Topic: Anyone use "Restore" engine treatment.

[ktm525]

I have to come clean; last night I poured a can of Restore engine treatment into the P1800. I have some compression issues (148/123/122/140). Adding oil for a wet test brought all cylinders up about 15 psi. Staring at a engine removal and complete overhaul I thought I would try a quickie fix until next spring (considering a majot power bump and building a performance B20, 200HP?. We will see how it goes.

Has anyone used this snakeoil?

[mrthompson]

I added a can to my high km Mercury Topaz.  It seemed to make the engine knock a little quieter and it reduced oil consumption.

[safristi]

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[tpl]

Sounds as if it would get rid of wrinkles, zits and cold sores as well.

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[rrocket]

I have to come clean; last night I poured a can of Restore engine treatment into the P1800. I have some compression issues (148/123/122/140). Adding oil for a wet test brought all cylinders up about 15 psi. Staring at a engine removal and complete overhaul I thought I would try a quickie fix until next spring (considering a majot power bump and building a performance B20, 200HP?. We will see how it goes.

Has anyone used this snakeoil?

It works as advertised.  There are posts at BITOG.  Also, somebody at SupraForums had a car that had low compression on one cylinder.  Immediately after the treatment he re-did the compression test and the one cylinder was back up.  I have no idea how long it lasts though.

**Edit...I found the post.  In cylinder #4, he was getting 129 (150-165 is normal).  After the Rislone treatment, that cylinder jumped to 150.  He then did a leakdown test and the previously suspect cylinder was only leaking 5%. So in his case, it was a sticky piston ring. **

Since you did the wet oil test, we can pretty much assume it's your rings.  It might only be stiff/stuck rings.  Have you done a leakdown test??.  Try the Rislone and re-test.  You have nothing to lose.  Also, I would recommend going an Auto-RX treatment.  It's cheap, it's easy (thought you do have to drive the car for about 2500km or so).  I HAVE used Auto-RX (which is very highly thought of at BITOG).  Great product.  http://www.auto-rx.com/

[articsteve]

I installed it in a Honda 4 stroke 200XR I think the model was.  I was trading it in. 

Restore will bring up the compression, reduce the blow bye, but it will damage bearings.  So in the short term it works, but it will lead to total engine failure eventually.

[rrocket]

^^Steve.  I haven't heard or read about that one.  What do you base that one?  The RESTORE I'm talking about doesn't increase the oil viscosity so you continue to get the same film on the bearings.


**EDIT** Even going through the posts at BITOG, there is nothing there saying ti's bad for bearings.

[ktm525]

Yeah I figured it would be a thick gooey honey but what cam out of the can appeared to be the consistancy of a 5w-30. We shall seehow it goes. I would rather not tear into the P1800 engine at this time. I am getting ready to replace the driveline bearing,brackets, and all the suspension bushings. That is enough for now.

[rrocket]

Yeah I figured it would be a thick gooey honey but what cam out of the can appeared to be the consistancy of a 5w-30. We shall seehow it goes. I would rather not tear into the P1800 engine at this time. I am getting ready to replace the driveline bearing,brackets, and all the suspension bushings. That is enough for now.

Yea...like I said..it does not increase viscosity to help with the compression.  I know there's another similar product that Steve may be thinking about that actually has some emulsified metals in it that bond to cylinder wall surfaces...and presumably bearing surfaces...

[articsteve]

Restore "restores" cylinder compression by depositing particles of some sort into scored sections of the cylinder wall. Consequently, compression is increased and blow by is suddenly reduced.  The down side is that these same particles get into the bearing assemblies where it does the opposite.

If I had to increase compression or eliminate lots of blow bye, but didn't want to compromise the crank and cam I'd just go with a LUCAS thickener.

Here is a post on a Ford truck site that IMO, is in the ball park.

Yes, I've used it.

Now I could be off of my rocker, and I have no scientific data, but wht I tell customers who ask about it is that I believe it's a good (to great?) product for an engine that one only expects to last one or two more oil changes (with or without using it).

I certainly wouldn't use it in a slightly worn, but running great, engine I thought I could get 20,000 more miles (or more) out of.

It did seal up my cylinder walls to help the old car stop smoking (burning oil), but then for some reason I developed a bearing knock after the second oil change with it. Maybe it can clog important small oil passages, or maybe it can't, but that's the way I'd expect to use it.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/82151-restore-engine-treatment-anybody-used-it.html

EDIT TYPO:  compression is increased

[articsteve]

I know there's another similar product that Steve may be thinking about that actually has some emulsified metals in it that bond to cylinder wall surfaces...and presumably bearing surfaces...

No, I do mean RESTORE.  It's the snake oil of all snake oils because it will damage motors.  Used extensively in small power sport products like worn out ATVs to mislead buyers, but old ATVs are a bad buy anyways.

If this was my motor, I'd change the oil/filter ASAP.

[rrocket]

Hmmm...I guess my Echo's bearings should have been shot about 100,000kms ago? 

(used this before I used Auto-RX)

Although I think I could pour Drain-O into the Echo and it would be fine...

[johngenx]

Although I think I could pour Drain-O into the Echo and it would be fine...

 

A friend of mine just returned his Echo at the (very long term) lease end, and bought a new Yaris.  My favourite quote about his Echo...

"It barely needs gas.  Hell, I bet I could stuff some wood chips in the tank of this thing would run fine."

[rrocket]

Although I think I could pour Drain-O into the Echo and it would be fine...

 

A friend of mine just returned his Echo at the (very long term) lease end, and bought a new Yaris.  My favourite quote about his Echo...

"It barely needs gas.  Hell, I bet I could stuff some wood chips in the tank of this thing would run fine."

LOL...too funny.  262,000kms on mine and still getting 700+kms per tank....

[shawcross]

  NO DO NOT USE RESTORE ONLY ON NEW ENGINES BECAUSE IF U USE IT ON OLD ENGINE THE PISTION WILL SCRAPE THE CHAMBER THE METAL SCHARDS WILL BE LEFT IN UR IL PAN AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS THE OIL PUMP WILL BE PICKING IT UP OR BE DAMAGES
Has anyone used this snakeoil?


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