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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2009, 11:15:19 pm »
I wouldn't be surprised if the Challenger has significantly boosted sales of the Charger and 300, which were starting to get long in the tooth.  People come in because the Challenger is just so cool, but once they're in and their significant other is starting to question the purchase, the salesman points out that the Charger drives similarly, is a lot more practical, and probably is cheaper.


Agreed.
I was shocked by how well the Chllenger drove. Probably shouldn't be, knowing all the E-Class DNA under the body, but I was.
Made me actually look at the Charger/300 in a different light. Probably a heck of a fun sedan, either or those.
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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2009, 11:19:10 pm »

Made me actually look at the Charger/300 in a different light. Probably a heck of a fun sedan, either or those.

Maybe with a V8...but otherwise?  Not so much...
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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2009, 11:19:47 pm »
The camaro SS is quite the bargain you get a vette motor in a slightly heavier chassis with a sophisticated suspension for $35k starting price?  BARGOON!

Too bad about the interior!

Hmmm..GM shows $37K on their site.  Are they discounting already?  Even at $37K, I have yet to see one for that. All the local ones are more or less loaded up.  I have not seen one for any less than low/nearly mid $40s.

I did see one today on the lot.  It was white, and had an interesting goldish sticker trim around the front fenders.  Looked not too bad at all.  Not sure if this is a GM package or some aftermarket thing?

Yeah, I saw $37K also. Probably have to order one for that.
Been trying (not too hard, I admit) to arrange a test drive through a local dealer. A very big Chevy store, they are still not getting any for stock. Everything is pre-sold by the time it comes in.

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2009, 11:21:09 pm »

Made me actually look at the Charger/300 in a different light. Probably a heck of a fun sedan, either or those.

Maybe with a V8...but otherwise?  Not so much...

Should have clarified that. I doubt I would be interested without a Hemi, and a handling package. That is a hell of an engine.
And anything with a SRT8 badge.

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2009, 11:23:51 pm »
The camaro SS is quite the bargain you get a vette motor in a slightly heavier chassis with a sophisticated suspension for $35k starting price?  BARGOON!

Too bad about the interior!

Hmmm..GM shows $37K on their site.  Are they discounting already?  Even at $37K, I have yet to see one for that. All the local ones are more or less loaded up.  I have not seen one for any less than low/nearly mid $40s.

I did see one today on the lot.  It was white, and had an interesting goldish sticker trim around the front fenders.  Looked not too bad at all.  Not sure if this is a GM package or some aftermarket thing?

Yeah, I saw $37K also. Probably have to order one for that.
Been trying (not too hard, I admit) to arrange a test drive through a local dealer. A very big Chevy store, they are still not getting any for stock. Everything is pre-sold by the time it comes in.

There are 5-6 here at a local lot!  Care to make a day trip here?  Can book some test drives for ya!  They still have that white one with the sweet gold stripe thing I was talking about.  Want me snap a pic for ya??

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2009, 11:41:57 pm »
The camaro SS is quite the bargain you get a vette motor in a slightly heavier chassis with a sophisticated suspension for $35k starting price?  BARGOON!

Too bad about the interior!

Hmmm..GM shows $37K on their site.  Are they discounting already?  Even at $37K, I have yet to see one for that. All the local ones are more or less loaded up.  I have not seen one for any less than low/nearly mid $40s.

I did see one today on the lot.  It was white, and had an interesting goldish sticker trim around the front fenders.  Looked not too bad at all.  Not sure if this is a GM package or some aftermarket thing?

Yeah, I saw $37K also. Probably have to order one for that.
Been trying (not too hard, I admit) to arrange a test drive through a local dealer. A very big Chevy store, they are still not getting any for stock. Everything is pre-sold by the time it comes in.

There are 5-6 here at a local lot!  Care to make a day trip here?  Can book some test drives for ya!  They still have that white one with the sweet gold stripe thing I was talking about.  Want me snap a pic for ya??

To be honest, my desire to drive a Camaro is not great enough to want to drive four hours for the pleasure.
Also, I don't think I have yet recovered fully from all the laser and radar hits my body took last time on final leg into Windsor. I have never seen as many cops as there were on the 401 down there.

