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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2010, 07:43:49 pm »
Haven't found it (Chevron Techron) locally in years.  Where is it? ???

PEP Boys, Advance Auto Parts, Wal-Mart USA...

I have a few bottles in the basement.  ;D

Actually recommended by a few manufacturers which I was surprised to hear.
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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2010, 07:55:05 pm »
I looked last time I was across the border at a Wal-mart, but they didn't have it, that's where I used to get it years ago in Canada.

Canadian Tire had their product that was in the same exact bottle. I wonder if it was simply relabeled?

BMW sells it under their name.



Even the bottom of the bottles have the same Chevron insignia in them...

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2010, 07:58:31 pm »
Does the BMW cost 5 times as much??   ;D
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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2010, 10:57:27 pm »

Actually recommended by a few manufacturers which I was surprised to hear.

The only one Porsche recommended forever on CIS cars.  Apparently one of the few that work.  Is it still recommended for your 993?

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2010, 04:50:57 pm »

Actually recommended by a few manufacturers which I was surprised to hear.

The only one Porsche recommended forever on CIS cars.  Apparently one of the few that work.  Is it still recommended for your 993?

I don't know, but it was for my BMW.

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2010, 10:38:21 pm »
If there is one thing that's as timeless as bad driving, it's peoples compulsion to put snake oils in their engine.

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2010, 11:09:51 pm »
If there is one thing that's as timeless as bad driving, it's peoples compulsion to put snake oils in their engine.

I have never heard anything bad about Seafoam or Techron, most seem to agree that they are good products.  Do you have information to add?  Experience?

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2010, 12:03:22 pm »
..hey we bought BUSH-OIL..................and Nitrogen filled V SHELL OIL.......why not the latest and greatest snake oil........ ??? :think: :shuffle:...
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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2010, 10:23:48 pm »
If there is one thing that's as timeless as bad driving, it's peoples compulsion to put snake oils in their engine.

I have never heard anything bad about Seafoam or Techron, most seem to agree that they are good products.  Do you have information to add?  Experience?

There could be a few uses that it is right for, but the things most people use it for is not within its capabilities - or hopefully not. I will explain

A common usage of the chemical is a fuel system cleaner. Unfortunately though, once there has been significant build up on injectors, it takes a very strong concentration of a cleaner to make any reduction in the deposits (and even this often isn't enough). Systems that are used by mechanics and dealerships run the car on a very strong concentration of injector cleaner for this reason when doing fuel system cleaners. Even if sea foam was capable of cleaning the fuel system, a small bottle in a 70+ litre tank is not enough to make a difference.

Another use people attempt to use this product for is cleaning out carbon deposits inside the engine. This is certainly a situation that I hope it doesn't do as it claims, as it's an outstanding way to get carbon stuck in the valve seat which will result a burned valve.

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2010, 10:39:23 pm »
If there is one thing that's as timeless as bad driving, it's peoples compulsion to put snake oils in their engine.

I do not use oil additives in my engine.

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2010, 10:43:08 pm »
A common usage of the chemical is a fuel system cleaner. Unfortunately though, once there has been significant build up on injectors, it takes a very strong concentration of a cleaner to make any reduction in the deposits (and even this often isn't enough). Systems that are used by mechanics and dealerships run the car on a very strong concentration of injector cleaner for this reason when doing fuel system cleaners. Even if sea foam was capable of cleaning the fuel system, a small bottle in a 70+ litre tank is not enough to make a difference.

Another use people attempt to use this product for is cleaning out carbon deposits inside the engine. This is certainly a situation that I hope it doesn't do as it claims, as it's an outstanding way to get carbon stuck in the valve seat which will result a burned valve.


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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2010, 12:23:03 pm »
If there is one thing that's as timeless as bad driving, it's peoples compulsion to put snake oils in their engine.

I do not use oil additives in my engine.

I do, in my 911  I add a can of GM Engine Oil Supplement (EOS) with every oil change to replace the ZDDP which is missing from todays oil due to emission concerns.

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2010, 12:57:05 pm »
If there is one thing that's as timeless as bad driving, it's peoples compulsion to put snake oils in their engine.

