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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2009, 08:16:03 pm »
And the answer would again be "Put on your big-girl panties, and get on with life"?

No, the answer to that is to prevent the laws from coming into effect in the first place.

You can't call something 'random' if the rules are well known, and it's your choice whether to break them or not.  Don't be obtuse.

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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2009, 08:29:31 pm »
And the answer would again be "Put on your big-girl panties, and get on with life"?

No, the answer to that is to prevent the laws from coming into effect in the first place.

You can't call something 'random' if the rules are well known, and it's your choice whether to break them or not.  Don't be obtuse.

Now you're being semantic.

And it probably will be random. Just as speeding enforcement is pretty random. In fact we can probably model it as a Poisson process. Parameter Gamma in this case would be a function of speed (at least as a first order approximation...obviously some other factors are involved, such as whether its a holiday weekend etc.), and probably looks logistic:



Not quite the same numbers obviously, but you get the idea.
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2009, 09:02:36 pm »
....i prefer the Dead POISSON dialectic......................there are ONLY 2 things that smell like DEAD FISH.......and one is POLITICIANS.............. :shuffle: :drool: :fall:
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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2009, 09:59:18 pm »
And the answer would again be "Put on your big-girl panties, and get on with life"?

No, the answer to that is to prevent the laws from coming into effect in the first place.

You can't call something 'random' if the rules are well known, and it's your choice whether to break them or not.  Don't be obtuse.

Now you're being semantic.

And it probably will be random. Just as speeding enforcement is pretty random. In fact we can probably model it as a Poisson process. Parameter Gamma in this case would be a function of speed (at least as a first order approximation...obviously some other factors are involved, such as whether its a holiday weekend etc.), and probably looks logistic:




It probably looks like maybe we could call it whatever we wanted to if we never bothered to use any facts.

But it's not random. 

So don't call it random.
Not quite the same numbers obviously, but you get the idea.

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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2009, 10:06:26 pm »
You don't appear to understand what a Poisson process is, nor do you appear to understand what randomness is.

To rectify the former, I can provide this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_process

As for the latter, nothing.

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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2009, 08:07:06 am »
Random's thoughts are PUNNY...........

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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2009, 12:47:34 pm »
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Put on your big-girl panties, and get on with life.

Just for the record, I couldn't tell you if rrocket was or was not wearing his big-girl panties when we went to the Detroit show last year.   ;D
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« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2009, 01:11:54 pm »
 ::)..can we have a VOTE onnit...........................National Elastic Enquirers wanna KNOW............

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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2009, 03:17:41 pm »
to those who say "follow the rules, then there's nothing to worry about", well...

i wrote about this couple years back i think, but my mother got "careless driving" ticket for sliding on ice..  No known "Laws" were broken.  condition of the road were horrible, and she just couldn't catch the slide in time. (nor do i think she was capable, approaching senior status soon... but that's another matter).  the car at the time had ice tires with studs on.   

so...  it's really not true.  if you are just shi+ outta luck, you can and WILL get fined for anything.

Driving thrills makes my wallet lighter.. and therefore makes me faster because i'm shedding weight... :D

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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2009, 05:49:03 pm »

Just for the record, I couldn't tell you if rrocket was or was not wearing his big-girl panties when we went to the Detroit show last year.   ;D

Thanks a lot. Now I can't get that image out of my head.  ARGH...


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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2009, 07:24:58 pm »
You don't appear to understand what a Poisson process is, nor do you appear to understand what randomness is.

To rectify the former, I can provide this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_process

As for the latter, nothing.

You're quite funny.

I suggest you need a course of glycerine suppositories.



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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2009, 07:35:43 pm »
Don't forget to dip the suppositories in "Ass in Antartica" sauce before application.
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Re: Traffic Offense Fines Going Up Jan 1st.
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2009, 08:55:37 pm »
Just a note about regular auto safety inspections. They aren't really that common. 18 U.S. states require them (many of them just every two years). We certainly don't have them here in Manitoba. Let's face...they are a pretty silly waste of money.

But I just wanted it recorded that regular safety inspections aren't the norm.