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2014 Porsche Cajun
« on: March 19, 2011, 05:23:26 pm »
Yes it's familiar because it's a re-badge Audi Q5. The Porsche is coming in 2014

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/29/porsche-approves-cajun-mini-suv-due-to-arrive-in-2014/




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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 05:25:35 pm »
Looks great!!
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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2011, 05:32:04 pm »
Now this actually is a travesty.
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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 05:41:07 pm »
Now this actually is a travesty.

Like how. People said that about Ooh let me see the 4 door Porsche and the other SUV LOL.

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 09:06:10 pm »
Now this actually is a travesty.

But I'll bet they sell a lot of those 'travestys'. Nice refreshing styling while retaining that Porsche look.

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 09:14:50 pm »
Now this actually is a travesty.

Like how. People said that about Ooh let me see the 4 door Porsche and the other SUV LOL.

Yes, but I didn't.

Now this actually is a travesty.

But I'll bet they sell a lot of those 'travestys'. Nice refreshing styling while retaining that Porsche look.

Of course it will sell. And it will generate massive profit margins. But if you had a 911 C4S and some guy in a "Cajun" pulled up next to you at the light wouldn't you have to frown a bit too? :)

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2011, 10:16:27 pm »
Of course it will sell. And it will generate massive profit margins. But if you had a 911 C4S and some guy in a "Cajun" pulled up next to you at the light wouldn't you have to frown a bit too? :)

Wouldn't bother me one bit. I don't buy products for other people, I buy them because I want them and nothing else.

Lots of people buy things just because of the name. Who gives a :censor:.

A lot of companies have more than one line of product that helps support their other product line(s).
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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 01:00:10 am »
And the Q7 based 7 seater Porsche SUV will be Casen (Cayenne Senior)?  :rofl:

So the Q3 based Porsche SUV will be Cajunjun (Cayenne Junior Junior)?  :rofl2:
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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2011, 08:05:52 am »
Now this actually is a travesty.

Like how. People said that about Ooh let me see the 4 door Porsche and the other SUV LOL.

Yes, but I didn't.

Now this actually is a travesty.

But I'll bet they sell a lot of those 'travestys'. Nice refreshing styling while retaining that Porsche look.

Of course it will sell. And it will generate massive profit margins. But if you had a 911 C4S and some guy in a "Cajun" pulled up next to you at the light wouldn't you have to frown a bit too? :)

No, why would I be an upset 911 owner if a Cajun pulled up beside me?? ???  Wouldn't make one bit of difference to me at all.  I'd probably give the person a thumbs up.   :)

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2011, 08:13:24 am »
...another Raging Cajun................NOT quit as ugly as the car/SUCKSUV................Tis that Juke's Ugly Sister I see before mine eyes..............well "dig" them out dear Portfolio of WURSTFALIA ;)....fee fi fo fum...........
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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 08:44:35 am »
I would point and laugh. ;D
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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2011, 09:21:27 am »
Bad move IMHO. Watering down the brand too much. There should not be a Porsche for every purse.
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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2011, 09:41:31 am »
Bad move IMHO. Watering down the brand too much. There should not be a Porsche for every purse.
Maybe there should be a Porsche for every purse. BUT they should all be 2 seat sports cars or at worst 2+ 2 grand tourers.

Miata sized and priced
Boxster/Cayman
Boxster/Cayman S
911  2wd non -turbo
911 awd non-turbo
911 awd turbo
Panamera
2+2 Veyron or McLaren equivalent. All out supercar with kiddy seats or room for two toothbrushes

That would do it  and they are already close.                         imho

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2011, 01:52:57 am »
Bad move IMHO. Watering down the brand too much. There should not be a Porsche for every purse.
Maybe there should be a Porsche for every purse. BUT they should all be 2 seat sports cars or at worst 2+ 2 grand tourers.

Miata sized and priced
Boxster/Cayman
Boxster/Cayman S
911  2wd non -turbo
911 awd non-turbo
911 awd turbo
Panamera
2+2 Veyron or McLaren equivalent. All out supercar with kiddy seats or room for two toothbrushes

That would do it  and they are already close.                         imho



+1. And that last one is coming, the 918.  ;D

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2011, 05:43:02 am »
I think the "Miata sized and priced" will be the last one.    That one is quite difficult to do, literally 1/2 the price of a Boxster....but... if they have one of the variants of VW's 2.0T available and make a something like a MR2 with that little 4 cyl in the middle or a mid engined Sirocco.

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2011, 09:19:55 am »
Bad move IMHO. Watering down the brand too much. There should not be a Porsche for every purse.

I'll use this one post to agree with Erik and TPL.

It's so easy to point to increased short-term profits and say "Aha...see...it was the right move".  Making a decision for the long term takes way more stones.

To me, the risk can't even be justified on those shorter-term profits given the relationship with the VW group.
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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2011, 11:55:35 am »
Bad move IMHO. Watering down the brand too much. There should not be a Porsche for every purse.

I'll use this one post to agree with Erik and TPL.

