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Day 1:
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Testfest photo by Greg Wilson
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This week I am driving just one car, I am going to sample at least 14 vehicles and perhaps even more as I attend my first ever Testfest located in Niagara-on-the-lake Ontario. What is Testfest exactly? To summarize quickly: it is a week where all AJAC (Automobile Journalist Association of Canada) members that do regular test drives congregate with the new or substantially new vehicles and test them back-to-back in order to come up with the CCOTY (Canadian Car of The Year) awards. More...
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 07:40:30 am » |
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"Prestige" eh? What a hard life you lead! |
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 08:10:02 am » |
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No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"?  Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z? Jaeger |
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 08:14:28 am » |
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Is this going on right now? Are there fences that the proletariat can peak through? Perhaps I'll swing by and take a look. |
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 12:18:29 pm » |
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Niagara on the lake airport there is securiy but the cars are hitting the road and is on right now and all day weds as well. The R8 is 190k amazing car! |
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 12:38:10 pm » |
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No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"? Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z? Jaeger I suspect the 370Z is not "new or substantially redesigned" enough to qualify?? Wing? |
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 01:09:07 pm » |
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No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"? Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z? Jaeger I suspect the 370Z is not "new or substantially redesigned" enough to qualify?? Wing? But the R8 is? |
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How is it possible that after electricity has traveled through hundreds of miles of power line then hundreds of feet (or yards) of romex in our home, that changing the last three feet of wire with something exotic, expensive (cool looking, and packaged in a pricey box) is going to make a difference?
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 01:18:10 pm » |
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This is not a bloody Job. It is a week of fun. You so lucky to have this position.  |
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 01:21:44 pm » |
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No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"? Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z? Jaeger I suspect the 370Z is not "new or substantially redesigned" enough to qualify?? Wing? I seem to recall the new Z hitting the streets AFTER the Genesis coupe, but I could be wrong. And if the 370Z doesn't qualify as "new or substantially redesigned" relative to the 350Z, I can't imagine what would. New interior, new exterior, new transmissions, substantially revised engine and chassis... etc. Jaeger |
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2009, 01:33:34 pm » |
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The point about the Z is valid, Hyundai presented the Sonata in 06 and won, and presented the car again in 09!!  The Altima has a new hood and bumper, I think it should be entered. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2009, 04:39:53 pm » |
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Yonnnnn another boring day at the office..... Wait what your testing which cars? I think I hate you more then ever.  |
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 04:43:43 pm » |
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..BY WEdnesday this will be WING............................. |
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THERE IS NO CURE FOR "LOTUS"......ONLY TREATMENT.....
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2009, 05:51:59 pm » |
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No 370z in "Sports/Performance (under $50k)"? Camaro, Genesis Coupe, no Z? Jaeger I suspect the 370Z is not "new or substantially redesigned" enough to qualify?? Wing? I seem to recall the new Z hitting the streets AFTER the Genesis coupe, but I could be wrong. And if the 370Z doesn't qualify as "new or substantially redesigned" relative to the 350Z, I can't imagine what would. New interior, new exterior, new transmissions, substantially revised engine and chassis... etc. Jaeger It seems like the 370Z competes in the Convertible category so perhaps the same car can only compete in one category regardless the body style. |
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 09:58:24 pm » |
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The official word from Nissan was that originally there were not enough convertibles entered so they decided to enter the 370z since it was new. They then decided not to enter the 370z coupe since it was very similar as well as budget concerns (it is not cheap to enter cars). |
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 10:53:43 pm » |
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Thanks Wing. I can't say I applaud their choice in entering only the Z convertible, but it was theirs to make.
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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2009, 09:54:42 am » |
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Great day-by-day accounts of what's happening. Well done, wish I were there too!
Anyone want to place their wagers on what they would like to win vs what they think will win? For some of them, my chose might change depending on the engine/trim the manufacturer choose to enter, which I don't know.
SMALL CAR (under $21k)
Hyundai Elantra Touring
Kia Forte Koup
Mazda3
Want to win: Elantra Touring / Think will win: Elantra Touring
SMALL CAR (over $21k)
Honda Insight
Kia Forte
Kia Soul
Mazda3 Sport
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback
Nissan Cube
Volkswagen Golf
Want to win: Golf / Think will win: Golf (if TDI), Mazda3 Sport (would have said Soul if entered in the under $21K category)
FAMILY CAR (under $30k)
Ford Fusion
Subaru Legacy Sedan
Toyota Prius
Volkswagen Golf Wagon TDI
Want to win: Golf Wagon TDI / Think will win: tough between Legacy (value/AWD) and Prius (economy/hatch, slick redesign and improved driving dynamics). Will go Legacy. No Prius. Mmmmm, Legacy. Okay, final vote Prius...
