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Re: Toyota found to keep tight lid on potential safety problems
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2009, 04:25:26 pm »
I remember  everyone loving Toyota when they were #2 Kill the leader , love the under dog ;D

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Re: Toyota found to keep tight lid on potential safety problems
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2009, 05:25:37 pm »
I remember  everyone loving Toyota when they were #2 Kill the leader , love the under dog ;D


How things have changed now that GM is no longer #1.  :)



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Re: Toyota found to keep tight lid on potential safety problems
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2009, 05:35:30 pm »
So are we supposed to judge GM based not upon what we see today, but upon a book that was written before I was born?  Brands change.  Look at Hyundai.  Nobody blames them for the crud they pumped out 20 years ago.

So all the hate is for Toyota or the people who buy Toyota?

 ??? Xenophobia much?

I don't think anyone here is saying that Toyota buyers are stupid, or worse yet, hating people who buy Toyota.  Instead, it's a sarcastic response to certain people shrugging off the fact that Toyota has had more complaints as to unintended acceleration than other brands.  It's a response to the position that "there's no problem, it happens with every brand, and I could stop a car if the engine started to race."  The answer people are advancing is: "so if the Toyota isn't the problem, why the higher statistical rate of these claims about Toyotas specifically?"  (Meaning the car itself is the problem, not actually meaning that the drivers are the problems).

I personally am skeptical of the unintended acceleration claims against Toyota--I suspect that it's driver error compounded by media-driven panic, which in turn causes over-reporting of driver error with Toyotas specifically, which in turn creates the statistical discrepancy--but I had to respond to your post because I see absolutely no xenophobia in this thread.

um.....Literalism doesn't let us escape much.

I am just posing a question or a statement if you will. Highlighted in bold was the sentiment expressed here.

Its similar story Domestics vs. Imports, same mentality, same characters pop up leading to degradation of content on this site.

In essence, same crap, different pile. Corporations, mainly behave the same.
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Re: Toyota found to keep tight lid on potential safety problems
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2009, 05:57:22 pm »
Its similar story Domestics vs. Imports, same mentality, same characters pop up leading to degradation of content on this site.

In essence, same crap, different pile.

Well that's something we can definitely agree upon.  Shame, really, but true.
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