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« on: October 19, 2009, 05:09:44 am » |
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 First Drive:   Improved interior quality and design, a quieter cabin, a new diesel engine, a new wagon bodystyle, and newly available features are the major highlights of the redesigned Golf and GTI, says CarTalkCanada editor, James Bergeron. More: View the photos | All the First Drives
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2009, 11:20:29 am » |
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2009, 12:08:11 pm » |
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Sounds like a pretty good upgrade from my 2008 GTI. Will have to wait another 2.5 years before the lease is over. Hopefully they will increase the HP by than or offer 4motion, that would be the cherry on top!! |
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Shnak
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2009, 12:55:34 pm » |
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The Golf Wagon TDI w/DSG Comfortline and a few options (ESP, rear air bags, premium audio) is very tempting... only thing missing on that car that I'd really like is dual climate zone. Maybe in a few years when certified pre-owned start showing up...  |
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2009, 12:55:59 pm » |
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*rattle rattle* |
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2009, 02:25:04 pm » |
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Maybe it's the poor qualit of the pics, but those interior shots do not reflect the levle of quality (materials and design) I have come to expect of VW. That dash loos like it could have been extracted from any pedestrian Japanese or Korean econobox.
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2009, 11:20:41 am » |
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Except as you would expect on the VW it is all softtouch. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2009, 11:46:55 am » |
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2009, 05:39:35 pm » |
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Except as you would expect on the VW it is all softtouch.
But who really touches there dash. Dash toucher? |
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2009, 09:57:32 pm » |
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The steering wheel in particular photographs poorly, imho. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2009, 11:32:04 pm » |
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The steering wheel in particular photographs poorly, imho.
I think unless you really set up a shot well, all interior shots make an interior look disappointing tbh. I like the golf, I saw a new GTI out and about today in fact. But I much prefer the Scirocco... http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2010-volkswagen-scirocco.htm |
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2009, 10:09:11 pm » |
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I like it. Very sharp looking car. Can't wait to take one for a spin. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2009, 10:09:58 pm » |
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Agreed. Very nice looking car! |
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2009, 08:07:45 am » |
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Here's a few questions to all recent VW owners... 1) 2.5L owners... how's the real-world fuel mileage? 2) Also, does anyone know if the new generation of TDIs is better at warming up during winter? Our '04 TDIs weren't terrible, but it's night and day compared to our V6 Sportage which warms up within minutes (small engine + not very good consumption = lots of wasted fuel = lots of heat = good in winter!  ) 3) Any worries about the DSG? I've read reports that its even better in the 2010 models than in previous years, but am kind of worried with recent recall on it... See, I'm starting to consider buying a Jetta Wagon in about two years, and am now wondering if the 2.5L does a good enough job, or if TDI is the way to go. I mean, it's $2800 more. Before, when it was the 2.0L vs TDI, it was a no-brainer... but now, the 2.5L has more than enough power and seems reliable... so it's a much tougher question I think. Looking at Golf Wagon DSG Comfortline w/Multimedia Package, Rear side airbags in Blue Graphite Pearl.  I'm not against the sunroof, but at almost $2000, I'd pass. Out of this package, the only thing I'd be missing is the dual zone climate control that the GTI has standard... but I could do without this. |
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2009, 06:11:29 pm » |
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I like the golf, I saw a new GTI out and about today in fact. But I much prefer the Scirocco...
As usual, VW keeps all the cool stuff in Europe. The Scirocco could replace the 3-door GTI and be paired up with the 5-door GTI.  The European Golf as a bunch of cool engines (TSI) and all the models have optional DSG (6 and 7 speed). Here the engines are limited and the DSG is only available on the GTI and the diesels. I guess the "new world" 2.5L is not DSG compatible. Personally, I would get a good old manual. The DSG is an interesting option but I think that it would just stay in the D position after a few weeks. |
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2009, 06:43:02 pm » |
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1) 2.5L owners... how's the real-world fuel mileage?
If you're asking that question, look for a TDI
2) Also, does anyone know if the new generation of TDIs is better at warming up during winter? Our '04 TDIs weren't terrible, but it's night and day compared to our V6 Sportage which warms up within minutes (small engine + not very good consumption = lots of wasted fuel = lots of heat = good in winter! )They're probably even worse as the engine is more efficient.
3) Any worries about the DSG? I've read reports that its even better in the 2010 models than in previous years, but am kind of worried with recent recall on it...Get a stick? AFAIK the only difference is down to software. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2009, 07:15:20 pm » |
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My son said with his 2007 Jetta TDI he has no problems getting warm |
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2009, 07:20:23 pm » |
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My son said with his 2007 Jetta TDI he has no problems getting warm
I don't doubt that. Some people just expect the engine to warm up in .5s. Gas engines take a while to warm up, diesels take a bit more. If you're cold, turn on those heated seats. |
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Shnak
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2009, 08:48:34 pm » |
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It's not being cold I'm worried about... it's seeing out of the windshield!! With our TDIs, we'd be stuck driving with some frost frozen inside of the windshield for a few minutes before it'd go away... that's not ideal, that's for sure. Thanks for answering my question about the real-world fuel mileage...  Oh, and your answer about the DSG reliability was even better... Thanks again! |
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2009, 09:10:58 pm » |
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I think that at this time the DSG is INTRINSICALLY less reliable than a manual transmission and maybe less reliable that a torque converter automatic.
It has a mandatory service, fluid and filter every 64,000 km which is not very long.
It has a lot, more I bet than a conventional auto, of actuators and solenoids and relays all of which have to keep on working.
This is not to say that, maybe, a 2016 version of a DSG won't be more reliable than a current one, probably it will be as a more mature technology then. |
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