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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 08:55:57 am » |
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That is a surprise.
Also noticed a pix there of the new 928 to be built using the Panamera platform. Looks really sweet. |
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 09:43:34 am » |
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Great news! Now bring us the Polo, VW!!! |
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 10:57:09 am » |
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Holy crap. Good for them.
Bet there are some pink slips being handed out at Toyota today. |
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 11:05:12 am » |
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Great news! Now bring us the Polo, VW!!!
And that mini-mini van they make (similar to the Mazda5 but I forgot the name). |
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How is it possible that after electricity has traveled through hundreds of miles of power line then hundreds of feet (or yards) of romex in our home, that changing the last three feet of wire with something exotic, expensive (cool looking, and packaged in a pricey box) is going to make a difference?
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 11:22:01 am » |
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Touran. VW definitely needs to bring that one too. |
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 11:41:38 am » |
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Whether the Polo and the Touran are bought to North America will be very much exchange rate dependent in my opinion. |
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 11:52:49 am » |
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...which is why I think it's time for VW to open up a few plants here in North America and start producing some of their vehicles here... That would allow them to sell for a bit less, I would think. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 11:58:50 am » |
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Yes the Touran. I saw a few of these when I was in Norway this summer and loved it. Sell it with the TDI and even I would have second thoughts about keeping my GTi.
As to the Polo, why can't they just replace the City Golf with this? Would make for a great line up.
Polo
Golf
Touran
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How is it possible that after electricity has traveled through hundreds of miles of power line then hundreds of feet (or yards) of romex in our home, that changing the last three feet of wire with something exotic, expensive (cool looking, and packaged in a pricey box) is going to make a difference?
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 12:04:00 pm » |
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Definitely agree with you that this lineup of vehicle would be incredible, but as it is now, VW just can't bring the Polo over and sell it for much less than the Golf, which is a problem. To be competitive with the Fit, Yaris, Versa, it needs to sell for 15-16k, which is just not possible right now. Keeping the old Golf and Jetta as City's was their solution for now. I'm hoping VW will find a way to bring the Polo (and Touran) and sell it at the right price within a few years. I think it would sell well. |
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 12:08:44 pm » |
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Great article about the Polo coming to Canada: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/driving-it-home/bet-on-polo-for-canada/article1289613/“This is not a new question at all,” said Wittig, adding that “the market is there in Canada” for the Polo.
The problem: find a find a way to create a version of the Polo that will sell in big numbers in both Canada and the United States. What's certain is that out Polo will not come from Europe.
Here at the Frankfurt Motor Show, Wittig said the European Polo -- a new version of which went on sale here this year -- would simply be too expensive to compete against the likes of the Hyundai Accent, Nissan Versa, Honda Fit and Toyota Yaris. The Polo starts at about 12,000 Euros in Germany. Exported to Canada from high-cost Europe, it would sell for at least $16,000 or $17,000.
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Look for VW to build the Polo in either Mexico or Brazil and export it to Canada. That way our Polo will have a starting price of less than $15,000.
Building in Mexico or Brazil will certainly help lower the prices... but might also affect quality (MkIV Golfs and Jettas, anyone?). We'll see... |
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2009, 08:41:01 am » |
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Talking about quality issues in Brazil. VW will recall nearly 400K vehicles due to a problem (stall) with 1.0 engines. The malfunction was generated because some parts of the engine didn't receive a proper surface treatment. The main problem is that VW itself asked to not treat the parts in order to cut costs... At least here in Brazil, VW products are losing quality model after model, year after year. If being number one means having lower quality then I don't see it as a good thing. |
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 09:49:27 am » |
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Talking about quality issues in Brazil. VW will recall nearly 400K vehicles due to a problem (stall) with 1.0 engines.
When will you be able to download version 1.1 to fix the bugs?  If being number one means having lower quality then I don't see it as a good thing.
It's tough to balance as we've seen from a couple of automakers now eh? ....Bet there are some pink slips being handed out at Toyota today.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2009, 10:48:48 am » |
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A Polo TDi would be a killer car for Canada even if it comes in at a higher price IMO. If it can get 5-l per 100km on the autobahn http://autos.canada.com/news/story.html?id=2028812 Then its real world consumption in Canada woudl trounce even somthing as impractical as a Smart. The Polo is perfect for Canada. Hatchback? Check Canada likes Hatchback. High qwuality/lots of features in a small car? Check Canada likes premium small cars. Problem? The US doesn't liek those things and they aren't going to do it Canada only. As with everything we get lumped in with the US so we get what they want. To compete in the US it needs to compete price wise and to do that they need to offer less equipped models and build them to a price. You can't build small cars like that cheaply enough in Canada or US. Its pretty simple. Too bad. |
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2009, 11:26:31 am » |
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Toolate There is a possible answer. That is for Canada to permit any car that meets the current and future ECE standards for carsh and emissions to be sold here without further modification. This would make no difference to safety... might even improve it. Make very little difference to emissions NOW and would probably improve it a little in future. We might then get the Polo, some more small diesels and RIV rules of course should then allow any ECE compliant car to be privately imported so those of us who REALLY wanted a Renault or a Seat could take the chance on warranty and parts and just bring it in. We would get some 98octane super clean unleaded with <15 ppm sulphur at the actual pump... that wouldn't be cheap. BUT it would  off the CAW, GM and possibly Ford... although I wonder if Ford might not take advantage of such a thing for the Mondeo and the small production variants of the Focus like the RS. Cars like these may have to come with a warning sticker saying: "This car may not be exported to the USA" although it would be allowed under the current rules to be driven on a tourist trip. How about it? Vote for me |
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2009, 11:35:48 am » |
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Toolate There is a possible answer. That is for Canada to permit any car that meets the current and future ECE standards for carsh and emissions to be sold here without further modification. This would make no difference to safety... might even improve it. Make very little difference to emissions NOW and would probably improve it a little in future. We might then get the Polo, some more small diesels and RIV rules of course should then allow any ECE compliant car to be privately imported so those of us who REALLY wanted a Renault or a Seat could take the chance on warranty and parts and just bring it in. We would get some 98octane super clean unleaded with <15 ppm sulphur at the actual pump... that wouldn't be cheap. BUT it would off the CAW, GM and possibly Ford... although I wonder if Ford might not take advantage of such a thing for the Mondeo and the small production variants of the Focus like the RS. Cars like these may have to come with a warning sticker saying: "This car may not be exported to the USA" although it would be allowed under the current rules to be driven on a tourist trip. How about it? Vote for me Where do I sign? |
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2009, 03:52:46 pm » |
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2009, 12:07:59 am » |
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Man that Euro exchange rate must hurt  Wonder how much of that is due to Chinese sales this year tho. In that case the strong Euro doesn't hurt as much. |
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2009, 12:30:42 am » |
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Bet there are some pink slips being handed out at Toyota today.
Not likely. Are these sales number a combination of VW, Porsche, Audi, SEAT, Skoda, Lambo, Bentley and Bugatti? In that case, it's not really that surprising. Toyota only has 2 global divisions (Toyota and Lexus). And beyond Scion, they don't own any other full line auto company. (They have a slice in Daihatsu and Hino trucks) Also consider the German market had a similar "cash for clunkers" that benefited the German marques. And they do really well in China too! Oh...and Toyota deliberately halved it's 1st quarter vehicle production too. So not a huge surprise given all the facts... |
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