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Who is right ,who is wrong
« on: February 17, 2010, 07:16:25 am »
Toyota Canada and Nissan Canada have recalled more than 2,100 pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles to check for cracks in drive shafts. But Ford, which has similar components, doesn't plan to follow suit.

A Ford official said Tuesday the automaker won't be sending notices for inspections and possible repairs in this country because the company doesn't consider the part in question a safety issue.

"Our rigorous testing and review concluded there are no safety or performance issues," added Said Deep, a Ford product specialist
http://www.wheels.ca/Article%20Category/article/784514

So is Ford doing the right thing, because this does not look right
But Toyota & Nissan may have more -ve press if you only read headlines
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 09:41:58 pm »
"Deep said drive shafts that use the component primarily power the front wheels of Ford vehicles, while similar parts power the rear wheels and provide more torque in Toyota and Nissan models.

Deep also said the Ford vehicles with the same part are car-based sport utility vehicles, lighter and less likely to shift into four-wheel drive.

Dana Corp., which supplies the propeller shaft parts to the three automakers, informed the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration last week about a possible defect or cracks in the part in a small number of vehicles."

Sounds like enough of a different application in the Ford vehicles that it might not pose a problem.  I'm sure if they start flying apart on Fords they will be quick to act as there is little doubt this would be  under close scrutiny.

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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 09:49:55 pm »
Id someone said "Sounds like enough of a different application in the Toyota vehicles that it might not pose a problem." they'd be thrown to the wolves.  The press would have a field day.   Ford still is not recalling the F150 over exploding air bags...Wonder what would be said if it were Toyota's..?
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 10:04:50 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on February 17, 2010, 09:49:55 pm
Id someone said "Sounds like enough of a different application in the Toyota vehicles that it might not pose a problem." they'd be thrown to the wolves.  The press would have a field day.  

Absolutely, the press love inciting mob rules.  Who's down so we can kick them?
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2010, 10:07:42 pm »
Quote from: blur911 on February 17, 2010, 10:04:50 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 17, 2010, 09:49:55 pm
Id someone said "Sounds like enough of a different application in the Toyota vehicles that it might not pose a problem." they'd be thrown to the wolves.  The press would have a field day.  

Absolutely, the press love inciting mob rules.  Who's down so we can kick them?

They also like to have their bogeyman too.  Things on the terrorism front have been quiet, so I guess this is their bogeyman du jour?
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2010, 10:24:21 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on February 17, 2010, 10:07:42 pm
Quote from: blur911 on February 17, 2010, 10:04:50 pm
Quote from: rrocket on February 17, 2010, 09:49:55 pm
Id someone said "Sounds like enough of a different application in the Toyota vehicles that it might not pose a problem." they'd be thrown to the wolves.  The press would have a field day.  

Absolutely, the press love inciting mob rules.  Who's down so we can kick them?

They also like to have their bogeyman too.  Things on the terrorism front have been quiet, so I guess this is their bogeyman du jour?

Yeah, let's put the focus back on the terrorists.   :rofl2:

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 10:28:09 pm »
^^They use the Hilux because they are so reliable.  Someone even called them "bomb proof"..LOL  Ever see the Top Gear episode where they tried to demolish one??

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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2010, 11:33:08 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on February 17, 2010, 09:49:55 pm
Id someone said "Sounds like enough of a different application in the Toyota vehicles that it might not pose a problem." they'd be thrown to the wolves.  The press would have a field day.   Ford still is not recalling the F150 over exploding air bags...Wonder what would be said if it were Toyota's..?

The domestic auto companies in reality get a pass from the regulator.  Of those millions of defective Ford cruise control switches only 25% where replaced.

If you can't best the competition you try other ways to put them out of business.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 12:30:01 am »
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 12:53:04 am »
Quote from: rrocket on February 17, 2010, 10:28:09 pm
^^They use the Hilux because they are so reliable.  Someone even called them "bomb proof"..LOL  Ever see the Top Gear episode where they tried to demolish one??

I am not familiar with this "Top Gear" show.  It is serious automotive journalism that has never engaged in massive hyperbole for the sake of entertainment, no?
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 01:04:04 am »
Quote from: Mitlov on February 18, 2010, 12:53:04 am
Quote from: rrocket on February 17, 2010, 10:28:09 pm
^^They use the Hilux because they are so reliable.  Someone even called them "bomb proof"..LOL  Ever see the Top Gear episode where they tried to demolish one??

I am not familiar with this "Top Gear" show.  It is serious automotive journalism that has never engaged in massive hyperbole for the sake of entertainment, no?

It is the most entertaining car show out there, informative, sometimes.  If you want a spec sheet read aloud to you, watch an American car show, now THAT's information.  :rofl2:
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 01:11:43 am »
Quote from: Just Bob on February 18, 2010, 01:04:04 am
Quote from: Mitlov on February 18, 2010, 12:53:04 am
Quote from: rrocket on February 17, 2010, 10:28:09 pm
^^They use the Hilux because they are so reliable.  Someone even called them "bomb proof"..LOL  Ever see the Top Gear episode where they tried to demolish one??

I am not familiar with this "Top Gear" show.  It is serious automotive journalism that has never engaged in massive hyperbole for the sake of entertainment, no?

It is the most entertaining car show out there, informative, sometimes.  If you want a spec sheet read aloud to you, watch an American car show, now THAT's information.  :rofl2:

Dude, check what it says under my profile picture.  I love that show.  Totally fun enough to forgive the total lack of journalistic integrity...but I still keep that in mind when referring to it.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 10:38:10 am »
Quote from: articsteve on February 17, 2010, 11:33:08 pm
The domestic auto companies in reality get a pass from the regulator.  Of those millions of defective Ford cruise control switches only 25% where replaced.

If you can't best the competition you try other ways to put them out of business.

Of course, Mr. Artic. It's all a giant conspiracy. It just took this long to finally kick into gear.
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 11:00:39 am »
Conspiracy? Did someome mention conspiracy? Are we talking about the folks at Vanoc yet? :rofl2:
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 07:11:13 pm »
Quote from: CatsEye68 on February 18, 2010, 10:38:10 am
Quote from: articsteve on February 17, 2010, 11:33:08 pm
The domestic auto companies in reality get a pass from the regulator.  Of those millions of defective Ford cruise control switches only 25% where replaced.

If you can't best the competition you try other ways to put them out of business.

Of course, Mr. Artic. It's all a giant conspiracy. It just took this long to finally kick into gear.

It's Mr. Artic now is it ? You used to call him "Stevie " Greg. How formal. ;)
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2010, 07:14:52 pm »
Grow a set.
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Re: Who is right ,who is wrong
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2010, 02:35:50 am »

It's Mr. Artic now is it ? You used to call him "Stevie " Greg. How formal. ;)



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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2010, 11:51:31 am »
Welcome to "Paranoid Driver"...
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