering how hot it wasn’t my shirt was still fully soaked despite riding with it fully unzipped and I drank 1 bottle of water. Doing this during the day with the high sun would be murder.



Looking back at the road just before the top.

Once at the top I checked my time….

46:39 (min:sec)

I find a spot out of the wind against the warm rock wall to try and stay warm while I wait for my buddy to summit. Take the mandatory picture and then start descending.


Proof or it isn't real.

At first I thought I broke my bike as I had a small wobble but then realized it was me getting cold and I was shivering. I went slow on the descent with lots of braking as it was quite easy to go from 10mph to 40mph in seconds. If you don’t count the couple of stops for pictures on the way down it took approx 10 minutes to get back.

Looking back, I pretty sure I could crack the 45 minute mark. Now that I have a better understanding of the grade and how it felt I should be able to turn up the pace in a few sections. I also took two water bottles with me since I didn’t know how hot or thirsty I would be but next time I would bring only one for less weight as I wouldn’t need it.

Really happy I rode it. Maybe I’ll go back next year to try and beat my time.

I also did lots of cycling and managed to get in around 275 miles (443 km) with 18,400 feet (5608m) of climbing over the 3.5 days.


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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend. Trip report added.
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2011, 01:36:33 pm »
Awesome!

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend. Trip report added.
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2011, 09:57:21 pm »
Great! Good ride!

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Re: Going to climb Alpe d'Huez this weekend...well sort of.
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2011, 10:21:27 am »
Great adventure and thanks for sharing it with us!