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« on: November 22, 2009, 04:20:33 pm »

My '99 Grand Am has 4 All Season tires that go from the recommended 30psi down to 22ish PSI after about 7-12 days, requiring that I fill them up quite often. These P225/50R16 tires have been on these rims for about 6 years or so and have been leaking like this since I put them back on this past spring when I took off my snow tires. A few of them leaked the year before as well but not nearly as bad, and I have been putting up with filling up the tires with an air compressor often because of these leaks.

I took them off my car this weekend and put my snow tires on (dedicated rims, not using the same ones) so now that they were off I filled up a huge plastic bin full of water to see where exactly the air was leaking out from, and discovered it was leaking from between the tires and the rims all around both sides (I checked two of the four tires, both were doing the same) - see the attached images for details.

Now these tires have been on these rims for a good 6 years, so is it a simple matter of removing the tires from the rims, cleaning the rims/tires up, and then putting them back on? I'm guessing this isn't something that I can easily do (I'd imagine it's not as easy as it is changing tires on a pedal bike's rims lol...) so should I take it somewhere to do it (Canadian Tire? Eeeep...) and what would it cost to get them to do it? Would it definitely fix this problem if I brought it somewhere or is there a chance that it will still leak even after I get it done? These tires only have one summer left in them I think... so would I be better off just buying new tires instead of trying to repair them? I definitely want to keep on using these stock rims again once I do decide to buy new tires, so I'm hoping it is not the rims that are damaged or worn...

Would Slime tire sealant be another option? Would that fix it permanently? Or would that just make a mess that would have to be cleaned up a year from now, etc?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 04:36:34 pm »

This happens a lot. The inside on the rim on aluminum rims gets really corroded. This means that the bead of the tire doesn't have a tight seal on the rim. To fix this, The rim need to be scraped down smooth with a wire brush, then sealed with a special tire sealer. Since the tires are already 6 years old i wouldn't bother cleaning them. When you go to buy new tires they will clean and seal the rims for you before mounting the tire.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 04:42:57 pm »

This happens a lot. The inside on the rim on aluminum rims gets really corroded. This means that the bead of the tire doesn't have a tight seal on the rim. To fix this, The rim need to be scraped down smooth with a wire brush, then sealed with a special tire sealer. Since the tires are already 6 years old i wouldn't bother cleaning them. When you go to buy new tires they will clean and seal the rims for you before mounting the tire.
Cool, thanks for the prompt response fede! So the existing rims are still 100% reusable after a cleaning, and I won't have to worry about replacing those as well, that's great news! I'll be sure to test the new tires for leaks in a big bin of water after I buy new ones before putting them back on my car to ensure there are no leaks and that the garage did a good job cleaning and sealing the corroded rims. I guess I'll wait until the spring to get them as well, no point worrying about it now.

I'm definitely not going to bother with that Slime stuff, but since I'm here, I might as well ask if any of you have ever used that stuff and if it works well for this type of problem.
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 05:40:53 pm »

Agree with getting the tire shop to clean the rim and then apply sealant. I had a motorcycle with alloy rims, and that fix worked well.

On the slime stuff, it would probably work, I know we use it on our quads to seal against punctures from cactus spines. Refill every year as it dries out.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 09:10:58 am »

IIRC, tire techs hate it when people use that Slime stuff unless it is an emergency. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 11:15:33 am »

IIRC, tire techs hate it when people use that Slime stuff unless it is an emergency. 
That's what I was wondering as well. I wasn't sure if it was a huge pain to clean up for the tire installers or not. Since I'm getting a friend of a friend who works in a garage to do it I don't wanna annoy him with the slime stuff lol... I'll just get new all season tires in the spring and avoid slime altogether.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 01:24:21 pm »

Whatever you do, don't say "I don't know."  Oh, sh...
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