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BMW Comparison Drive
« on: May 11, 2009, 11:15:24 am »
Thought I'd tell you about the BMW Coparison Drive event which I attended in Montreal on Saturday.

Basically, the intention is to allow you to compare the BMW 3-Series against what BMW deem to be it's closest competition. To this end they put the 328Xi up against the Audi A4 2.0T Quattro, Merc C300 4Matic and Lexus IS250AWD. They admitted other cars could be considred to be competition but claimed these were what their customers told them they were most often compared too. I was surprised the Infiniti G35 / G35x wasn't there, but otherwise it seems a sensible choice.

There were also the 323, 328i, 335i and 335d availavle to drive -not directly part of the comparison but interesting none the less.

The course was short and speeds relatively low but it was still great fun and showed up the car differences all the same. There was a simulated on-ramp - decreasing radius curve you had to maintain 40km/hr through; an ABS demo (hard braking through a tight chicane), various slaloms, curves and hairpins to negotiate at 15 - 45 km/hr, an "emergency double lane change" maneouveur and finally a "high speed" (80km'hr) straight line brake test.

There were no instructors in car, apart from a first lap familiarisation lap, but they were stationed around the track to offer advice. They were all members of BMW driver train team and very willing to answer general driving / car / BMW related questions. There were also a couple of engineers to give "long ansers to short questions" as they put it.

I'm not a BMW fan in particular, had never driven any BMW before and expected to prefer the Audi. What really surprised me was how much more composed all the BMW's were in the cornering and braking test. They always felt to be going much slower than the other cars, even though speeds were identical.

The Lexus in particular felt really floaty and disconnected to the road, no feedback not at all confidence inspiring. The Merc had a great sound, was very nice inside but seemed more ponderous (althought the course was very tight and it is a larger car which would not have helped). I expected to really like the Audi but also found it's steering to lack any feel.

Of the BMW's they all drove very similarly with the obvious differences in straight line acceleration you'd expect from 200, 230 and 300hp cars. The most impressive car? ... the 335d, great acceleration, handled identically to the 335i and no aural (or other) clue it was a diesel.

Also there, but alas not available to drive, were the current M3 and the yet to be released Z4 hard top convertible ... both beautiful cars, expecially the Z4.

Highly recommended if you are thinking of the purchase of this class of car, or even if not and you just want to try them out.

Cheers,
Paul


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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 11:18:52 am »
Good write up, Paul, and thanks for posting your experiences. I agree with your comment that the new Z4 tin-top is a stunning looking machine. I have not driven any of the new BMW deisels yet, but would like to do so, as I am told the 335d goes like stink. Which, being of "new" deisel technology, am told it does not.  :)
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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 11:20:22 am »
Your descriptions on driving dynamics seem just about right to me. Sounds like you had a blast, thanks for posting a goow writeup!

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 12:34:19 pm »
Bah!  Quit rubbin' it in.  I tried to sign up but it was full.  :(

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009, 12:40:12 pm »
I was surprised the Infiniti G35 / G35x wasn't there......




I'm not.....That car hits just a biiit too close to home for BMW, and offers a VERY compelling alternative to the BMW...
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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2009, 12:46:14 pm »
I was surprised the Infiniti G35 / G35x wasn't there......




I'm not.....That car hits just a biiit too close to home for BMW, and offers a VERY compelling alternative to the BMW...

Either that or the fact that the G35 isn't actually produced anymore.   ;)

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2009, 12:49:50 pm »
^^^^I understood what he meant......(G37)


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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2009, 12:53:47 pm »
Very good write up Paul, thanks for sharing your experiences. My own experiences (especially regarding the 335d) are pretty similar and is a big reason why I just had to buy that 128i.   ;D

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2009, 12:54:50 pm »
Couple weeks back, I chased a G37S coupe up a long hill heading home. He lives in the same area I do. Went like stink, and had a nice growl to it. The G37S coupe is a sharp machine and is a competitor for BMW - that's good, it's what keeps car makers on their toes.  ;D

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2009, 03:50:41 pm »
Great review! I can't wait to go now.

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2009, 05:34:48 pm »
Bah!  Quit rubbin' it in.  I tried to sign up but it was full.  :(

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2009, 11:29:39 pm »
I just registered for Jun. 5th at 8am.   
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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2009, 08:19:45 pm »
Bah!  Quit rubbin' it in.  I tried to sign up but it was full.  :(

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2009, 10:06:58 pm »
The most impressive car? ... the 335d, great acceleration, handled identically to the 335i and no aural (or other) clue it was a diesel.



My experience was vastly different than that of yours.

To me, the 335d's engine felt very unrefined.  And it certainly wasn't as quick as the 335i!

I couldn't tell a difference about handling, however, b/w a 335i and a 335d.

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2009, 11:42:07 am »
Bah!  Quit rubbin' it in.  I tried to sign up but it was full.  :(

I just got the invitation. You can come if you wish. I have not registered yet and I can bring a friend. PM me if you are interested.

What day are you going?  Time?

I haven't decided yet, but it will be  Sunday or Saturday, first session in the morning (if available).

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2009, 12:27:58 pm »
Bah!  Quit rubbin' it in.  I tried to sign up but it was full.  :(

I just got the invitation. You can come if you wish. I have not registered yet and I can bring a friend. PM me if you are interested.

What day are you going?  Time?

I haven't decided yet, but it will be  Sunday or Saturday, first session in the morning (if available).

THIS Sunday or Saturday?  If so, I'll have to pass, but thanks all the same.

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2009, 01:07:14 pm »
Bah!  Quit rubbin' it in.  I tried to sign up but it was full.  :(

I just got the invitation. You can come if you wish. I have not registered yet and I can bring a friend. PM me if you are interested.

What day are you going?  Time?

I haven't decided yet, but it will be  Sunday or Saturday, first session in the morning (if available).

THIS Sunday or Saturday?  If so, I'll have to pass, but thanks all the same.

The event is at the last weekend of May and first weekend of June.

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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2009, 01:13:42 pm »
I'm going on the 5th at 8AM.
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Re: BMW Comparison Drive
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2009, 02:34:30 pm »
Damn! I wanna go! I may even been in Toronto the first week of June...  I signed up, but haven't heard anything. Guess they don't want me  :-\