Topic: The Effect of Speeding tickets (or lack of)

[loser40]

I live in the UK - I was done for speeding twice in the same day by the same cop on the same road.

First time I was driving south down a country lane mid morning which had a speed limit of 60 MPH - a cop jumped out from behind a tree holding a speed camera and I was doing 70 something so I was stopped and given a ticket.

At least 4 hours later and it had started raining, and I was driving north along the same road at roughly the same speed, I thought to myself he's got better things to do, that cop wont still be there - he was, another ticket.

I had to goto court, the magistrate sniggered at me.

M.

[safristi]

driving while blacked out.......................

[super.jm]

i have some little information about effect of speeding tickets i found this in some site that i research in Google search engine of this little information will help for our readers... "For the study, Lawpoolsri and Li examined data on more than 3.7 million drivers provided by the Maryland Crash Outcome and Data Evaluation System. The study group consisted of 15,814 licensed Maryland drivers who received a speeding citation in May 2002, while the comparison group consisted of 3,724,137 Maryland drivers who did not receive a speeding citation that month. Drivers were tracked from June 2002 to May 2003 for evidence of subsequent speeding citations. “Virtually every driver licensed in Maryland was included in the population that was studied,” says Li. “We excluded only those drivers who had received a speeding ticket in the year before May 2002 in order to avoid spillover effects on behavior from past tickets."
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[Blue01]

Nobody likes getting a speeding ticket, or a ticket for any traffic offence, and many people use the line "why aren't the cops out catching the real criminals??
Well, that's a good question, sometimes, but I wonder at what point do the cops stop giving out traffic fines?  Should the cops stop traffic enforcement, should the Highways Dept. take down all the traffic control signs, stop signs, traffic lights, no parking signs?  Maybe even stop enforcing seatbelt laws, maybe even stop roadside checks for impaired drivers?
Should we start "policeing" ourselves?

Does anyone have an answer as to when and where they draw the line on enforcement?

If you don't like traffic tickets, then either don't offend, or take your chances, like most of us do, and therefore take your lumps if you get caught.
After all, traffic fines to me are a voluntary tax, just like gambling.  It all goes into the same pot and some gov't woker gets to spend it, on our behalf.
I don't gamble, and I never speed get caught.

[dr_spock]

I don't gamble, and I never speed get caught.

Aren't you gambling on that you won't get caught?   

[vdk]

I don't gamble, and I never speed get caught.

Aren't you gambling on that you won't get caught?   

It's not gambling if you know you'll win. 

[tpl]

Nobody likes getting a speeding ticket, or a ticket for any traffic offence, and many people use the line "why aren't the cops out catching the real criminals??
Well, that's a good question, sometimes, but I wonder at what point do the cops stop giving out traffic fines?  Should the cops stop traffic enforcement, should the Highways Dept. take down all the traffic control signs, stop signs, traffic lights, no parking signs?  Maybe even stop enforcing seatbelt laws, maybe even stop roadside checks for impaired drivers?
Should we start "policeing" ourselves?

Does anyone have an answer as to when and where they draw the line on enforcement?

If you don't like traffic tickets, then either don't offend, or take your chances, like most of us do, and therefore take your lumps if you get caught.
After all, traffic fines to me are a voluntary tax, just like gambling.  It all goes into the same pot and some gov't worker gets to spend it, on our behalf.
I don't gamble, and I never speed get caught.

No the police should NOT give up on any of the ticketing.    The politicians and their Highway depts should replace some stop signs and stop lights with roundabouts and/or  yield signs,  Synchronize some lights, do  the McKenzie thing and make sure the right lane never goes away with some paint AND set the speed limits to a speed that 85% of the drivers stick to.   The last one is important... it might mean as high as 140 on some expressways and 110 on 2 laners. It might mean different limits winter/summer. 
If they were really brave they'd make the driving test a lot stiffer and also have annual safety checks on cars and light trucks... but of course they'd have to be REALLY brave to even mention that in public.

[Arctic_White]

I'm all up for a much stiffer road test.

[toolatecrew]

I don't have any problem with tickets for breaking the law. I have a problem with when the laws simply don't reflect the reality of society. When was the last time anyone did a through study on individual highways of the average or median speed? If you want to have speed limits fine. Don't make them subject to the judgment of police. Its kind of commonly accepted that if you are 110 or under in a 100 and 120 or under in a 110 you will be OK. Traffic obviously moves much faster than 100 on many highways. The biggest cause of accidents is not exceeding the limit its speed differential.

Statistically it makes sense that if you raised the limit to the average speed and enforced that limit tightly not only would you write fewer tiockets but you'd also reduce speed differential accidents. Everyone wins. Except for the Chicken littles who are convinced that we should all drive at 2MPH in tanks with a video comera over our shoulder with someone with a kill switcvh oj the other end in case we misbehave .

[random006]

I don't have any problem with tickets for breaking the law. I have a problem with when the laws simply don't reflect the reality of society. When was the last time anyone did a through study on individual highways of the average or median speed? If you want to have speed limits fine. Don't make them subject to the judgment of police. Its kind of commonly accepted that if you are 110 or under in a 100 and 120 or under in a 110 you will be OK. Traffic obviously moves much faster than 100 on many highways. The biggest cause of accidents is not exceeding the limit its speed differential.

Statistically it makes sense that if you raised the limit to the average speed and enforced that limit tightly not only would you write fewer tiockets but you'd also reduce speed differential accidents. Everyone wins. Except for the Chicken littles who are convinced that we should all drive at 2MPH in tanks with a video comera over our shoulder with someone with a kill switcvh oj the other end in case we misbehave .

The problem with that logic is that is assumes two things:

1:   That the current crop of speeders cap their personal limit based only on their comfort zone and not on any other factors.  We have to look at why those limits exist in the first place.  It could be any of:

• safety
• enforced gasoline conservation
• standardization with neighbouring regions
• the actual limits of the given section of highway
• something else...

2:   That those same speeders would not speed up to again be faster than the stated limit.  So, if the speed limit is raised to the "commonly accepted" 110 Km/h, the bulk of fast driving types would be going 125 Km/h .  Certainly that was my experience when first encountering the super highways of New Brunswick many years back.  The signs said 110, while the traffic did 120 - 125.


I don't know what the functional limitations of road design are but on many of our major highways there are long sections on which a speed in excess of 150 Km/h is done quite easily without too much risk for even the moderately experienced driver.  It seems to me that there will always be those will speed regardless of the posted limit.

[blur911]

While driving home from work last week I took part in an interesting effect on speeding. 
I was in a line of 5 or 6 cars doing about 115-120kph when we were passed by an OPP SUV and a Crown Vic cruiser,  we all sped up to 125-130kph to keep up with the police, from a polite distance of course.  Traveled this way for about 25km to my exit.

[quadzilla]

While driving home from work last week I took part in an interesting effect on speeding. 
I was in a line of 5 or 6 cars doing about 115-120kph when we were passed by an OPP SUV and a Crown Vic cruiser,  we all sped up to 125-130kph to keep up with the police, from a polite distance of course.  Traveled this way for about 25km to my exit.

Isn't that interesting. When people see a OPP parked on the side of the highway going zero KPH they all put on their brakes. I guess the cops do adjust the rate of speed