It's so easy to point to increased short-term profits and say "Aha...see...it was the right move".  Making a decision for the long term takes way more stones.

To me, the risk can't even be justified on those shorter-term profits given the relationship with the VW group.

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Nice little write up about the meaning of Aspirational Brands from Wikipedia. SOmething I hope the folks at VW/Porsche don't forget (and something Ulrich Bez will likely learn the hard way soon enough.)

In consumer marketing, an aspirational brand (or product) means a large segment of its exposure audience wishes to own it, but for economical reasons cannot. An aspirational product implies certain positive characteristics to the user, but the supply appears limited due to limited production quantities.
An important characteristic of an aspirational product is that the part of its exposure audience that is at present economically unable to purchase it, thinks of itself as having a fair probability of at a certain point in the future being able to do so. This part of the exposure audience is referred to as the aspirational audience, whereas the part of the exposure audience that already can afford the product is called the consumption audience. Consumption audience and aspirational audience together form the aspirational product's target audience, which typically represents 30%-60% of the exposure audience
Weak aspirational brands have target audiences that are almost as large as their exposure audiences (e.g. mp3 player brands), and are therefore slowly becoming commodity brands, e.g. brands with consumption audiences that coincide with the exposure audience (and therefore, brands without an aspiring audience).
As a general rule, an aspirational brand and its products can command a price premium in the marketplace over a commodity brand. This ability can to a large extent be explained by the consumer's need for invidious consumption for which he is willing to pay a premium. The smaller the size of the product's target audience compared to the exposure audience, the more the product satisfies this need, and the higher the premium that such a consumer is prepared to pay.
The larger the ratio of aspirational to consumption consumers in the target audience, the higher the brand's premium, e.g. Maybach cars. To keep the premium level of a brand high, the consumption portion of the audience should not exceed 30% of the aspirational audience.


Don't know that I would have chosen Maybach as my example.... :)

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2011, 12:05:26 pm »
 8) ::) seems like a long winded way to say" I'd like one in the future" whether or not it comes to fruition,no immediate sales there :P...and CONSUMPTION AUDIENCE..... :rofl: :rofl2:  D'oh BUYERS....had to be written by a Social "Scientist "...who wouldn't know his arsehole from a bunsen burner......

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2011, 12:13:00 pm »
Bad move IMHO. Watering down the brand too much. There should not be a Porsche for every purse.

I'll use this one post to agree with Erik and TPL.

It's so easy to point to increased short-term profits and say "Aha...see...it was the right move".  Making a decision for the long term takes way more stones.

To me, the risk can't even be justified on those shorter-term profits given the relationship with the VW group.

Nice to see you back, TG!

Nice little write up about the meaning of Aspirational Brands from Wikipedia. SOmething I hope the folks at VW/Porsche don't forget (and something Ulrich Bez will likely learn the hard way soon enough.)

In consumer marketing, an aspirational brand (or product) means a large segment of its exposure audience wishes to own it, but for economical reasons cannot. An aspirational product implies certain positive characteristics to the user, but the supply appears limited due to limited production quantities.
An important characteristic of an aspirational product is that the part of its exposure audience that is at present economically unable to purchase it, thinks of itself as having a fair probability of at a certain point in the future being able to do so. This part of the exposure audience is referred to as the aspirational audience, whereas the part of the exposure audience that already can afford the product is called the consumption audience. Consumption audience and aspirational audience together form the aspirational product's target audience, which typically represents 30%-60% of the exposure audience
Weak aspirational brands have target audiences that are almost as large as their exposure audiences (e.g. mp3 player brands), and are therefore slowly becoming commodity brands, e.g. brands with consumption audiences that coincide with the exposure audience (and therefore, brands without an aspiring audience).
As a general rule, an aspirational brand and its products can command a price premium in the marketplace over a commodity brand. This ability can to a large extent be explained by the consumer's need for invidious consumption for which he is willing to pay a premium. The smaller the size of the product's target audience compared to the exposure audience, the more the product satisfies this need, and the higher the premium that such a consumer is prepared to pay.
The larger the ratio of aspirational to consumption consumers in the target audience, the higher the brand's premium, e.g. Maybach cars. To keep the premium level of a brand high, the consumption portion of the audience should not exceed 30% of the aspirational audience.


Don't know that I would have chosen Maybach as my example.... :)

Audi, BMW and MB are already "expensive" commodity brands.
Porsche is close to becoming one.

In my books, Bentley, Rolls Royce, Ferrari, Lambo, Aston Martin etc. are true aspirational Brands.
I don't even consider Land Rover or Jaguar to be aspirational Brands.

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Re: 2014 Porsche Cajun
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2011, 12:34:13 pm »
Maybach hit the fan. That's how well it worked for them.

I don't see the problem in having a 'cheaper' Porsche. I'm not looking for a Mustang, Genesis etc fighter, but something to fit under the Cayman/Boxster. As long as it's a true driver's car, I don't see the issue here... it would certainly be more of a Porsche than the Cayenne. And Cayennes are literally everywhere nowadays.