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With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« on: July 10, 2009, 10:19:19 am »
I must admit this whole bad GM/good GM feels like a scam to me but I am sure it can't be if Saint Obama is involved.


DETROIT (Reuters) - A new General Motors emerged from bankruptcy protection on Friday, far more quickly than most industry watchers had expected, as a leaner automaker aiming to win back American consumers and pay back taxpayers.

A whirlwind 40-day bankruptcy for GM concluded with the closing of a deal that sold key operations and core brands, including Chevrolet and Cadillac, to a new company that will be majority owned by the U.S. Treasury.

The deal was signed between the government and GM executives at the law firm of Weil, Gotshal & Manges, the company's chief bankruptcy counsel, a source familiar with the company said.

Industry analysts viewed the brevity of the bankruptcy as a positive development.

"I think that this type of case would not do well in a long Chapter 11," said attorney Richard Mikels, head of the bankruptcy practice at Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo. "The negatives to the business are reduced significantly by getting these companies out of Chapter 11 as rapidly as possible, and therefore the Chapter 11 process has worked in the manner (it) is supposed to because you have quickly a new entity that is free of the overhang of the old GM."

Chief Executive Fritz Henderson and Ed Whitacre, a veteran telecommunications executive and incoming chairman, were set to appear at a news conference 9:00 a.m. ET at the automaker's Detroit headquarters to mark the launch of the new company.

The automaker's U.S. sales dropped 36 percent during June when it was mired in bankruptcy, and executives said the relaunch of the company had offered a chance to try to break that negative association for consumers.

"I'm very much looking forward to the point where we're operating in the clean air and the name of the company not being associated with bankruptcy," GM sales chief Mark LaNeve said on Thursday.

Henderson, who took over as CEO when predecessor Rick Wagoner was ousted by the Obama administration at the end of March, has already detailed plans for a faster-moving and less-bureaucratic company with thinner executive ranks.

GM is cutting its white-collar work force by more than 20 percent by eliminating 6,000 jobs by October. The reduction in executive ranks will slice deeper, with 35 percent planned.

That bid to shake up GM's long-criticized corporate culture will be a key issue for Henderson as the 100-year-old automaker seeks to relaunch itself.

Steve Rattner, the head of the Obama administration's autos task force, said earlier this week that it would be "natural" for Henderson to cut layers of management to make the company "a bit closer to the ground, leaner and meaner."

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Another pillar of the plan is GM's commitment to launch more fuel-efficient cars and to focus its resources on fewer brands, models and dealerships.

"I'm still cautiously optimistic -- they still need to put a product out there that everyone is excited about purchasing," said Pete Hastings, senior vice president and fixed-income analyst at Morgan Keegan. "The legacy costs are gone; the challenge in the future is how to approach a marketplace that has been burned by GM."

GM has burned through $40 billion over the past four years and posted losses of more than $80 billion.

The close of the court-approved sale marks the completion of an unprecedented effort by the U.S. administration to save GM and Chrysler from liquidation by slashing debt, labor costs and dealerships.

The White House has also disbursed almost $80 billion to shore up the auto industry, including $5 billion in support for auto parts suppliers.

Of the total, $50 billion has been earmarked for GM, emergency financing that will give the U.S. government a more than 60 percent stake in the new GM.

Chrysler exited bankruptcy a month ago after blazing a precedent-setting trail for GM by following an asset sale plan that gave operational control of the smaller automaker to Italy's Fiat SpA.

Both Chrysler and GM hived off their best assets as a means of creating new structures apart from the previous companies that were bankrupt. It will take years to sell off the companies' remaining assets through bankruptcy court proceedings.

As part of the changes to be announced on Friday, Bob Lutz, GM's outspoken and high-profile former product chief, has agreed to stay on in a new position, a person with direct knowledge of the plan said.

Lutz, 77, had earlier announced plans to retire at the end of the year.

The new GM will have slashed its debt and healthcare obligations by $48 billion, dropped almost 40 percent of the dealers from an unprofitable network and moved to cut loose laggard brands such as Saab, Saturn and Hummer.

The new GM will also take advantage of a new labor contract with the UAW that the company says will put its hourly operating costs on par with Japanese competitors led by Toyota Motor Corp.
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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 10:53:53 am »
Here is another link to the story:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170&sid=aK95yo8YeleM

What really shocks me is now the "new" GM brings back a 77 year old Bob Lutz, the man who instead of bring out a car that could compete with the Corolla brought us the new millennium version of chrome and tail fins.

The results remain to be seen. But can Lutz really grasp reality beyond a seven litre V-8? I for one doubt it.

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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 10:53:59 am »
Here's hoping it's onward and upward with a lot of great cars in the future.
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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 11:01:39 am »

What really shocks me is now the "new" GM brings back a 77 year old Bob Lutz, the man who instead of bring out a car that could compete with the Corolla brought us the new millennium version of chrome and tail fins.

