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Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« on: April 16, 2010, 04:04:42 am »



"After many years of anonymity on Canadian roads, it appears the Hyundai Sonata is determined to be noticed," says editor-in-chief, Greg Wilson.  Its new four-cylinder engine offers class-leading power and better fuel economy, but the V6 is gone, he reports.

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2010, 08:05:02 am »
I test drove this vehicle (the GLS model actually) when it first came out.  I was really interested in how well the engine would perform, as I'm a power/speed oriented driver.  I was always a fan of the exterior styling but in person it wasn't quite as nice as I thought it would be.  For sure the Passat CC is a nicer looking vehicle on the outside.  When I got into the vehicle I was very surprised just how nice the interior was, in fact I was so impressed I was a bit disappointed that my 2010 Santa Fe didn't have a similar set up.  Then I started the engine and like mentioned in the article it does have a bit of harshness at idle and low speeds (under 30km per hour), but nothing that I would say would be a deal breaker.  The article said it was diesel like and if he was referring to the new VW TDI engines then I'd agree but not if he was referring to the older diesels.  Once away I did my usual route of highway, backroad, and city roads.  Merging (30km-90km) was surprising considering this is not a V6 or turbo 4, I think it's the closest a 4 cylinder can get to feeling like a V6.  Definitely something that V6 buyers should at least try out, especially if that V6 is over 5 years old because a lot of those had similar power to this 4 cylinder.  At highway speeds it is quite and smooth, but I will say that the VW Passat CC was quiter and a bit smoother, especially over the uneven surfaces on the back roads.  Overall I think this vehicle is a huge improvement for the segment and will help shape the midsize sedan market. 

This article mentions the lack of radar sensing cruise control, and I have to ask why?  Is there any other vehicle in this category that has that option.  I can understand the blind spot thingy as the Mazda 6 and Fusion do offer that, but no other midsize family vehicle has this radar sensing cruise option.  I will say that in a couple of years I can see this option to show up in some midsize family vehicles.

I've heard a lot of owners of this vehicle complain that their vehicle is not getting close to the fuel economy numbers, but I take that with a grain of salt as there are other factors working against this.  One being that it's a brand new vehicle and engine so it will usually take 5,000-10,000 kms before it is broken in, a lot of the people who complain about the fuel economy have no idea how to drive fuel efficiently (using the gas pedal as an on/off switch), and the posted fuel economy numbers are best case senario and rarely ever reached in real life.  I will say that Hyundai could have made this more fuel efficient with a CVT but thankfully they listened to the consumer and stuck with a much better option of 6-speed tranny.

Now for some news, the new 2.0L turbo version will be GDI and tweeked from the Genesis Coupe vehicle to make an amazing 274 HP!  That's class leading and to go along with that the fuel economy is just slightly worse than the 2.4 GDI, meaning it will be way better than any V6 option the competition has to offer.  I can't wait to try that engine out.  I'm sure it will have a $2,000+ premium compared to base 2.4L engine but in my books it will be worth it.  Also there will be a hybrid version that will get about the same fuel mileage as the ford fusion hybrid (a bit worse in the city, but a bit better on the highway).  That vehicle will look very distinct compared to the non hybrid versions and will have a combined power of 210 HP.  So i'm guessing it will have about the same performance as the 2.4L powered Sonata.  Again they left out the CVT and I really appreciate that as a lot of those are just terrible to drive.  In any case I think this is the midsize vehicle to beat.

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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2010, 09:30:41 am »
Although I have not test driven this new model, I like the exterior styling with it's agressive stance.  It's hard to believe that it's only 5mm lower than the previous model.  As John pointed out, there are two more models in the works.  While the hybrid version will be distinctive and offers the "save the planet" cachet that some people prefer, I personally can't wait until the turbo version arrives.  Hopefully Hyundai will make it available in a Sport Edition model with a premium stereo as standard equipment.  If the turbo engine lives up to the promises made by Hyundai, I just may be buying my first Korean vehicle!!

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2010, 10:37:40 am »
From a styling point of view I like the looks of this car, however I think the upcoming new 2011 Optima from KIA has the edge, at least in my eyes.  It would be an interesting side by side comparison of these two vehicles as they will both use the same powertrains but from that point they are different execusions.

