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'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« on: May 29, 2009, 11:26:31 pm »
Canada will have a national auto maker now that Magna International Inc. has won the bidding to take over Adam Opel AG.

“We want to build Opel cars in Canada,” Magna chairman Frank Stronach said late Friday from Vienna as he awaited confirmation that the Canadian auto-parts giant had indeed won the backing of the German government for a deal that would give it and its partners a controlling stake.

“Canada should have its own Canadian company … a truly Canadian automobile industry,” he said, although he did not indicate where in Canada the cars would be built.

His comments came as the Magna-led bid for the key European operations of General Motors Corp. was being debated by German politicians, who later approved the deal and a bridge loan of 1.5-billion euros. Germany is home to several Opel assembly plants and about 25,000 of the company’s employees.

The victory for the 76-year-old native of Austria is the culmination of an automotive career that began in 1957, when Mr. Stronach founded a company in a Toronto garage whose first contract was with GM to stamp out metal brackets to hold sun visors in place.

Since then, with just one major setback in the early 1990s, Magna has become one of the three largest auto-parts makers in the world and, with a cash balance of $1.5-billion (U.S.), one of the healthiest companies in the auto industry.

Under the arrangement, Magna will hold 20 per cent of Opel, while its partner in the deal, Sberbank of Russia, will have 35 per cent. GM will retain 35 per cent and 10 per cent will be distributed to Opel’s employees.

Mr. Stronach said auto makers can be competitive if management and employees work together and end what he called the confrontational and adversarial structure that has dominated the industry.

“I know we can be competitive, I know we can create jobs in Canada and the United States. If we don’t change the culture, North America’s got no chance to be in the automobile industry, absolutely no chance.”

If Mr. Stronach is able to follow through with his plans for Canada, it will be the first substantial Canadian-owned vehicle manufacturer since the sons of Sam McLaughlin sold the carriage and auto-making business their father started to GM in 1918.

Magna is a vehicle manufacturer now, but does it on contract for GM, BMW AG and other auto makers in Austria.

While Mr. Stronach has a vision of building cars in Canada, he also has an eye east – on Russia, which he believes will recover from the economic crisis and again become one of the fastest-growing markets in the world.

He has been building relationships there for years, including advising Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on the industry.

Sberbank, which is controlled by the government, is Magna’s main partner in the Opel deal. Another potential partner is Oleg Deripaska, the oligarch who owns the Basic Element group and whose companies include struggling auto and truck maker OAO Gaz.

Two years ago, Mr. Deripaska invested $1.5-billion (U.S.) in Magna. Last autumn, during the height of the financial crisis, a margin call forced him to surrender that stake to lenders. Basic Element and Magna nonetheless vowed to work together to build a Russian auto-components business. Now that Magna has won control of Opel, Mr. Deripaska’s dream of selling quality cars to the masses could come true.

Sources said Basic Element might attempt to buy some or all of Sberbank’s stake in Opel. Basic Element is in no position to invest in Opel now because Mr. Deripaska’s heavily indebted empire is struggling to stay alive amid the financial crisis. Gaz is losing money and recently announced an “anti-crisis” restructuring effort.

Gaz has, however, offered to build Opel cars at its underutilized Russian factories. “The Gaz facilities would be put at the disposal of the new Opel company,” said an executive familiar with Mr. Deripaska’s plans. “Opel models are ideal for lower- and middle-class consumption in Russia.”

Gaz is Russia’s largest producer of buses, trucks and road-construction equipment and wants to ramp up its passenger-car business. It makes the low-tech Volga car, which was popular during the Soviet era, and recently struck a deal to produce a Chrysler knock-off called the Siber.

The question is whether the German government will tolerate production of Opels in Russia, when it is almost certain that thousands of Opel workers in Germany would lose their jobs. Exporting Opels to Russia, instead of building them there, would keep more of Germany’s Opel workers employed.

In winning his bid, Mr. Stronach defeated Italian auto-maker Fiat SpA and its chief executive officer Sergio Marchionne.

The complex negotiations to save Opel took on “the air of a Brazilian soap opera, in the midst of an election year both in Europe and Germany,” Mr. Marchionne said in Montreal yesterday.

He forecast a global automotive consolidation during the next two years that will leave just six players standing.

“This industry is in dire need of consolidation,” he said.

Mr. Marchionne bid for Opel in an attempt to vault into the global leadership ranks from its status as a regional player in Europe and South America. But losing out on the deal didn’t seem to bother him.

“If the Opel transaction is not available to Fiat, life will move on, you know.”

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2009, 01:21:26 am »
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“We want to build Opel cars in Canada,” Magna chairman Frank Stronach said ...
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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2009, 05:17:15 am »
One suspects that the German Gov will have a strong opinion of Magna moving jobs to Canada if thats what he'll try to do.
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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2009, 07:03:44 am »
Canadian firm Magna wins bid for Opel
Saturday 30 May 2009 By News Wires  (text) / Richard TOMPSETT  (video

Canadian group Magna has reached an agreement with General Motors to invest in its German unit, Opel. Magna, not an automobile maker, is already one of GM's associates in North America and accepted to give the US giant a 40% holding.

http://tiny.cc/8a12V

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2009, 09:15:54 am »
It's not quite over yet - the governments of the Bundeslander (similar to our provinces) of Nordrhein-Westfalen and Hessen have to agree to this.  Opel's biggest German plants are in Bochum and Russelsheim.
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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2009, 01:43:12 pm »
BIG Bochums yeth and i'm called Belinda.............. :P
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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2009, 02:11:51 pm »
It is not much of a stretch. There will be plenty of GM factory space in Ontario coming available, Magna already has the supply chain in place and there is a demand for fuel efficient cars. The Corsa is great little car and would be, in my opinion, a real hit in North America. However, due to the value of the Euro, it could never be imported here at a reasonable price which should put any German fears to rest.

