Author Topic: CTC Review: 2010 Kia Soul 4u Burner (Read 10479 times)

wing · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:38:56 am »

I haven't been on the highway yet but I will this weekend.

initial_D · « **Reply #21 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:55:17 am »

So far the Soul is a City Run-about Vehicle only?

Quote from: inco on July 31, 2009, 10:26:24 am

James - curious as to what the engine is turning when on the highway at 100 kph?

I really like this little guy and only wish AWD was an option and then it would be perfect, okay almost, because a bigger engine never hurts.

Hmmm, bigger engine, awd, more interior space, ... bigger tires & wheels ... has some grown up to do then.

Shnak · « **Reply #22 on:** July 31, 2009, 11:21:27 am »

Who's saying anything about more interior space? It already offers more usable space than anything else similar (Fit, Accent, Rio, Versa, Yaris, etc.)

I'm sure the 2.0L is just fine, but I'd like to see the new 2.0L they've put in the Forte instead. And if anything, its wheels are too big. The 16" that come with the 2u are perfect for this size.

The only things I'd like to see are telescopic steering and AWD as an option. Other than that, I don't see anything else missing.

initial_D · « **Reply #23 on:** July 31, 2009, 11:51:03 am »

Quote from: Shnak on July 31, 2009, 11:21:27 am

Who's saying anything about more interior space? It already offers more usable space than anything else similar (Fit, Accent, Rio, Versa, Yaris, etc.)

I'm sure the 2.0L is just fine, but I'd like to see the new 2.0L they've put in the Forte instead. And if anything, its wheels are too big. The 16" that come with the 2u are perfect for this size.

The only things I'd like to see are telescopic steering and AWD as an option. Other than that, I don't see anything else missing.

Who's saying anything about more interior space? ...

I did. ... and it need 19 inchers!

Spec5 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2009, 12:33:23 pm »

I think the 18s are there for the highschool/college crowd - although at that price I agree with most that I'd probably look for something else with a bit more jam to it. I mean the thing has LEDs in the speakers - so right there that tells you who they're marketing the Burner edition to. $24k eh? How close is that to an Impreza hatchback?

It is nice to see Kia (and Hyundai) finally get some respect. They've been making reliable vehicles for a few years now - now we're starting to see some interesting ones.

safristi · « **Reply #25 on:** July 31, 2009, 12:37:53 pm »

..it looks like the CRAPPANOOGA Choo CHOO on TRACK # 69................toot toot......

carcrazy · « **Reply #26 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:08:10 pm »

Now that I took a closer look at it, I think the "cool" factor is kind of skin deep.
Cheap, old platform (Rio), old engine, old 4AT...The standard BT, remote audi-controls, heated mirrors and seats, USB port and the glowing speakers cannot really compensate for all of that, at least as far as I'm concerned.

Ontariodriver · « **Reply #27 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:46:42 pm »

I keep thinking it is a clone.

But it is big bright and fancy interior and cheap and look like a station wagon and should sell well base on those merits.

I have to ask wing. The main complaints I've heard is that it has a harsh ride and noisy engine so does it?

wing · « **Reply #28 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:48:18 pm »

The ride is just fine, the engine is a bit grumbly.

safristi · « **Reply #29 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:56:21 pm »

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G0dspd · « **Reply #30 on:** August 01, 2009, 05:41:55 pm »

Quote from: carcrazy on July 31, 2009, 01:08:10 pm

Now that I took a closer look at it, I think the "cool" factor is kind of skin deep.
Cheap, old platform (Rio), old engine, old 4AT...The standard BT, remote audi-controls, heated mirrors and seats, USB port and the glowing speakers cannot really compensate for all of that, at least as far as I'm concerned.

It has a heavily modified Rio platform. It's not "new", but like most manufacturer, KIA modified an existing chassis to keep the cost down. The engine is a bit dated and the AT could use a fifth gear (I would take the MT) but it's not bad hardware. We're talking about KIA here ... not a new BMW.

The interior is not luxurious but it's far from cheap. The heated seats, heated mirrors and Bluetooth come standard. For just under 18 000$ (MT), you get ABS, ESC, TCS and 6 air bags (seat+curtain).

wing · « **Reply #31 on:** August 01, 2009, 07:10:50 pm »

3000 rpm at 120km/h not bad!

Spec5 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 01, 2009, 10:12:29 pm »

It blows my mind in this day and age that not all cars have a 5speed auto - all manufacturer's have them in other cars - so why not use them exclusively (unless they have 6 or 7 speeds in their pricier models)? I would think it would save costs and improve economy and power.

carcrazy · « **Reply #33 on:** August 02, 2009, 11:10:19 pm »

Quote from: G0dspd on August 01, 2009, 05:41:55 pm

Quote from: carcrazy on July 31, 2009, 01:08:10 pm
Now that I took a closer look at it, I think the "cool" factor is kind of skin deep.
Cheap, old platform (Rio), old engine, old 4AT...The standard BT, remote audi-controls, heated mirrors and seats, USB port and the glowing speakers cannot really compensate for all of that, at least as far as I'm concerned.

It has a heavily modified Rio platform. It's not "new", but like most manufacturer, KIA modified an existing chassis to keep the cost down. The engine is a bit dated and the AT could use a fifth gear (I would take the MT) but it's not bad hardware. We're talking about KIA here ... not a new BMW.

That's exactly my point: it's still a Kia. I would've expected them to move up on the ladder with every new car. I know they are not the only company still offering 4AT and iron block engines, but still... Toyota can afford for now to still offer 4AT in cars like Yaris, Corolla and RAV4, but Kia should try to better the competition at least on paper.

Jaeger · « **Reply #34 on:** August 03, 2009, 10:51:35 am »

Quote from: Spec5 on August 01, 2009, 10:12:29 pm

It blows my mind in this day and age that not all cars have a 5speed auto - all manufacturer's have them in other cars - so why not use them exclusively (unless they have 6 or 7 speeds in their pricier models)? I would think it would save costs and improve economy and power.

The retro-tech 4-speed would be a deal-breaker for me, were I shopping for an automatic. Thankfully there's a manual, which is what I would opt for in any event.

Jaeger

inco · « **Reply #35 on:** August 03, 2009, 12:25:10 pm »

Our grand pubbah must be away and enjoying the Soul so much that he isn't posting any updates. Where is Day 4 and 5 reports and now we are into day 6 already.

initial_D · « **Reply #36 on:** August 03, 2009, 12:29:53 pm »

Think he is having problems with his Browser, keeps crashing.

wing · « **Reply #37 on:** August 03, 2009, 12:36:56 pm »

Today is a holiday we did not publish today.

carsncars · « **Reply #38 on:** August 03, 2009, 02:53:58 pm »

Happy BC Day.

carcrazy · « **Reply #39 on:** August 03, 2009, 11:39:18 pm »

8.4L/100 km on the highway is nothing to write about I believe. There are plenty of V6 SUVs, bigger and more powerfull that can do that or better.