Just thought of one other thing. I told them I didn't want to drive one unless it was a stick, so that might be slowing things down some. :)

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2009, 11:48:15 pm »


To be honest, my desire to drive a Camaro is not great enough to want to drive four hours for the pleasure.
Also, I don't think I have yet recovered fully from all the laser and radar hits my body took last time on final leg into Windsor. I have never seen as many cops as there were on the 401 down there.

Just thought of one other thing. I told them I didn't want to drive one unless it was a stick, so that might be slowing things down some. :)

Bastage!!  Part of that pleasure is meeting me, you prick!!   :rofl2:

No doubt about the radar/laser/plane patrol corridor.  That's Fantino's old stomping grounds...


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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2009, 12:28:16 am »


To be honest, my desire to drive a Camaro is not great enough to want to drive four hours for the pleasure.
Also, I don't think I have yet recovered fully from all the laser and radar hits my body took last time on final leg into Windsor. I have never seen as many cops as there were on the 401 down there.

Just thought of one other thing. I told them I didn't want to drive one unless it was a stick, so that might be slowing things down some. :)

Bastage!!  Part of that pleasure is meeting me, you prick!!   :rofl2:

No doubt about the radar/laser/plane patrol corridor.  That's Fantino's old stomping grounds...



Thanks for clarifying. Didn't realize that was going to be a pleasure. :D

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2009, 12:34:00 am »


To be honest, my desire to drive a Camaro is not great enough to want to drive four hours for the pleasure.
Also, I don't think I have yet recovered fully from all the laser and radar hits my body took last time on final leg into Windsor. I have never seen as many cops as there were on the 401 down there.

Just thought of one other thing. I told them I didn't want to drive one unless it was a stick, so that might be slowing things down some. :)

Bastage!!  Part of that pleasure is meeting me, you prick!!   :rofl2:

No doubt about the radar/laser/plane patrol corridor.  That's Fantino's old stomping grounds...



Thanks for clarifying. Didn't realize that was going to be a pleasure. :D

YMMV...... ;D

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2009, 02:50:56 am »
I wouldn't be surprised if the Challenger has significantly boosted sales of the Charger and 300, which were starting to get long in the tooth.  People come in because the Challenger is just so cool, but once they're in and their significant other is starting to question the purchase, the salesman points out that the Charger drives similarly, is a lot more practical, and probably is cheaper.


Agreed.
I was shocked by how well the Chllenger drove. Probably shouldn't be, knowing all the E-Class DNA under the body, but I was.
Made me actually look at the Charger/300 in a different light. Probably a heck of a fun sedan, either or those.

People bash the dashboard plastics as everything that's wrong with American interiors, but the Charger R/T owner I know LOOOOOOOOOVES her car for this reason.
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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2009, 10:47:24 am »

People bash the dashboard plastics as everything that's wrong with American interiors, but the Charger R/T owner I know LOOOOOOOOOVES her car for this reason.

Really?  Why so? 

Of course, I'm sure some people put out Royal Chinette for their fancy dinners and are impressed by it too. 

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Rrocket, your point about the big difference in driving enjoyment between the V8 and V6 cars is true in my experience too.  I've had a rental 300C that really impressed me and a rental Magnum SXT that really UNimpressed me.

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2009, 11:05:31 am »
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Agreed.
I was shocked by how well the Chllenger drove. Probably shouldn't be, knowing all the E-Class DNA under the body, but I was.
Made me actually look at the Charger/300 in a different light. Probably a heck of a fun sedan, either or those.

People bash the dashboard plastics as everything that's wrong with American interiors, but the Charger R/T owner I know LOOOOOOOOOVES her car for this reason.

Really?  Why so? 

Of course, I'm sure some people put out Royal Chinette for their fancy dinners and are impressed by it too. 

Maybe I wasn't clear.  Read Erik's post again (the one I was responding to) and then mine--my post doesn't make sense without reading his first.  Despite the dashboard plastics, the woman I know loves it because of "how well it drives," because it's "a heck of a fun sedan." 

