Topic: Typical oil change interval

[PJungnitsch]

Dunno about the others, but Amsoil also sells both group III and PAO as synthetic. Another brand that has a separate 'European formula' from the rest of the line.

[ktm525]

The prevailing opinion these days re M1 oil products is that M1 0W40 and M1 0W30 are superb products and much superior to the ubiquitous M1 5W30. (Btw, M1 0W30 is *not* available in Canada).

Also although one can purchase XD 0W30 and 0W40 at an Esso Bulk outlet I find it much more convenient to obtain these same products at any Home Hardware. In fact I made such a purchase a couple of weeks ago.

0W-40 XD3 is no more. It has been replaced by Mobil 0W-40. 0w-30 XD3 soldiers on....for now.

[Engine123]

Very intersting topic:  In industry, we have Mobil, ESSO, or other oil provider take samples of the oil of different machines such as : gearboxes, hydraulic packs, etc and from there an analysis is performed and a report is then published and issued to the maintenance department.  On these reports we know if its time to change the oil based on contamination levels, water, and other key oil properties.  

Here we are in 2011, our cars have set intervals such as: AUDI 2011 A4 Quattro - 16,000km euro syntech, Toyota - 8,000 4-Runner 2000, my 2005-F150-5.4l on Pen 5-20 synthetic I change it at approx. 10,000 to 12,000 highway Kms...  Now I have a Tucson 2011, manual specs. interval of 5,000 kms (regular or synthetic).  It all sounds like a numbers game ($), with very little thought regarding the actual properties and contamination levels of the oil.  Think about the environmental impact of all of these bogus oil changes that are made world wide because someone said so.  Food for thought.  Do the Germans know something we dont?  Or are we just doing what others are telling us to do.  An on-line oil mointor sounds great as long as it is calibrated and precise...  Cause Garbage In = Garbage Out!

[safristi]

..anything other than German Castrated OIL fer a VW 2.0 L turbo FOUR...............nearly $100  a "crack" @ fer son's Passat wagon. "OILY" exchange..seems like a BOONDOGLE ta ME........

[triuman]

I'm still a believer of old school in this area, every 3 months or 5000 kms whichever is first. Dino or synthetic doesn't make that much of a difference. Your engine won't decide run cleaner because you spent more money on the oil. The same amount of carbon, acids, and wear materials get into to the oil at the same rate regardless of the brand you buy, the additive packages between a synthetic oil and dino aren't much different. Think of it the same you would the water in your toilet, Swiss Alps spring water or city of Moncton tap water, you still flush when your done. The more often you change the oil, the cleaner and happier your engine going to be.

Agree w/this. However I extend this a bit by changing the oil as soon as spring comes (to 10w), then changing it again as mid fall arrives by going to winter weight (5w). I don't put many miles on annually, only around 6,000.

[21Rouge]

However I extend this a bit by changing the oil as soon as spring comes (to 10w), then changing it again as mid fall arrives by going to winter weight (5w).

There is no reason to use a 10WXX oil in (almost?) any car. And given that it appears from your signature that you have an 09 Honda, this is even more true. And I am guessing that the owners manual for your civic calls for the grade of 5W20 or maybe even a 0W20.

[triuman]

However I extend this a bit by changing the oil as soon as spring comes (to 10w), then changing it again as mid fall arrives by going to winter weight (5w).

There is no reason to use a 10WXX oil in (almost?) any car. And given that it appears from your signature that you have an 09 Honda, this is even more true. And I am guessing that the owners manual for your civic calls for the grade of 5W20 or maybe even a 0W20.

I will check that out...Thank you!

[maritime_storm]

The switching back and forth spring and fall thing ended back in the 80's. Multi-grade oils were developped partially to eliminate this need for changing weights.

[Loudpedal]

Got the oil changed in the TL today.   Followed the oil life indicator, (alerts when <15%), and then put on another 800km or so.   Longest change interval I've ever done, at 10,200 km.   

Got the oil changed yesterday in the TL.  OLM said <5% for about a week (~450 kms).     6 months 2 weeks, and 10,250 kms. 

[tpl]

However I extend this a bit by changing the oil as soon as spring comes (to 10w), then changing it again as mid fall arrives by going to winter weight (5w).

There is no reason to use a 10WXX oil in (almost?) any car. And given that it appears from your signature that you have an 09 Honda, this is even more true. And I am guessing that the owners manual for your civic calls for the grade of 5W20 or maybe even a 0W20.

I will check that out...Thank you!

I have a suspicion that ALL Honda 4 cyl engines except perhaps the S2000 have specified 5w-20 dyno or synth for several years now. Certainly the 2007  Fit is 5w-20.

[Gardiner Westbound]

Dunno about the others, but Amsoil also sells both group III and PAO as synthetic. Another brand that has a separate 'European formula' from the rest of the line.

Synthetic motor oils are classified into three groups: Group III, Group IV, and Group V.

Group III synthetics, manufactured from less costly petroleum base stocks, are hydrocracked to remove impurities until they attain synthetic oil properties. The oil and additive companies which control the  classification system deem them synthetic, but only for the North American market. Elsewhere they are classified as premium motor oils. Almost all domestic synthetic motor oils are Group III.

Group IV polyalphaolefin (PAO) and Group V (Ester) synthetics are manufactured from expensive synthetic base stocks and are of much higher quality. They are the only true synthetics. Strict European specifications set by automakers require that all synthetic motor oils are Group IV or above. They include Elf (Total Quartz in Canada), Motul, Germany's Castrol Syntec 0w30 (aka German Castrol), and Pentosin.

[mmret]

However I extend this a bit by changing the oil as soon as spring comes (to 10w), then changing it again as mid fall arrives by going to winter weight (5w).

There is no reason to use a 10WXX oil in (almost?) any car. And given that it appears from your signature that you have an 09 Honda, this is even more true. And I am guessing that the owners manual for your civic calls for the grade of 5W20 or maybe even a 0W20.

I will check that out...Thank you!

I have a suspicion that ALL Honda 4 cyl engines except perhaps the S2000 have specified 5w-20 dyno or synth for several years now. Certainly the 2007  Fit is 5w-20.

The TSX is specced 5W-30 but then again the original design is from 2004....

Ye ol' Civic was a 5W-20.