FAMILY CAR (over $30k)
Buick LaCrosse
Ford Fusion Hybrid
Ford Taurus
Want to win: LaCrosse / Think will win: Fusion Hybrid or LaCrosse, will say LaCrosse (if CXS) because despite Ford's excellent hybrid system it's outclassed and undersized here. Taurus has a gi-normous trunk, but doesn't feel as spacious as expected inside nor that special which perhaps is not expected in the 'family' category.
LUXURY CAR (over $50k)
BMW 335d Sedan
Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedan (E 350)
Want to win: 335d / Think will win: 335d
PRESTIGE (over $75k)
Audi R8 5.2 FSI
BMW 7 Series Sedan (750i)
Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid
Porsche Panamera
Want to win: Panamera / Think will win: Panamera (although the efficiency of the S400 is noteable)
SPORTS - PERFORMANCE (under $50k)
Chevrolet Camaro
Ford Taurus SHO
Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Mazdaspeed3
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback Ralliart
Volkswagen Golf GTI
Want to win: Golf GTI / Think will win: MS3 (power, price, and versatility), runner up Genesis Coupe (if V6)
SPORTS - PERFORMANCE (over $50k)
Audi S4
Jaguar XFR
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupe (E 550)
Want to win: S4 / Think will win: XFR, although if price is factored high then S4
CONVERTIBLES
Audi A5 Cabriolet
Lexus IS Convertible (IS350C)
Nissan 370Z Roadster
Want to win: A5 Cabrio / Think will win: A5 Cabrio (best all around)
SUV - CUV (under $35k)
Chevrolet Equinox
Subaru Outback
Toyota Venza
Want to win: Venza (think the raised Camry concept is thoughtful and appealing) / Think will win: Equinox (fuel economy, value)
SUV - CUV ($35k-$60k)
Acura ZDX
Audi Q5
GMC Terrain
Lexus RX 350
Mercedes-Benz GLK350 4MATIC
Volkswagen Touareg TDI Clean Diesel
Volvo XC60
Want to win: RX 350 / Think will win: XC60 (don't ask me why, but it keeps being applauded so I'm on the train)
SUV - CUV (over $60k)
Acura MDX
Audi Q7 TDI
Cadillac SRX
Lexus RX450h
Lincoln MKT
Want to win: Q7 TDI / Think will win: RX 450h
BEST NEW TECHNOLOGY
Attention Assist ??
Audi Drive Select
City Safety
MyKey
Remote Touch
Touch Tracer
Think will win: City Safety
BEST NEW GREEN TECHNOLOGY
Beltless Atkinson-cycle Engine with Cooled Exhaust
Next Generation Hybrid System and SmartGauge
Plant-based Ecological Plastics
S400 Hybrid with Lithium-ion Batteries
Solar Panel Moonroof & Remote Air Conditioning
Think will win: S400 |
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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2009, 12:48:12 pm » |
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SMALL CAR (under $21k)
Hyundai Elantra Touring
Kia Forte Koup
Mazda3
Win: Elantra Touring
SMALL CAR (over $21k)
Honda Insight
Kia Forte
Kia Soul
Mazda3 Sport
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback
Nissan Cube
Volkswagen Golf
Win: the Golf better win
FAMILY CAR (under $30k)
Ford Fusion
Subaru Legacy Sedan
Toyota Prius
Volkswagen Golf Wagon TDI
Win: Golf Wagon TDI
FAMILY CAR (over $30k)
Buick LaCrosse
Ford Fusion Hybrid
Ford Taurus
Win: Fusion Hybrid
LUXURY CAR (over $50k)
BMW 335d Sedan
Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedan (E 350)
Win: 335d
PRESTIGE (over $75k)
Audi R8 5.2 FSI
BMW 7 Series Sedan (750i)
Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid
Porsche Panamera
Win: R8/Panamera
PERFORMANCE (under $50k)
Chevrolet Camaro
Ford Taurus SHO
Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Mazdaspeed3
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback Ralliart
Volkswagen Golf GTI
Win: Camaro? This is gonna be tight.
