Topic: 2012 Nissan Rogue

[Ontariodriver]

No good mention the specs. Just a going to remain pretty much the same as before.

http://www.nissan-insight.com/2010/07/08/2012-nissan-rogue-pictures/

[Ice]

I'm willing to guess with a 95% probability that this is a photoshop (or a photochop? ).

The refresh was already done for the current model year. Revised grille, a few different options. Year or two before a full redesign if I'm not mistaken.

[Ontariodriver]

I'm willing to guess with a 95% probability that this is a photoshop (or a photochop? ).

LOL.  I tend to agree. But interesting to look back at this topic as the vehicle comes to fruition.

[stevek]

Test drove a 2012 AWD Rogue the other day, for very preliminary looking. Really liked it. Nissan seems to have very good awd, same as Subaru's the salesman said. Lots of safety features. He also said, with Nissan you get Japanese quality like with the big 2, but at a lower price. I also looked at the Juke in the showroom, didn't drive it but seemed cool. Kind of a funky sports car type vehicle for one person or a couple.

Anyone have thoughts on comparing the Rogue to Forester, CRV, Rav4, et al?

[Ice]

Test drove a 2012 AWD Rogue the other day, for very preliminary looking. Really liked it. Nissan seems to have very good awd, same as Subaru's the salesman said. Lots of safety features. He also said, with Nissan you get Japanese quality like with the big 2, but at a lower price. I also looked at the Juke in the showroom, didn't drive it but seemed cool. Kind of a funky sports car type vehicle for one person or a couple.

Anyone have thoughts on comparing the Rogue to Forester, CRV, Rav4, et al?

When my parents were looking at this type of vehicle I sat in a whole bunch of them.

The Forrester is good but at the same the antiquated 4 speed auto and underwhelming fuel economy were downsides. Good visibility due to non swoopy windows at the back which was appealing. The interior was cheap but solid.

The RAV4 was extremely capable and competent and the V6 model had very little fuel economy penalty for a whole lot of extra power.My (and my parents) biggest issues with the RAV4 was that it was well beyond it's best before date and the interior was a little antiquated. Even my Corolla is more stylish on the inside. Both my parents also felt claustrophobic due to the proximity of the A pillar to your head. Others may never notice this.

They settled on a CR-V. It was comfortable, drove very well, and despite some swoopy styling it had a good feel on the interior and didn't feel claustrophobic in any way. We also liked how the back seats appeared slightly higher sitting than the front so you can still see out front fairly well.

My problem with the Rogue is that the interior feels on the cheaper side of things. The drive train may have Japanese quality but the interior was underwhelming to me. I had similar issues with the Tucson although it was a bit better and felt more sturdy to the touch than the Rogue. I haven't been inside the refreshed model so maybe they tightened things up a bit.

Because the Qashqai has been such a success in Europe and it's almost the same size as the North American Rogue... I wonder if the two will become the same vehicle when they go to redesign. Hopefully not with the name....Qashqai is just aweful

[PJungnitsch]

My gf went through all the smaller SUV's this fall and settled on a 2012 Kia Sportage. Have got to say, Kia has come a long way, it is really nicely styled, both inside and out. All kinds of clever and well-thought out ideas.

Will it hold up? Who knows, but no problems so far.

The only things I noticed against it is seems to ride a little on the stiffer side, and not a lot of cargo room behind the rear seats.

[Snowman]

I'm willing to guess with a 95% probability that this is a photoshop (or a photochop? ).

The refresh was already done for the current model year. Revised grille, a few different options. Year or two before a full redesign if I'm not mistaken.

And not a good one at that

[stevek]

Found this post on a Kia forum:

Why we bought the Rogue
After test driving everything from CRV, Rav4, Jeep Compass, CX-7, Sportage, Tucson, Equinox and the Rogue, my opinion is that Nissan has the best value for your dollar. This is from accessories (all the trimmings), ride comfort, noise insulation, probably the one of the best CVT systems in cars to date, safety and most importantly reliability.

I spent countless hours prowling the web for all the issues, faults and complaints to each of these manufacturers. Over the years, number of problems I've found, Nissan is up there with the CRV and Rav4 in lack thereof.


Why we DIDN'T buy the Sportage

Don't get me wrong, the Sportage is amazing to look at, I almost left with one after first visit just by it's looks alone, and it provides some great features for the cost, but you can't help the feeling that the only value this suv has IS those extra features. EVERY dealership we went to, whether it was the salesman in question or another employee listening in, anytime we said we were looking into the Sportage, they just chuckled. I asked curiously why they didn't approve. Each one of them said that they used to work in a shop and they were filled with Kia's more regularly than any other manufacturer, that Kia's fall apart the second you drive them off the lot.
After sparking my interest to learn more, I was horrified. I spent 2 full nights researching Kia and the Sportage in general. I was disgusted by the sheer amount of problems people have had, and I'm not talking 10 year old cars here, i'm talking even brand new 2010, 2011. Everything from their Sorento to their smaller cars. Electronics going haywire, Numerous airbag deploys (from different victims) when they weren't in a crash and no deploys with those that were causing major injuries. Cars literally dying after 300 miles off the lot, leakage, AC problems, transmission, engines going out... the list goes on and on and on... Surely this is just people who HAVE problems that are bitching, fair enough, but when you really dig deep, and even find numerous youtube videos of people's new Kia's with 2000 miles on them failing to change gear, check engine lights going on and off randomly, stereo system lights not turning off when the car is turned off, AC blowing cold and hot, cold and hot I can't help but think to myself, how did they get to this point..... It's like Ford but worse. On top of those issues, the ride is very firm, steering feels like you're driving 5 tons and requires quite a bit of effort to move the wheels, CRAP reliability scores from different sources and just the general all round knowledge that Kia has customer service and provide their cars with 100k mile warranties because they know that if they didn't, people wouldn't be able to drive them.