Glad to see this car has self supporting hood struts, its about time all manufacturers got away from prop-up rods.  Also struts for the trunk lid would be a big improvement.  Always wondered these days why they even offer a 6 CD changer, it seems obsolete in the days of mp3 CD players and AUX/USB ports - kind of like offering a cassette player. ???

It will be interesting to see how much they effect the Camry/Accord strong hold in this market segment in the real world.

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2010, 01:08:45 pm »
The fact that the range-topper is $31K with nav, leather, and 2 rows of heated seats is thoroughly impressive. I'm not keen on the front grille but overall the styling is at least pleasant and at the very least it is different from the other mid-size competitors. Limiting engine choice (at least for now) to one is risky as they might lose some power-junkies, but at least the I4 they used was a capable one, and surely reducing manufacturing requirements to one engine brought the cost down.

The one I'd be waiting for would be a sport model - keep your leather an nav, I just want the turbo with a 6-speed manual, aggressively bolstered cloth seats (good cloth, not 'velour'), and a great stereo...for under $30K please!

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2010, 01:33:33 pm »
Nah. I dont need any of the above...heavily bolstered seats??? Hopefully the passenger one includes an ejector and a parachute. Never had heated seats. Why is this a huge thing all of a sudden. I like the appearance which is somewhat Merc like to me but dont like the monocled speedo and tach. Maybe they look better in the flesh than in the photo. Rowing through six gears with a stickshift would become tiresome indeed in a hurry for me. Four speed manual would be prefferable for me or five max. If the automatic six speed works as nicely as the automatic in my 4 year old Accent I would be very happy with that. Wore out two sets of clutch master cylinder seals in the peak hour highway travel/un-travel across TO on manual shift cars. Nice product but I am waiting to see what the new Elantra is like and I think that the Elantra would be a better sport platform if so configured.

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2010, 01:55:33 pm »
..heated seats prevent Haemorrhoids RUPERT......well worth the  $100 or so bucks.................butt! they will prolly co-mingle them with a yards worth of nonsense...rear view cameras....spousal abuse indicators and politically incorrect lane changes.....!!!!!..wot happened ta pickin' yer own groceries on the LIST!!!! ;D
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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2010, 02:16:28 pm »
There will be NO MANUAL TRANSMISSION on the turbo model.  http://jalopnik.com/5505977/2011-hyundai-sonata-turbo-274-hp-34-mpg-no-manual  Combined with no manual transmission for the SE model, but a manual on the base-suspension model, I have to wonder if Hyundai has any idea what the target market for a manual-transmission car is.
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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2010, 02:30:55 pm »
From a styling point of view I like the looks of this car, however I think the upcoming new 2011 Optima from KIA has the edge, at least in my eyes.  It would be an interesting side by side comparison of these two vehicles as they will both use the same powertrains but from that point they are different execusions.

Glad to see this car has self supporting hood struts, its about time all manufacturers got away from prop-up rods.  Also struts for the trunk lid would be a big improvement.  Always wondered these days why they even offer a 6 CD changer, it seems obsolete in the days of mp3 CD players and AUX/USB ports - kind of like offering a cassette player. ???

It will be interesting to see how much they effect the Camry/Accord strong hold in this market segment in the real world.







I totally agree with the trunk struts.....it's my pet peeve with many vehicles. Why do carmakers cheap out with those hockey-stick hinges is just plain wrong......and alot is SO right with the new Sonata.
A six speed tranny, heated windshield, hood struts and sexy styling says winner to me.....well done Hyundai.    ;)
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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2010, 02:32:13 pm »
..trunk struts .........there has ta be an anagram there .............NO!!!!

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2010, 03:06:16 pm »
I had to check the title of the article again...to my surprise, it did said Test DRIVE...not Test the Spec Sheet.  The driving comments were, as per usual, pretty minimal.

And there was no comparison to the competition in that department either...unless I missed it because my feet went to sleep reading the spec sheet...I mean article.
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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2010, 05:04:11 pm »
I had to check the title of the article again...to my surprise, it did said Test DRIVE...not Test the Spec Sheet.  The driving comments were, as per usual, pretty minimal.

