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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2009, 06:28:37 pm » |
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I'd take a real manual or a DSG... M3 (although I haven't been fortunate enough to drive it).
Corvette....
Or a Shelby GT500 and a motorcyle! BTW...tried to drive a GT500...no dice...I have to buy the car first!
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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2009, 06:30:24 pm » |
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Dumb but typical -- yet you could go drive an IS-F or something much more expensive with no hassles. |
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2009, 07:12:16 pm » |
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Dumb but typical -- yet you could go drive an IS-F or something much more expensive with no hassles.
Yeah, I've never understood that either. The local Mazda dealer won't let me test-drive a Mazdaspeed3, yet the local Mercedes dealer didn't blink an eye at me test-driving multiple versions of the C-Class that cost 50% more. |
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2009, 07:15:44 pm » |
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Hello Wing,
Now that you have been driving this car for a few days, do you think that it is worth the price Lexus is asking for? or would you rather take your money to the competition (ie. MB, BMW, Audi, Infinity) ? Thanks in advance.
Infiniti has no competition for the IS -F, and until the next-generation RS4 is revealed, neither does Audi. Why is the current RS4 not competition? |
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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2009, 10:08:08 pm » |
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Hello Wing,
Now that you have been driving this car for a few days, do you think that it is worth the price Lexus is asking for? or would you rather take your money to the competition (ie. MB, BMW, Audi, Infinity) ? Thanks in advance.
Infiniti has no competition for the IS -F, and until the next-generation RS4 is revealed, neither does Audi. Why is the current RS4 not competition? IIMO it's no competition based purely on price. Over here, the RS4 is approx. $90K !!!! |
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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2009, 10:44:11 pm » |
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Why is the current RS4 not competition?
Because there's not actually a "current RS4." At least in the States, the B7 RS4 hasn't been on sale since model year 2008. |
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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2009, 11:35:13 pm » |
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IIMO it's no competition based purely on price. Over here, the RS4 is approx. $90K !!!!
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« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2009, 09:10:09 am » |
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..not enuf perceived BANG fer the buck IMHO......fake exhaust tips....shared looks with the $30K model...............and those seats.....  ...don't switch em to LOW.............. |
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« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2009, 09:33:04 am » |
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The exhaust isn't fake saf only the pre-production had fake exhaust. |
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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2009, 09:34:04 am » |
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..and the fake room  ??  ..just read a report where they still talk about the Chromed tips just leading to a regular exhaust......not a honking Can Am tube essence..... |
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« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2009, 11:37:02 am » |
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Hello Wing,
Now that you have been driving this car for a few days, do you think that it is worth the price Lexus is asking for? or would you rather take your money to the competition (ie. MB, BMW, Audi, Infinity) ? Thanks in advance.
Infiniti has no competition for the IS -F, and until the next-generation RS4 is revealed, neither does Audi. The more important thing is Lexus has no competition for the G37 coupe. The IS-F is a very niche vehicle, more so than the M3. Don't think the likes of the Infiniti/BMW/Audi are concern with putting out a car to match it. That say, the aftermarket can mod an existing car to match the IS-F for those who want something in a sexier body-shell. |
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« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2009, 12:57:21 pm » |
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« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2009, 12:58:38 pm » |
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You've seen too many movies ... they are NOT real! Show some numbers to prove your words.  |
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« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2009, 02:47:57 pm » |
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IIMO it's no competition based purely on price. Over here, the RS4 is approx. $90K !!!!
I thought you cross-shopped everything, even if there was a price difference or even if it was a different category of vehicle? Yet when there's a 25% price difference between two 420 horsepower V8 high-performance luxury sedans, there's "no competition"? Wouldn't it be worth at least checking out both to see what each offer? Regardless, for the next-generation, it looks like Audi will price its RS4 more in line with the competition. The next-gen Audi S4 will sell for $45,900 in the States (url=http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/14/audi-prices-2010-s4-in-u-s-from-45-900/]source[/url]), only $3,000 more than a 335xi (if I recall correctly, the B7 S4 was halfway between the 335i and M3 in price). I suspect that the next-gen RS4 and RS5 will be just a few thousand more expensive than an M3, which seems fair to me considering the AWD and the better standard equipment Audi typically gives you. |
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« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2009, 08:25:54 pm » |
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The RS5 will be stunning in every way...  |
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« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2009, 09:41:20 pm » |
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IIMO it's no competition based purely on price. Over here, the RS4 is approx. $90K !!!!
I thought you cross-shopped everything, even if there was a price difference or even if it was a different category of vehicle? Yet when there's a 25% price difference between two 420 horsepower V8 high-performance luxury sedans, there's "no competition"? Wouldn't it be worth at least checking out both to see what each offer? In the US, the RS4 is at least "in the ball park" to consider it with it's peers. I have no idea why it goes out of the ball park and into the ocean here....(it was $94,000 here!) Sure you'd cross shop all....but getting into the $95,000 range is a HUGE leap. My price quote on an IS-F was $62,000. At that level, we're talking a nearly 50% premium for the RS4. Not to mention there are better cars to consider for that kind money (Just for starters, GT-R is $6K less or so). What was the RS4 in the US? $70ish? |
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« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2009, 10:36:23 pm » |
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What was the RS4 in the US? $70ish?
Started at $66,910. About $10k more than the starting prices for the M3 and IS-F, though the AWD was partly responsible for that and it had better standard equipment than the M3. It was expensive for the class, but still in the same ballpark (unlike in Canada). |
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« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2009, 11:43:21 pm » |
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You'll not believe the price of the vehicle I am driving next week. RS4 will seem like a bargain of the century! |
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« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2009, 12:45:50 am » |
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^^ Chevy Volt @ Full Retail?
Just read day 3 driving impressions, sound like the IS-F needs a good old fashion 6-speed manual. |
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« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2009, 01:56:04 am » |
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Just read day 3 driving impressions, sound like the IS-F needs a good old fashion 6-speed manual.
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