The results remain to be seen. But can Lutz really grasp reality beyond a seven litre V-8? I for one doubt it.

Huh?
Lutz was the guy who put quality back into GM products. Just have to sit in a Malibu to see what Lutz is about.

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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 12:17:31 pm »

What really shocks me is now the "new" GM brings back a 77 year old Bob Lutz, the man who instead of bring out a car that could compete with the Corolla brought us the new millennium version of chrome and tail fins.

The results remain to be seen. But can Lutz really grasp reality beyond a seven litre V-8? I for one doubt it.

Huh?
Lutz was the guy who put quality back into GM products. Just have to sit in a Malibu to see what Lutz is about.

Agree w Erik, Lutz is a good man for GM. Wagoner, not so good.

Interesting that the US taxpayer now owns some 62% of GM, the Cdn taxpayer some 11.7%, and the UAW some 17%. All the private shareholders are gone, licking their wounds and will be filing for an income tax capital loss (assumed).

I do hope the "new" GM makes it, but it will take a long time to happen. I don't think the NA car market will see 17 million units/year again for a good while yet.
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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 12:34:46 pm »
I must admit this whole bad GM/good GM feels like a scam to me but I am sure it can't be if Saint Obama is involved.


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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 12:41:27 pm »

What really shocks me is now the "new" GM brings back a 77 year old Bob Lutz, the man who instead of bring out a car that could compete with the Corolla brought us the new millennium version of chrome and tail fins.

The results remain to be seen. But can Lutz really grasp reality beyond a seven litre V-8? I for one doubt it.

Huh?
Lutz was the guy who put quality back into GM products. Just have to sit in a Malibu to see what Lutz is about.

Agree w Erik, Lutz is a good man for GM. Wagoner, not so good.

Interesting that the US taxpayer now owns some 62% of GM, the Cdn taxpayer some 11.7%, and the UAW some 17%. All the private shareholders are gone, licking their wounds and will be filing for an income tax capital loss (assumed).

I do hope the "new" GM makes it, but it will take a long time to happen. I don't think the NA car market will see 17 million units/year again for a good while yet.

Here's hoping we see Lutz 2.0 vehicles that get the car market going.
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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2009, 12:41:51 pm »
I must admit this whole bad GM/good GM feels like a scam to me but I am sure it can't be if Saint Obama is involved.


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I am neither fortunately but it still feels like one of these plans JUST LIKE the things that got us into the financial collapse of 2008.  You know, a financial deal invented by the "Master of the Universe" on Wall st.
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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2009, 01:50:46 pm »
Fritz grabbed Cadillac, Chevy, Buick & GMC and ran like a Hobo stealing a sweet-potato pie  ;D
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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 01:41:42 pm »
Interesting that the US taxpayer now owns some 62% of GM, the Cdn taxpayer some 11.7%, and the UAW some 17%. All the private shareholders are gone, licking their wounds and will be filing for an income tax capital loss (assumed).

I do hope the "new" GM makes it, but it will take a long time to happen. I don't think the NA car market will see 17 million units/year again for a good while yet.

That adds up to just over 90%.  What about the other 9.3%?

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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 02:37:34 pm »
Interesting that the US taxpayer now owns some 62% of GM, the Cdn taxpayer some 11.7%, and the UAW some 17%. All the private shareholders are gone, licking their wounds and will be filing for an income tax capital loss (assumed).

I do hope the "new" GM makes it, but it will take a long time to happen. I don't think the NA car market will see 17 million units/year again for a good while yet.

That adds up to just over 90%.  What about the other 9.3%?

I knew it was less than 100% when I posted it. Didn't do the research to see about the remaining s'holders but will do when I get time.

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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2009, 02:43:58 pm »
The exact percentages for the "new" GM are:
US govt - 60.8%
UAW - 17.5%
Cdn/Ont govts - 11.7% and
"Motors Liquidation" - 10.0%.

This adds to 100.0%.

"Motors Liquidation" is the "old GM".

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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2009, 03:24:52 pm »

What really shocks me is now the "new" GM brings back a 77 year old Bob Lutz, the man who instead of bring out a car that could compete with the Corolla brought us the new millennium version of chrome and tail fins.

The results remain to be seen. But can Lutz really grasp reality beyond a seven litre V-8? I for one doubt it.

Huh?
Lutz was the guy who put quality back into GM products. Just have to sit in a Malibu to see what Lutz is about.

HO is right...and so is Erik.  The Malibu under Lutz is good...but like HO said...Lutz failed to grasp how important having a very good Corolla/Civic fighter was.

But methinks Lutz will be answering to the whims of Obama and his lackeys anyways...
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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2009, 05:41:03 pm »
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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 08:02:50 pm »

What really shocks me is now the "new" GM brings back a 77 year old Bob Lutz, the man who instead of bring out a car that could compete with the Corolla brought us the new millennium version of chrome and tail fins.