To those that have Sportages and have had NO problems, then I really wish you the best of luck, but my family's lives are more important than to mess around with that type of crap.


Well, what should I get?

These are just my opinions, but I've spent enough time researching and test driving these vehicles that I've categorized them like so.

Rav4 - If you want a car to depend on for life, go for it, but don't expect it to have any features for the cost that others offer
CRV - Not as smooth or as quiet as the Toyota, but still up there in reliability
Rogue - Great all around marks, smooth and quiet ride, premium features for similar cost of basic featured CRV's and Rav4
CX-7 - Not bad, not great. An inbetweeny model. Great interior quality, rides ok, can get expensive after putting in all your gadgets.
Sportage - VERY slick styling and definitely a head turner. Premium features without the premium cost, hard suspension and stiff steering. Expect the car to fall apart regularly.
Compass - Not as bad as the Sportage in reliability but don't expect Jeep to last long without your first issues popping up. Rides smooth, loud engine noises though.
Equinox - For an American car, great interior, not as smooth as I'd like, bigger trunk space than others, reliability expectancy is mid range, pricer than others.
Tucson - Too small for my liking and a mediocre ride. Price range is in the middle, ok features, you can definitely expect to rely on the Hyundai over the Kia with confidence.

[Ice]

A couple of weeks back Nissan teased the "hi-cross" concept for the Geneva Auto Show. See the Autoblog post here: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/27/nissan-teases-hi-cross-concept-before-geneva-debut-w-video/

It may be the new Qa..Qash...Q whatever the heck its called in Europe but some think that Nissan may pull a Ford and produce Rogue as the same vehicle in both places under the two different names.

[jww]

I'm still dealing with the disappointment in the discontinuation of the X-Trail.

[articsteve]

Anyone have thoughts on comparing the Rogue to Forester, CRV, Rav4, et al

I don't even think it's close to the other 3 listed particularily if your looking very long term.  In 4 banger trim, my preference would be the new CRV in 2 wheel drive.

[Ice]

The last time I looked (for my parents) the Rogue was cheaper but it also felt cheaper...and it's smaller. My parents went with the CR-V. Partly due to a good dealership experience (their second Honda) but also because the CR-V was equivalent or a little bit better in most ways than the competition. I should say that it was a matter of what they were looking for.

The Rogue is popular around here and I see them quite often. I'm curious to see what Nissan might do with a second gen version. Apparently the concept they showed off today in Geneva is larger than the Rogue and almost Murano sized.

[Mike]

Anyone have thoughts on comparing the Rogue to Forester, CRV, Rav4, et al

I don't even think it's close to the other 3 listed particularily if your looking very long term.  In 4 banger trim, my preference would be the new CRV in 2 wheel drive.

CX-5 vs. RAV4 vs. CR-V vs. Rogue vs. Tucson with a sidebar on the Forester comparison test taking place this week.  Review should be up in 1.5 weeks.

[articsteve]

CX-5 vs. RAV4 vs. CR-V vs. Rogue vs. Tucson with a sidebar on the Forester comparison test taking place this week.  Review should be up in 1.5 weeks.

Hope they are all FWD in basic trim so ppl can get a feeling of product v. value which is what mostly boils down on the dealership floor.

[Mike]

CX-5 vs. RAV4 vs. CR-V vs. Rogue vs. Tucson with a sidebar on the Forester comparison test taking place this week.  Review should be up in 1.5 weeks.

Hope they are all FWD in basic trim so ppl can get a feeling of product v. value which is what mostly boils down on the dealership floor.

lol, nope.  All fully loaded except the CX-5

[Jaeger]

Anyone have thoughts on comparing the Rogue to Forester, CRV, Rav4, et al

I don't even think it's close to the other 3 listed particularily if your looking very long term.  In 4 banger trim, my preference would be the new CRV in 2 wheel drive.

CX-5 vs. RAV4 vs. CR-V vs. Rogue vs. Tucson with a sidebar on the Forester comparison test taking place this week.  Review should be up in 1.5 weeks.

Excellent - I'm looking forward to that.  I'm guessing CX-5 and CR-V fight for top spot, followed by Rav4, Tucson and Rogue.

Jaeger

[DomD]

CX-5 vs. RAV4 vs. CR-V vs. Rogue vs. Tucson with a sidebar on the Forester comparison test taking place this week.  Review should be up in 1.5 weeks.

Hope they are all FWD in basic trim so ppl can get a feeling of product v. value which is what mostly boils down on the dealership floor.

lol, nope.  All fully loaded except the CX-5

That's too bad, I think a base trim comparison would have been more interesting to me.

[stevek]

Where will this review be posted?

[Mike]

Where will this review be posted?

The main autos.ca homepage.  We will keep it on there for a while after it is completed

[sailor723]

CX-5 vs. RAV4 vs. CR-V vs. Rogue vs. Tucson with a sidebar on the Forester comparison test taking place this week.  Review should be up in 1.5 weeks.

Hope they are all FWD in basic trim so ppl can get a feeling of product v. value which is what mostly boils down on the dealership floor.

Funny how different people have different priorities. It would never even cross my mind to consider one of these in FWD .