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Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« on: January 04, 2010, 10:09:09 am »
Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.

Hey I wondering. I'm interesting in buying a 2 and half year old focus looks brand new to me. Not a spec of dust on the thing. I wonder do you have to safety and etest. b/c it is a 2 year old car. Safety is only as I understand 28 days. So can I skip that part registratar the car with the seller package at the MTO. B/C it doesn't need it. It is a 2 year old car. Under a bumber to bumber waranty. Seem a whizz to me.

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2010, 10:58:03 am »
Still need the safety and e-test -- such is the genius of our gov.


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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 12:04:53 pm »
Thanks. Plus I have to pay $640 in tax on top at MTO and now got to do e-test and safety which is 400. No wonder why people buy from dealers. I don't think you save a lot and plus its lot more hassle.

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 01:49:37 pm »
Thanks. Plus I have to pay $640 in tax on top at MTO and now got to do e-test and safety which is 400. No wonder why people buy from dealers. I don't think you save a lot and plus its lot more hassle.

SO what work did the car need. Etest is about $35, a saftery is probably under a $100 how did come to $400

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 02:06:13 pm »
Thanks. Plus I have to pay $640 in tax on top at MTO and now got to do e-test and safety which is 400. No wonder why people buy from dealers. I don't think you save a lot and plus its lot more hassle.

SO what work did the car need. Etest is about $35, a saftery is probably under a $100 how did come to $400

That's what Ford quoted over the phone when asked. I only phoned that dealership because that were was it was brought new and then they told me they could get me into a new ford focus and why was I buying a used one.  When I could have brand new for not much more for a base with air. If I came into today They could get me a really good deal and I haven't even brought the car yet. Just making inquiries. Before deciding.  ::)
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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2010, 02:09:57 pm »
Thanks. Plus I have to pay $640 in tax on top at MTO and now got to do e-test and safety which is 400. No wonder why people buy from dealers. I don't think you save a lot and plus its lot more hassle.

Whether a car is safetied or e-tested is a bargaining point that should be looked at before you buy it.  Usually the seller does it, or sells it cheap "as is".  
It may not need an e-test depending on when it was done last, they are good for 1 year if you are buying a car.


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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2010, 02:18:23 pm »
The base Focus sedan is a smokin' deal right now. Lists w/ Air, side airbags, stability control, ABS, power locks, keyless entry for 14,500 (incl fees) plus tax.

Pretty hard to beat if you are ok with a sedan and don't mind the styling.

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 02:25:00 pm »
The base Focus sedan is a smokin' deal right now. Lists w/ Air, side airbags, stability control, ABS, power locks, keyless entry for 14,500 (incl fees) plus tax.

Pretty hard to beat if you are ok with a sedan and don't mind the styling.

Yes. They have try very very hard to talk me into buying a new. But I'm trying to save money here.

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2010, 03:32:08 pm »
No wonder why people buy from dealers. I don't think you save a lot and plus its lot more hassle.

I guess this means you're buying it privately?  You should save the GST and any of the admistration fees.  So not a ton of money but not insignificant.

I agree that needing both is a little ridiculous.  Mind you, the whole e-test program is ridiculous regardless of vehicle age.
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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2010, 03:37:52 pm »
No wonder why people buy from dealers. I don't think you save a lot and plus its lot more hassle.

I guess this means you're buying it privately?  You should save the GST and any of the admistration fees.  So not a ton of money but not insignificant.

I agree that needing both is a little ridiculous.  Mind you, the whole e-test program is ridiculous regardless of vehicle age.
The E-test program is not at all ridiculous, the implementation is not perfect but that is because of spineless pols.   
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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2010, 04:55:49 pm »
Sorry.  I guess I should have written "The e-test as it's currently implemented is incredibly ineffective".  It simply lacks any teeth what so ever and is nothing but a cash grab.

I am all for a proper e-testing program that actually removes cars from the road.

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2010, 05:55:32 pm »
That's all right then   :D

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2010, 10:22:53 pm »
Right. The car has no plates. I'm aloud to get the plates without e-test and certification. Because I need to drive the car to the do the test. This is starting to get annoying. So will the MTO give me a new plates and a few days grace to complete the next part?

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2010, 11:15:54 pm »
10 days from date of issue.

This Focus should still be under bumper to bumper warranty if mileage is not excessive.  Safety at a GTA or big city Ford dealer will probably be close to $200. tax in.  Most large dealers are fairly dishonest so they may try and nail you with unnecessary brake work.  That would be about all they could try and get you for other than bald tires.
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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2010, 10:30:41 am »
10 days from date of issue.

This Focus should still be under bumper to bumper warranty if mileage is not excessive.  Safety at a GTA or big city Ford dealer will probably be close to $200. tax in.  Most large dealers are fairly dishonest so they may try and nail you with unnecessary brake work.  That would be about all they could try and get you for other than bald tires.

OK. So let get this right. The issue the plates and I have 10 days to complete the tests which I'm getting done today. Alright Thanks steve....Off to get the plates. BTW. The tires are brand new and the brakes are pefect too. I'm going to asked if they mind me watching. Slighty Worried...Main Dealers Shoudn't be crooks. Why is buying a car so awful. It should be enjoyable process. Not about being screwed over at every turn.
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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2010, 11:09:49 am »

OK. So let get this right. The issue the plates and I have 10 days to complete the tests which I'm getting done today. Alright Thanks steve....Off to get the plates. BTW. The tires are brand new and the brakes are pefect too. I'm going to asked if they mind me watching. Slighty Worried...Main Dealers Shoudn't be crooks. Why is buying a car so awful. It should be enjoyable process. Not about being screwed over at every turn.

They issue the plates, but only give you a temporary sticker for the corner, it's good for 10 days.   You don't have to get it safetied at the dealer.  You can go anywhere.  Last one I had cost me $90.

Why didn't the previous owner get it safetied and e-tested?  Having it tested  can raise the value significantly over an "as-is" car, especially if it needs no work to pass.  Not having it done is sometimes a sign there's something wrong with the car, although probably not in this case as it's still under warranty.
I hope you got a good deal as you have to do the running around and pay for any work to make it pass the safety or e-test.

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2010, 12:25:32 pm »
I'm going to asked if they mind me watching.

hehe  I don't think so.   The safety is very basic.  Brakes, tie rods, ball joints, lights, not much really.  Usually garages get ppl for tie rods and ball joints and brakes, although many E brakes are shot.  Cables and E brake shoes can run $500. on many cars. 

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2010, 12:49:10 pm »
Why didn't the previous owner get it safetied and e-tested?

Because he said it was new car and didn't have too and he couldn't be bothered.

I'm going to asked if they mind me watching.

hehe  I don't think so.   

Yep. There answer was standard No b/c insurance. So I went to my back my old car mechanics who was very please to see me. he's the guy I brought the Astro Van off which let me say still runs perfect. Good old Gary did it for $56.44.

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2010, 03:59:38 pm »
After a couple days behind the wheel. It just feels cheap after driving a civic. It shouldn't really. But anything does. When I open the doors. The plastic chrome handle feel so cheap. Even the seats feels cheaper. Everything on this car feels cheaper. Even down to the steering wheel. It almost like steeping from a BMW to economy car. Drives really nice tho and love the silly mood lighting. But does feel cheaper compared to a civic. It shouldn't I know. But it does. Oh well...It's half the price of used civic so great buy on that fact alone.  ;D

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Re: Safety and Etest on a almost new car. Do you have too.
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2010, 12:56:14 pm »
Do you find it has a more compliant ride than the Civic?  I have been a passenger in a coworker's '06 EX sedan and the ride is somewhat harsh.