The results remain to be seen. But can Lutz really grasp reality beyond a seven litre V-8? I for one doubt it.



Huh?
Lutz was the guy who put quality back into GM products. Just have to sit in a Malibu to see what Lutz is about.

HO is right...and so is Erik.  The Malibu under Lutz is good...but like HO said...Lutz failed to grasp how important having a very good Corolla/Civic fighter was.

But methinks Lutz will be answering to the whims of Obama and his lackeys anyways...

Lutz did get how important a good Corolla fighter was. The Cobalt was pretty well in place by the time he got there. Hpwever, it was a HUGE step up from Cavalier (not discounting the fact that the Cavalier was VERY long in the tooth) and, according to the road tests when intro'd, was comparable to the Jetta of it's time in terms of ride, handling, NVH, etc. The platform has shown itself to be very capable, with the SS being an incredibly capable performance coupe.

 The only compact Corolla/Civic fighter that he really had a lot of input into was the Cruze, which looks great and sounds like it will be a very competent car.
The Cobalt has actually sold fairly well for GM. With a maximum capacity of 250,000, GM was cranking out over 200,000 a year of these things, so it is not like it has been a dud for GM.


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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2009, 08:15:08 pm »
I don't think they failed to grasp it. What they knew (or believed) is they could not make money on it and US gasoline is inexpensive, so did not put as much resources behind it... and when they were, it was unfortunately geared toward 'how inexpensive can we make it so we could potentially make money' which of course just backfires and they have to discount them massively to sell, which when combined with the product itself designed to a price, just further hurt their reputation.
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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2009, 08:21:50 pm »





Lutz did get how important a good Corolla fighter was
. The Cobalt was pretty well in place by the time he got there. Hpwever, it was a HUGE step up from Cavalier (not discounting the fact that the Cavalier was VERY long in the tooth) and, according to the road tests when intro'd, was comparable to the Jetta of it's time in terms of ride, handling, NVH, etc. The platform has shown itself to be very capable, with the SS being an incredibly capable performance coupe.

 The only compact Corolla/Civic fighter that he really had a lot of input into was the Cruze, which looks great and sounds like it will be a very competent car.
The Cobalt has actually sold fairly well for GM. With a maximum capacity of 250,000, GM was cranking out over 200,000 a year of these things, so it is not like it has been a dud for GM.


Maybe.  But that didn't translate into a car that competed well with the imports, let alone steal sales from them.  And that's what GM needs.  To pull market share back from the imports instead of losing ground...

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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2009, 08:44:31 pm »


Maybe.  But that didn't translate into a car that competed well with the imports, let alone steal sales from them.  And that's what GM needs.  To pull market share back from the imports instead of losing ground...

True.
It appears to me, however, that if Chevy only had a maximum capacity of 250K units per year, they obviously did not see this car as a make or break one for them.
 Then again, when production plans for this car went into place (2000), gas was still dropping to historical low levels (I remember buying gas at 79.9 a gallon in the states then) and truck sales totally eclipsing car sales, especially small car sales. If I remember correctly, in 2000, trucks made up 7 out of 10 vehicles in the US top sales list, and the number 2 truck (Silverado) outsold all the cars on the list combined. No ones crystal ball showed where gas prices were going (including Toyota, who was designing bigger and bigger trucks then too).

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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2009, 08:49:34 pm »

True.
It appears to me, however, that if Chevy only had a maximum capacity of 250K units per year, they obviously did not see this car as a make or break one for them.
 Then again, when production plans for this car went into place (2000), gas was still dropping to historical low levels (I remember buying gas at 79.9 a gallon in the states then) and truck sales totally eclipsing car sales, especially small car sales. If I remember correctly, in 2000, trucks made up 7 out of 10 vehicles in the US top sales list, and the number 2 truck (Silverado) outsold all the cars on the list combined. No ones crystal ball showed where gas prices were going (including Toyota, who was designing bigger and bigger trucks then too).

Which was a big problem, IMO.  In 2000, Toyota didn't have a true full size truck, and neither did Honda (Honda still doesn't).  Yet they were stealing sales away from GM..and continued to do so for years.  And not only stealing sales, but having record profits, too.  How did they do it?  With competent, reliable small and mid-size cars. 

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Re: With good assets sold, "New GM" exits bankruptcy
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2009, 10:33:55 pm »

The Cobalt has actually sold fairly well for GM. With a maximum capacity of 250,000, GM was cranking out over 200,000 a year of these things, so it is not like it has been a dud for GM.



Not a reasonable measure.Unless you reveal the high % of Cobalts that went into fleets at little to no profit,the large number of Cobalts sold with huge incentives that resulted in a loss, 0% financing ,inflated residuals or subvented lease rates.

Big sales numbers don't equal "sucess" without a context.

Its not the same becuase they were trying to build a base but Sony sold millions of PS3s and lost $ on everyone. Millions of sales didn't mean it was sucessful now does it if they lost $ on ever single one now does it?