I have never heard anything bad about Seafoam or Techron, most seem to agree that they are good products.  Do you have information to add?  Experience?

There could be a few uses that it is right for, but the things most people use it for is not within its capabilities - or hopefully not. I will explain

A common usage of the chemical is a fuel system cleaner. Unfortunately though, once there has been significant build up on injectors, it takes a very strong concentration of a cleaner to make any reduction in the deposits (and even this often isn't enough). Systems that are used by mechanics and dealerships run the car on a very strong concentration of injector cleaner for this reason when doing fuel system cleaners. Even if sea foam was capable of cleaning the fuel system, a small bottle in a 70+ litre tank is not enough to make a difference.

Another use people attempt to use this product for is cleaning out carbon deposits inside the engine. This is certainly a situation that I hope it doesn't do as it claims, as it's an outstanding way to get carbon stuck in the valve seat which will result a burned valve.

Ok, so you've never used Techron, Seafoam or any fuel injector cleaner and therefore feel that it doesn't work. 
So, do you think that all the people saying it seems to work great are lying?   If you read the instructions on a bottle of Techron you'd see that you are to add it to less than 1/4 tank of gas so your concentration theory doesn't fly.
Give Seafoam a Google, seems everybody loves the stuff, nobody mentions burnt valves, usually just better running and cleaner engines.
Most car manufacturers have a similar product to Seafoam, are these all snake oil too in your opinion?
I know there's junk out there on the market, but these two products seem to be ones that work.

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2010, 02:32:39 pm »
wot about ALL the additives in todays TOP of the line FUELS..............useless.....too...or repetitive to add more based onna HUNCH..............maybe U strip down yer engines say every 20K...... one with "placebo" premium fuels the other with "ADDITIVES" you read about.. and a 3rd one with non(minimal) additive i.e REG GAS as a baseline... .and YOUR RESULTS ARE  :stick:...by the way yer glowplugs are warming......... :P...

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2010, 02:46:42 pm »
I do not use oil additives in my engine.

I do, in my 911  I add a can of GM Engine Oil Supplement (EOS) with every oil change to replace the ZDDP which is missing from todays oil due to emission concerns.

But are any engines wearing out without it? The ZnDDP is a last line of defence during lubrication breakdown, from all that I have read.

The motorcycle guys seem to be more concerned about it than anybody else.

And in the end with all the oil threads, how many people have worn out an engine prematurely or had an oil related failure due to the oil they've used. In everyday use...practically zero...I've never heard of one.

A co-worker ran his V6 Camry 540,000 kms on dino oil without ever opening up the engine. It would still be running if he didn't get t-boned.

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2010, 03:07:01 pm »
I do not use oil additives in my engine.

I do, in my 911  I add a can of GM Engine Oil Supplement (EOS) with every oil change to replace the ZDDP which is missing from todays oil due to emission concerns.

But are any engines wearing out without it? The ZnDDP is a last line of defence during lubrication breakdown, from all that I have read.

The motorcycle guys seem to be more concerned about it than anybody else.

And in the end with all the oil threads, how many people have worn out an engine prematurely or had an oil related failure due to the oil they've used. In everyday use...practically zero...I've never heard of one.

A co-worker ran his V6 Camry 540,000 kms on dino oil without ever opening up the engine. It would still be running if he didn't get t-boned.

From what I gather the wear problem isn't prevalent in newer engines.  It's mostly in the older engines with flat tappet type cam followers, not the rollers found in newer engines.  Bikers who used to use regular motor oil are concerned because of the integrated gearboxes which supposedly love the ZnDDP,  now they have to use real motorcycle oil.  Some air-cooled 911 owners are also now using motorcycle oil, namely the Mobil 1 V-twin 20w-50 as it's more like how the old Mobil 1 used to be before the reformulation.
Most of the people I know using ZnDDP additives have old British stuff and performance cams.

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2010, 03:25:29 pm »
Some air-cooled 911 owners are also now using motorcycle oil, namely the Mobil 1 V-twin 20w-50 as it's more like how the old Mobil 1 used to be before the reformulation.

For their info, an Amsoil white paper:
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf

Check the bottom of page 12.

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Re: Will seafoam foul spark plugs?
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2010, 04:50:18 pm »
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