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2009, 11:21:41 am »
..while Eril & Rrocket are pleasuring themselves  :pimp: in the Windsore Lap Dance Das Kapital of Kanada............sure Rrocket take a minute away from the "pole" &  snap us some pics of the white ONE.......me sure likes the Challenger better.............
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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2009, 12:04:56 pm »
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Agreed.
I was shocked by how well the Chllenger drove. Probably shouldn't be, knowing all the E-Class DNA under the body, but I was.
Made me actually look at the Charger/300 in a different light. Probably a heck of a fun sedan, either or those.

People bash the dashboard plastics as everything that's wrong with American interiors, but the Charger R/T owner I know LOOOOOOOOOVES her car for this reason.

Really?  Why so? 

Of course, I'm sure some people put out Royal Chinette for their fancy dinners and are impressed by it too. 

Maybe I wasn't clear.  Read Erik's post again (the one I was responding to) and then mine--my post doesn't make sense without reading his first.  Despite the dashboard plastics, the woman I know loves it because of "how well it drives," because it's "a heck of a fun sedan." 
Ah, very good.  I 'sit' corrected. 

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2009, 12:57:21 am »
i just ordered a camaro rs from hogan Chev  a couple of weeks ago , delivery in April.
it will be all black v6 standard tranny 20 inch wheels  the only thing i added was a block heater rust proofing and that dura shine coating . out the door $ 31510 plus freight and pdi  and of course taxes
i had also the opportunity to test drive the vehicle the same day and it was what sold me on purchasing the v6 plenty of power for my needs and gas mileage to boot same car only automatic , was impressed with the v6 power , the ride on the highway was excellent as was the acceleration into traffic. there is a noticeable blind spot but the mirrors that were on the car are as good or better then vision wise as my tacoma truck mirrors  , and my neck turns well as a back up to those mirrors. gm did alot of work on the sound of this car and it paid off is it the v8 400 plus horsepower mill no of course not , but it sure snarls upon hard acceleration or a nice grumble when driving away from a stop sign .
i have read a complaint in reviews about tire noise inside the car and wind noise , i experienced none of this, the trunk is a joke but i didn,t buy it to pack up with stuff, the rear seats fold down which gives plenty of room  for golf clubs , hockey eq , groceries ect ect .
i also own as stated above a Toyota Tacoma TRD  crew cab so i use it if i,m loading stuff .
i looked at the challenger at last years auto show , sat in it and left it , sorry to many bad experiences to ever trust that manufacturer again and the dealer network . i test drove a mustang but when a V6 can produce just 9 horsepower less then the ford v8 i,ll go with the less horsepower and better fuel rating , very nice car mind you .
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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2009, 09:13:31 am »
Sounds like a good decision for your wants/needs. Congrats and enjoy your new car in the spring.
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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2009, 09:29:36 am »
i just ordered a camaro rs from hogan Chev  a couple of weeks ago , delivery in April.


What?  Someone owning a Toyota and a GM product?   8)

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2009, 09:34:14 am »
i just ordered a camaro rs from hogan Chev  a couple of weeks ago , delivery in April.


What?  Someone owning a Toyota and a GM product?   8)

Great combo - RS, MT, 20 inchers.... :cheers:

What is usually about that ???
We have Toyota prius, gmc 4x4, and a bmw ragtop
I get the vehicle that fits my needs at the time of purchase  :)

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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2009, 01:16:07 pm »
.....U BLOW HOT & COLD..tho..................... :rofl:.......methinks the Prius woz a mistook............. ;)..quit hangin' out with those "HOLY_WOOD'en" types from TO that have invaded yer town,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :P
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Re: CD Article: 2010 Camaro SS vs 2009 Challenger R/T
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2009, 09:48:00 pm »
What is usually about that ???
We have Toyota prius, gmc 4x4, and a bmw ragtop
I get the vehicle that fits my needs at the time of purchase  :)

That's the way it should be AB...I was being a smart a$$ based upon the conversations around here that seem to be one way or the other.