SPORTS - PERFORMANCE (over $50k)
Audi S4
Jaguar XFR
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupe (E 550)
Win: S4
CONVERTIBLES
Audi A5 Cabriolet
Lexus IS Convertible (IS350C)
Nissan 370Z Roadster
Win: A5
SUV - CUV (under $35k)
Chevrolet Equinox
Subaru Outback
Toyota Venza
Win: Venza?
SUV - CUV ($35k-$60k)
Acura ZDX
Audi Q5
GMC Terrain
Lexus RX 350
Mercedes-Benz GLK350 4MATIC
Volkswagen Touareg TDI Clean Diesel
Volvo XC60
Win: Touareg TDI or XC60 or Q5.
SUV - CUV (over $60k)
Acura MDX
Audi Q7 TDI
Cadillac SRX
Lexus RX450h
Lincoln MKT
Win: Q7 TDI or 450h.
BEST NEW TECHNOLOGY
Attention Assist ??
Audi Drive Select
City Safety
MyKey
Remote Touch
Touch Tracer
Win: City Safety
BEST NEW GREEN TECHNOLOGY
Beltless Atkinson-cycle Engine with Cooled Exhaust
Next Generation Hybrid System and SmartGauge
Plant-based Ecological Plastics
S400 Hybrid with Lithium-ion Batteries
Solar Panel Moonroof & Remote Air Conditioning
Win: S400 by a mile
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2009, 04:01:41 pm » |
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vdk, just an FYI, nobody that I spoke liked the S400 -- I would be completely surprised if it wins. I think the mazda3 is a shoe in for the small car under $21k... enough posts I'll write my blog  |
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2009, 05:06:04 pm » |
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SMALL CAR (under $21k)
Hyundai Elantra Touring
Kia Forte Koup
Mazda3
Win: Elantra Touring
SMALL CAR (over $21k)
Honda Insight
Kia Forte
Kia Soul
Mazda3 Sport
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback
Nissan Cube
Volkswagen Golf
Win: Kia Soul
FAMILY CAR (under $30k)
Ford Fusion
Subaru Legacy Sedan
Toyota Prius
Volkswagen Golf Wagon TDI
Win: Ford Fusion
FAMILY CAR (over $30k)
Buick LaCrosse
Ford Fusion Hybrid
Ford Taurus
Win: Buick LaCrosse
LUXURY CAR (over $50k)
BMW 335d Sedan
Cadillac CTS Sport Wagon
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedan (E 350)
Win: 335d
PRESTIGE (over $75k)
Audi R8 5.2 FSI
BMW 7 Series Sedan (750i)
Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid
Porsche Panamera
Win: R8/Panamera
PERFORMANCE (under $50k)
Chevrolet Camaro
Ford Taurus SHO
Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Mazdaspeed3
Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback Ralliart
Volkswagen Golf GTI
Win: Hyundai Genesis Coupe
SPORTS - PERFORMANCE (over $50k)
Audi S4
Jaguar XFR
Mercedes-Benz E-Class Coupe (E 550)
Win: S4
CONVERTIBLES
Audi A5 Cabriolet
Lexus IS Convertible (IS350C)
Nissan 370Z Roadster
Win: Nissan 370Z Roadster
SUV - CUV (under $35k)
Chevrolet Equinox
Subaru Outback
Toyota Venza
Win: Subaru Outback
SUV - CUV ($35k-$60k)
Acura ZDX
Audi Q5
GMC Terrain
Lexus RX 350
Mercedes-Benz GLK350 4MATIC
Volkswagen Touareg TDI Clean Diesel
Volvo XC60
Win: Volvo XC60
SUV - CUV (over $60k)
Acura MDX
Audi Q7 TDI
Cadillac SRX
Lexus RX450h
Lincoln MKT
Win: Q7 TDI
BEST NEW TECHNOLOGY
Attention Assist ??
Audi Drive Select
City Safety
MyKey
Remote Touch
Touch Tracer
Win:
BEST NEW GREEN TECHNOLOGY
Beltless Atkinson-cycle Engine with Cooled Exhaust
Next Generation Hybrid System and SmartGauge
Plant-based Ecological Plastics
S400 Hybrid with Lithium-ion Batteries
Solar Panel Moonroof & Remote Air Conditioning
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2009, 05:23:04 pm » |
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@wing
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