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2012 Toyota Rav 4
« on: March 31, 2011, 08:31:52 pm »
I wonder if this is correct and this is what it will really look like. Ooh let the speculation begin.




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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 08:40:47 pm »
I don't see anything...
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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 08:45:47 pm »
Those aren't new... I saw them a couple of years ago when they thought the 2011 RAV4 was going to be an all new. I believe it's something that an artist cooked up somewhere rather than something Toyota is working on.

Mr Toyoda says he wants Toyota cars to be reliable and also have a sense of style about them (he wants to do away with the bland image if possible) so they may be busy coming up with a new design language. We'll see if that's the case. The new Yaris isn't promising but we'll see.

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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 08:57:41 pm »
Well they'd better come up with more than just re-shaped sheet metal. I heard rumors that 2012 Sorento will have cooled seats, LED headlights and a new 200hp 4cyl engine. You snooze you lose in this market.
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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 09:15:45 pm »
Nah, I think Toyota is still safe for few more years. Whatever they'll come up with, it will still sell good enough.
The only thing I wonder about is if they'll do with the rear door or not.

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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2011, 10:07:42 pm »
The door has been deleted.  Replacement is zippered transparent plastic.
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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2011, 06:23:47 am »
I don't see anything...

Some kind of link blocking. Here Ya Go...






Those aren't new... I saw them a couple of years ago when they thought the 2011 RAV4

I thought that too....Ooh I see oh never mind then moving on nothing to see here.... ::)

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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 06:42:24 am »
The door has been deleted.  Replacement is zippered transparent plastic.

A hatch would be OK.  ;D

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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 06:07:47 pm »
Well they'd better come up with more than just re-shaped sheet metal. I heard rumors that 2012 Sorento will have cooled seats, LED headlights and a new 200hp 4cyl engine. You snooze you lose in this market.
Rumor has it that Toyota is busy developing some next gen engines to compete. DI and Turbo charging are on the list of technologies they are looking into. That was a while ago that such a mention was made but one could hope for their sake that they would be bringing these new engines to the next-gen Camry and RAV4.

They also have some pretty good technology with Valvematic if I'm not mistaken but it's only found in Europe right now.

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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2011, 02:11:49 am »
Those pictures, real or not, are just sheetmetal revisions of the existing European model.  It's a bit shorter than the North American version, and the difference is apparent in the rear quarter window shape.

Doing away with the swing tailgate means doing away with the outside spare.  Which requires either runflat tires, compact spare, or a complete revision of the vehicle to locate the spare under the back end.

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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2011, 02:46:38 pm »
Those pictures, real or not, are just sheetmetal revisions of the existing European model.  It's a bit shorter than the North American version, and the difference is apparent in the rear quarter window shape.

Doing away with the swing tailgate means doing away with the outside spare.  Which requires either runflat tires, compact spare, or a complete revision of the vehicle to locate the spare under the back end.

My 2004 VW Golf had a full size spare in the trunk... I'm pretty sure Toyota can manage to put a full-size spare in its RAV4.

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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2011, 09:05:55 pm »
Those pictures, real or not, are just sheetmetal revisions of the existing European model.  It's a bit shorter than the North American version, and the difference is apparent in the rear quarter window shape.

Doing away with the swing tailgate means doing away with the outside spare.  Which requires either runflat tires, compact spare, or a complete revision of the vehicle to locate the spare under the back end.

My 2004 VW Golf had a full size spare in the trunk... I'm pretty sure Toyota can manage to put a full-size spare in its RAV4.
True, but without some major engineering it will cost a lot of cargo space.  I bet there's just not room underneath, so it would have to go inside.  The LE version of the first generation Pathfinder had the spare mounted inside instead of on a carrier on the outside, and it took up a lot of room.

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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2011, 07:20:24 pm »
The CR-V did away with the tire on the back and there's plenty of storage space in there. My parents bought one not too long ago... the RAV4 was rejected for a number of reasons in the end but the tire/door combination was a consideration.

Whatever Toyota decides to do they better get a new RAV4 out soon. I know they have a huge product offensive coming but it's about time.

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Re: 2012 Toyota Rav 4
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2011, 11:11:48 pm »
True, but the vehicle has to be engineered from the start for the spare tire location.  Unless you want to use runflat tires, a compact spare like the Tucson, or sacrifice cargo space like the original Pathfinder LE and the Jeep Cherokee.

For instance, the first generation Xterra is the same basic vehicle as the first generation Pathfinder.  To move the spare from the outside, as on the Pathfinder, to underneath, as on the Xterra, required moving the gas tank so the spare could go where the tank was behind the rear axle.  The gas tank then went in front of the rear axle, where the Pathfinder had some room, but not enough. So they raised the back seat. This required raising the roof, which gave the Xterra its distinctive roofline.  This illustrates the extent of changes required to move the spare tire.

I strongly believe that moving the current Rav4's spare from the tailgate to under the back end would require even more modifications, since it's a unibody rather than a body-on-frame.  Putting it inside probably would eliminate the 3rd row seat option.  I doubt there's room at all underneath on the shorter Rav4 sold in the rest of the world.  Probably the Rav4 won't move the spare off the tailgate until an entire new design.  Same with the Grand Vitara.  Both have the main mufflers where a spare would have to go.