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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 06:11:21 pm » |
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More JDP 90-day stuff......talk to me in 3 or 4 years; then I might put some value in this report.  EDIT - added TTAC websites take on the JDP 90 day stuff, same as my feelings: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/jd-power-initial-quality-survey-2009-arrives/ |
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2009, 07:20:02 pm » |
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2009, 07:52:20 pm » |
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These ratings don't really mean much. People tend to be pretty happy in the first 90 days of their new car. |
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2009, 09:15:14 pm » |
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Considering that most people don't know anything about cars...yes this list is worthless. |
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2009, 09:39:41 pm » |
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Do you even keep cars for 3 or 4 years?? Considering 90 days is about how long you normally keep cars, I would 've thought that you'd appreciate this 90-day study of quality...  |
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2009, 10:25:08 pm » |
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2009, 10:50:49 pm » |
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Yea. 90 days initial quality means little to me. Sure you might find a few bugs in the first 90 days that are covered by warranty. But it's the 3 and 5 year studies that mean the most to me. That's when any issues that occur are usually out of pocket expenses. |
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2009, 06:31:26 am » |
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I have to agree that this JD Power thing is pretty useless. For example, I see Mini finished last and yet CR rates it as "Good" and gives it a "recommended" rating. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2009, 10:57:07 am » |
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Initial quality? It might a decent indicator of how well the assembly plant screws down the car. Long term reliability is more important since most people care what happens AFTER the warranty expires. |
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2009, 11:00:59 am » |
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I like how every year, JD Power releases the initial quality survey, and every year, the exact same discussion occurs on CTC  |
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2009, 11:15:49 am » |
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I like how every year, JD Power releases the initial quality survey, and every year, the exact same discussion occurs on CTC Let the fun begin.  |
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2009, 11:28:38 am » |
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2009, 11:40:08 am » |
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I like how every year, JD Power releases the initial quality survey, and every year, the exact same discussion occurs on CTC Yep, it's because ppl have such short attention spans in today's world on instant internet discussion. OTOH, no one reads anything anymore. |
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2009, 12:22:00 pm » |
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Sorry, what was that? |
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2009, 12:44:45 pm » |
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How JD Power comes up with these Initial Quality ratings is beyond me. The numbers make no sense at all, for example Porsche. It gets a perfect 5 out of 5 in overall quality, yet in 3 out 4 categories it gets less than that, in the mechanical category it only gets 2 out of 5. How the hell does that add up to a perfect score?   VW scores 3 out of 5 in overall quality, and scores the same in 2 out of 4 categories, in the others only 2 out of five. Nissan scores 3 out of 5 in all 4 categories, yet has the same overall quality rating of 3 out of 5 as VW?? The biggest surprise is that anyone pays attention to this BS. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2009, 12:46:34 pm » |
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I'm sorry ovr50,did you say something? |
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2009, 01:35:04 pm » |
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I'm sorry ovr50,did you say something? Apparently not. |
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2009, 02:36:22 pm » |
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How JD Power comes up with these Initial Quality ratings is beyond me. The numbers make no sense at all, for example Porsche. It gets a perfect 5 out of 5 in overall quality, yet in 3 out 4 categories it gets less than that, in the mechanical category it only gets 2 out of 5. How the hell does that add up to a perfect score? VW scores 3 out of 5 in overall quality, and scores the same in 2 out of 4 categories, in the others only 2 out of five. Nissan scores 3 out of 5 in all 4 categories, yet has the same overall quality rating of 3 out of 5 as VW?? The biggest surprise is that anyone pays attention to this BS. Perfect score = you've paid JDPower the invoice in full. |
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