And there was no comparison to the competition in that department either...unless I missed it because my feet went to sleep reading the spec sheet...I mean article.


Here is a recent comparison of the manuals:
http://www.insideline.com/hyundai/sonata/2011/2011-hyundai-sonata-gls-vs-2010-honda-accord-vs-2010-mazda-6-i-touring-comparison-test.html

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2010, 06:13:06 pm »
Glad to see this car has self supporting hood struts, its about time all manufacturers got away from prop-up rods.  Also struts for the trunk lid would be a big improvement. 

My '08 has a supporting hood strut AND struts for the trunklid.  Curious that they reverted to the luggage crushing goosenecks on the new iteration.

I sampled the new one the other day and really like it though.  With good promotions in a couple years when comes time to trade mine and they might well get my money again.  I'd get another GL but with the A6 slushbox.

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2010, 07:37:14 pm »
  Last week I purchased a new black Sonata GLS (base model here in the states)...with 6 speed manual...I would have gone for the SE (sport model, with 18 inch wheels, among several other goodies), but for the unavailability of the manual tranny.
  I plan on purchasing some aftermarket 18 inch black gloss wheels and matching tires from Discount Tire Direct...(soon as I get wifey over the shock)..hehe.
 The car is great to drive...I'm getting old, so I find it a bit of a pain getting in and out, as the roof is low upon entry, but amazingly, has a lot of headroom, once inside.
 This car is surprisingly fast...and nice and quiet..The standard sound system is great...Nice smooth ride... Really beautiful interior. And, I gotta rub this in...Out the door for $18,300...
 With neato 18 inch gloss black 18 inch wheels..under $19,500...What a deal!!
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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2010, 08:20:56 pm »
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 This car is surprisingly fast...and nice and quiet..The standard sound system is great...Nice smooth ride... Really beautiful interior. And, I gotta rub this in...Out the door for $18,300...
 With neato 18 inch gloss black 18 inch wheels..under $19,500...What a deal!!
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Well, that settles it...I'm dealing the RX-8 for one of these!

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2010, 09:28:34 pm »
Yeah, thats because of volume...right.

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2010, 11:26:39 pm »
Combined with no manual transmission for the SE model, but a manual on the base-suspension model, I have to wonder if Hyundai has any idea what the target market for a manual-transmission car is.

Simple really. The manual on the base model allows them to show a very attractive base price (about $1400 cheaper) on a vehicle almost no one will order (and the dealers won't stock).There is no target market for a manual in the affordable family sedan market.



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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2010, 11:42:04 pm »










I totally agree with the trunk struts.....it's my pet peeve with many vehicles. Why do carmakers cheap out with those hockey-stick hinges is just plain wrong......and alot is SO right with the new Sonata.
A six speed tranny, heated windshield, hood struts and sexy styling says winner to me.....well done Hyundai.    ;)

Actually it's a mixed deal. My 09 Sonata has trunk struts which free up space, but the trunk won't pop open by itself and actually takes some muscle to pull up, which isn't great when your arms are full of bags.

I like the system I saw on an 05 Subaru Legacy where the trunk hinges move through  sleeves. At least then you know what you can load in advance without risking crushing anything. Just load up to the sleeves...

I suspect Hyundai went back to hinges based on ease of operation, not cost savings.

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2010, 11:49:10 pm »
.....
 This car is surprisingly fast...and nice and quiet..The standard sound system is great...Nice smooth ride... Really beautiful interior. And, I gotta rub this in...Out the door for $18,300...
 With neato 18 inch gloss black 18 inch wheels..under $19,500...What a deal!!
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Well, that settles it...I'm dealing the RX-8 for one of these!

of course you'll have to give up the RWd bias...

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Re: Test Drive: 2011 Hyundai Sonata Limited
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2010, 12:26:58 am »
Something is wrong here - the review talks about an Infinity Radio System on the Limited with Nav and the one picture in the review shows a Rear view mirror with a compass and Homelink. Was this a Canadian Model that was reviewed? As far as I have it those are two items omitted from the Canadian version. (yet we are paying much more) 
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