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2011 Daytona 500
« on: February 13, 2011, 09:58:19 pm »
Well, the Bud shoot-out is now in the books with the elder Bush claiming victory.  A couple of observations:

  • 9800 rpm ain't bad for 'dem low tech carbureted engines.
  • Interesting how 2 cars can now go faster than the previous "pack" of 30 cars.
  • 206 miles an hour!  Wow...that new pavement is smooth and fast.
  • The new front-ends do look way better than the splitters used last year.
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 10:28:06 pm »
Quote from: TopGun on February 13, 2011, 09:58:19 pm
Well, the Bud shoot-out is now in the books with the elder Bush claiming victory.  A couple of observations:

  • 9800 rpm ain't bad for 'dem low tech carbureted engines.
  • Interesting how 2 cars can now go faster than the previous "pack" of 30 cars.
  • 206 miles an hour!  Wow...that new pavement is smooth and fast.
  • The new front-ends do look way better than the splitters used last year.

It's so smooth now that they only lose about 150rpm around the track in the Arca series.  Full throttle the whole way.
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 08:59:22 am »
Quote from: TopGun on February 13, 2011, 09:58:19 pm
Well, the Bud shoot-out is now in the books with the elder Bush claiming victory.  A couple of observations:

  • 9800 rpm ain't bad for 'dem low tech carbureted engines.
  • Interesting how 2 cars can now go faster than the previous "pack" of 30 cars.
  • 206 miles an hour!  Wow...that new pavement is smooth and fast.
  • The new front-ends do look way better than the splitters used last year.

Yeah, the 2 car thing is going to play very strange next Sunday I think.  This thursday should give us a better look into how it can be used to a persons advantage during the qualifiers.
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2011, 07:08:20 am »
Interesting how NASCAR responded to the speeds. They didn't mandate a smaller plate, instead they mandated smaller grill openings and pressure release valves on the cooling system. Supposedly to make them overheat in a draft! Yeah that WILL work, lets get some coolant mist on everyone's windscreen and eventually on the track, so when the motors blow up, nobody can see where they are going!

Lets see, 9,800 RPM, 500 miles, coolant missing, initially from pressure release. I bet the drivers were told not to say anything about these rule changes....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=Alf6Bj4IMnasIRpi3IBo4skEFsR_?slug=ap-nascar-daytonadrafting
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2011, 09:00:49 am »
Quote from: dougjp on February 15, 2011, 07:08:20 am
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Lets see, 9,800 RPM, 500 miles, coolant missing, initially from pressure release. I bet the drivers were told not to say anything about these rule changes....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=Alf6Bj4IMnasIRpi3IBo4skEFsR_?slug=ap-nascar-daytonadrafting

NASCAR issued a press release on the changes, and the VP of competition is on SiriusXM talking about them openly.  I wouldn't be surprised if they went to a smaller plate after more running on Wednesday or even Thursday.

VP Robin Pemberton explained this morning that one of the reasons they went with cooling changes was to extend the life of the engines.  They were seeing spreads of 100 degrees between the pusher (:P) and the pushee...that puts a lot of strain on the engines...and they don't want lots of blow-ups.
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2011, 09:19:30 am »
Thanks for that info. That is pretty scary, the engine builders can't be getting any sleep.

I dunno, when a coolant system loses water, things usually get worse. The drivers aren't going to give up pushing until its absolutely necessary, ie; too late in some cases. And if a pushing driver keeps moving out to pick up some air, or pushes consistently from off to one side on the car in front (its probably safer not to move left and right while on someone's bumper), then aren't there going to be more spinouts of the lead car like the Mark Martin incident on Saturday.

Thursday should be "interesting". Too bad the guaranteed entry for the race covers a majority of the drivers. Those who have to race their way in will be torn between drafting, overheating and not finishing or losing power, or not. 
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 10:27:31 am »
..so Daytona is gonna BLOW  UP real good..............might watch that...otherwise ovals make me dizzy............hope they have Multi -KOLOR
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 08:37:25 pm »
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Re: 2013 Mustang Sprint Car
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2011, 08:40:00 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:37:25 pm
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/15/espn-ford-submits-mustang-for-2013-nascar-sprint-cup-approval/


Once Chevy and Dodge submit thier Muscle cars (and you know they will) what is Toyota going to do?  I know it is all stickers, but a Camry against the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger seems weird.  Maybe they will swtich to Scion to un the newly named FR-S?
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Re: 2013 Mustang Sprint Car
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2011, 08:43:24 pm »
Quote from: Mike on February 15, 2011, 08:40:00 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:37:25 pm
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/15/espn-ford-submits-mustang-for-2013-nascar-sprint-cup-approval/


Once Chevy and Dodge submit thier Muscle cars (and you know they will) what is Toyota going to do?  I know it is all stickers, but a Camry against the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger seems weird.  Maybe they will swtich to Scion to un the newly named FR-S?

It's just a body.  They're all (almost) the same underneath.
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Re: 2013 Mustang Sprint Car
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2011, 08:46:10 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:43:24 pm
Quote from: Mike on February 15, 2011, 08:40:00 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:37:25 pm
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/15/espn-ford-submits-mustang-for-2013-nascar-sprint-cup-approval/


Once Chevy and Dodge submit thier Muscle cars (and you know they will) what is Toyota going to do?  I know it is all stickers, but a Camry against the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger seems weird.  Maybe they will swtich to Scion to un the newly named FR-S?