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2009, 05:37:11 am »
However, this from Cdn driver today.

Governments may jeopardize GM’s survival - US Chamber ( of Commerce)
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“For example, the UAW has said that it pressured GM to change where the company plans to produce a new line of smaller cars. And as part of the GM restructuring, the administration has reportedly closed the U.S. market to Opel and blocked Opel’s forays into China so it could not compete with GM­ – clear examples of market manipulation and protectionism.
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This would put a spike in Stronach's plans

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2009, 10:49:44 am »
Not sure how Saturn would fit in if this article is accurate

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=a2q2GdJzPmoY&refer=canada

I guess it would provide Opel with a ready made North American dealer network.
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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2009, 11:44:43 am »
Finally, my dream may come true!  I started a thread a while back wondering what a Canadian car company would be like... 

http://www.canadiandriver.com/forum/index.php/topic,61875.0.html

I wonder if Pontiac would sell the right to "Acadian" !

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2009, 01:44:09 pm »
Magna chairman says can't sell Opel cars in U.S.
Toronto CanadaJune 2, 2009

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Magna International Inc <MGa.TO> is prevented under an agreement with General Motors Corp <GMGMQ.PK> from selling Opel cars in the United States for now, Magna Chairman Frank Stronach said on Tuesday.

Stronach told reporters he expected Opel, which a Magna-led consortium has agreed to buy from GM, to break even in three years, and to turn a profit in four.

(Reporting by Randall Palmer and Louise Egan, writing by John McCrank; editing by Peter Galloway)

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2009, 04:42:23 pm »
Magna International Inc <MGa.TO> is prevented under an agreement with General Motors Corp <GMGMQ.PK> from selling Opel cars in the United States for now, Magna Chairman Frank Stronach said on Tuesday…

??? Is this agreement legal? 

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2009, 04:50:28 pm »
Magna says it can't sell Opel cars in U.S., China


June 2, 2009 - 4:00 pm ET

OTTAWA (Reuters) -- Magna International Inc. is prevented by an agreement with General Motors from selling Opel cars in the United States and, for now, in China, the chairman of the Canadian auto parts company said today.

"The agreement with General Motors does prevent us from selling Opel in the United States," Frank Stronach told reporters at a news conference in Ottawa. A Magna-led consortium has agreed to buy European automaker Opel from GM.

Asked if the agreement applies to China too, he said, "Yes, for the moment, but keep in mind that General Motors -- we've been working together for 50 years, we've been great partners, and they still own 35 percent (of Opel)."

He suggested the prohibition on Opel sales in China might be flexible. "If it makes economic sense you might persuade people to change something."

Stronach also said he expects Opel to break even in three years, and to turn a profit in four.

Now that Magna has agreed to take on Opel, Stronach displayed little appetite for buying Saturn and Saab from GM, which is trying to unload those brands.

"We have to digest Opel now, and we have got a mouthful, so we'll see how quickly that will take place," he said.

Stronach was in the Canadian capital to seek government funding for a project to produce electrical systems for electric cars and, eventually, electric cars themselves.

"I'm very confident that Magna will be amongst the leaders in selling and building electric cars," he said, after demonstrating a Ford prototype with a Magna electrical system.

He said it would cost about C$300 million ($280 million) to build a plant, and he would like to build it in Canada, but he is being courted by U.S. states and European countries.

Magna is seeking a federal loan for half that amount under Canada's Automotive Innovation Fund, designed to support research and development projects to build greener vehicles

"If we get a loan we know we could speed it up. We could make sure it's going to be in Canada," he said, adding that mass production could begin within three years.

Stronach said that if the company did produce electric cars, it would make sure it set up walls between the car manufacturing and parts manufacturing divisions, so as to assure fair treatment for major automakers that buy Magna parts.
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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2009, 05:30:23 pm »
Stronach like a GOOD GAMBLE...........he won the 1st throw of the dice and made $$$ then nearly went belly Up...then on his Major Upswing...he started the "usual" i'm invincible shyte...and bought race tracks yada yada..........and now with smaller dice he's having anuffer ROLL.............he's like Roger Moore chatting UP Taylor Swift or something ;)...and baby Belinda has had a blast........why NOT go OUT inna Blaze of Opels.....and other Russian backed ZIVS and CHAVS......... :rofl2:
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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2009, 05:39:55 pm »
??? Is this agreement legal? 

It can`t be collusion if the Obama administration is in charge. ::)

It becomes legalized collusion.  ;D
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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2009, 09:51:55 pm »
Takes time for video to load, but worth watching

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/magna-steps-in/#clip178100
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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2009, 10:19:36 pm »
One suspects that the German Gov will have a strong opinion of Magna moving jobs to Canada if thats what he'll try to do.

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2009, 12:17:58 am »
It's not quite over yet - the governments of the Bundeslander (similar to our provinces) of Nordrhein-Westfalen and Hessen have to agree to this.  Opel's biggest German plants are in Bochum and Russelsheim.

Presumably if they're built in Canada, they'll sell them in Canada (and hopefully in time the USA), too.  That should mean that production remains constant at German plants, and the Canadian plant produces for our market.

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2009, 11:13:09 pm »
Canadians driving imported Opels by the end of the year?

Magna expects Opel to once again become profitable within four years, and the Canada-based supplier intends to bring Opels to Canada by the end of the year. Opel vehicles will not be making their way to the U.S. under the terms of the agreement, however.

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Re: 'We want to build Opel cars in Canada': Stronach
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2009, 11:48:22 pm »
I read that too. I think it's bull. Opel has no dealer network in Canada, and most people have not heard of them - so who will buy them? Selling Opels in Canada by the end of the year is a dream.