It's just a body.  They're all (almost) the same underneath.

Oh I know, only the nose sections vary (very minor at that) but from a marketing perspective it seems weird keeping the Camry against the pony trio.  Oh well, time will tell.
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Re: 2013 Mustang Sprint Car
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2011, 08:51:54 pm »
Quote from: Mike on February 15, 2011, 08:46:10 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:43:24 pm
Quote from: Mike on February 15, 2011, 08:40:00 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:37:25 pm
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/15/espn-ford-submits-mustang-for-2013-nascar-sprint-cup-approval/


Once Chevy and Dodge submit thier Muscle cars (and you know they will) what is Toyota going to do?  I know it is all stickers, but a Camry against the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger seems weird.  Maybe they will swtich to Scion to un the newly named FR-S?


It's just a body.  They're all (almost) the same underneath.

Oh I know, only the nose sections vary (very minor at that) but from a marketing perspective it seems weird keeping the Camry against the pony trio.  Oh well, time will tell.


Or it could be a marketing homerun!!  "Our family sedan beats the competition's muscle cars!"
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Re: 2013 Mustang Sprint Car
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2011, 09:00:01 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:51:54 pm
Quote from: Mike on February 15, 2011, 08:46:10 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:43:24 pm
Quote from: Mike on February 15, 2011, 08:40:00 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:37:25 pm
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/15/espn-ford-submits-mustang-for-2013-nascar-sprint-cup-approval/


Once Chevy and Dodge submit thier Muscle cars (and you know they will) what is Toyota going to do?  I know it is all stickers, but a Camry against the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger seems weird.  Maybe they will swtich to Scion to un the newly named FR-S?


It's just a body.  They're all (almost) the same underneath.

Oh I know, only the nose sections vary (very minor at that) but from a marketing perspective it seems weird keeping the Camry against the pony trio.  Oh well, time will tell.


Or it could be a marketing homerun!!  "Our family sedan beats the competition's muscle cars!"

Or a marketing disaster, as in, "we only know how to make boring cars these days".
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Re: 2013 Mustang Sprint Car
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2011, 09:11:03 pm »
Quote from: dougjp on February 15, 2011, 09:00:01 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:51:54 pm
Quote from: Mike on February 15, 2011, 08:46:10 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:43:24 pm
Quote from: Mike on February 15, 2011, 08:40:00 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 15, 2011, 08:37:25 pm
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/15/espn-ford-submits-mustang-for-2013-nascar-sprint-cup-approval/


Once Chevy and Dodge submit thier Muscle cars (and you know they will) what is Toyota going to do?  I know it is all stickers, but a Camry against the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger seems weird.  Maybe they will swtich to Scion to un the newly named FR-S?


It's just a body.  They're all (almost) the same underneath.

Oh I know, only the nose sections vary (very minor at that) but from a marketing perspective it seems weird keeping the Camry against the pony trio.  Oh well, time will tell.


Or it could be a marketing homerun!!  "Our family sedan beats the competition's muscle cars!"

Or a marketing disaster, as in, "we only know how to make boring cars these days".

Or:  "Our boring cars beat the domestic's muscle cars!!"
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2011, 05:10:38 pm »
....INTENDED ACCELERATION............... :rofl:
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2011, 02:29:39 pm »
Go fast, turn left...
Go fast, turn left...
Go fast, turn left...
Go fast, turn left...

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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2011, 03:27:09 pm »
Quote from: 5 Wheel Drive on February 17, 2011, 02:29:39 pm
Go fast, turn left...
Go fast, turn left...
Go fast, turn left...
Go fast, turn left...

 :sleep:

No worries!  That's certainly not a unique argument against it however.  You take ANYTHING that someone is interested in and take it down to it's base level and it's boring.  For example - Hockey...hitting a piece of rubber with a stick   :sleep:

Moving on - We've seen NASCAR move to a smaller restrictor plate as we thought.  The changes to the cooling system seems to have caused quite a bit of shifting around in the Duel race today.
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2011, 05:01:35 pm »
maybe if the crowds threw pucks on the circuit..it would be interesting........... ::) :P..NasCar will soon enuf be NOCAR if they keep up the nonsense.......... :'(
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2011, 08:34:05 am »
Quote from: TopGun on February 17, 2011, 03:27:09 pm
Quote from: 5 Wheel Drive on February 17, 2011, 02:29:39 pm
Go fast, turn left...
Go fast, turn left...
Go fast, turn left...
Go fast, turn left...

 :sleep:

No worries!  That's certainly not a unique argument against it however.  You take ANYTHING that someone is interested in and take it down to it's base level and it's boring.  For example - Hockey...hitting a piece of rubber with a stick   :sleep:

Moving on - We've seen NASCAR move to a smaller restrictor plate as we thought.  The changes to the cooling system seems to have caused quite a bit of shifting around in the Duel race today.

I didn't mean to dis anyone who likes NASCAR.  I happen to like F1, I'm sure there's lots of people out there that don't.

I was just being a smarta$$....   ;D
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Re: 2011 Daytona 500
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2011, 08:37:07 am »
The two car draft thing was a bit boring honestly last night.  But it seems to be much safer for the drivers.  Once 43 cars are out there, it may get more entertaining.

Good on Waltrip coming 3rd in his qualifier in that old #15
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