Topic: Peter Egan and the Big Three: An Interesting Column

[toolatecrew]

I believe the phrase "it's just business" is used as an excuse so that you don't have to worry about the people...a concept Mr. Egan spoke of very well...and one we don't like to think about.

Do you think it matters to the folks in Trenton NS as to who signs their paychecks?

http://www.thestar.com/article/610351

This actually seems to be the outcome the residents of NS seem to be hoping for.

Maybe we should close down the Naval base in Halifax and let the Americans do it for us. They have enough ships already. I am sure they can do the job even better and more efficiently than we can. Doesn't matter who owns it anyway, as long as the service is available,right?

That would go along with your own theory that the economies of Canada and US are just one economy anyways.

As a lifetime Nova Scotia resident while saddened at the job losses it was still better than the alternative of the debacle of Government involvement in keeping steel operations in Nova Scotia running past their expiry date.

The province assumed control of Sysco on Dec. 1, 1967, intending to keep it running for 12 months. But those 12 months turned into 395 months that have cost taxpayers in excess of $3 billion, which is more than a quarter of Nova Scotia debt.

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/44/156.html

You know not of what you speak.

Well, they ARE one economy. Have been for 45 years now. We lost that war ages ago. With over 80% of our exports going to the US, how could it be anything but. We are TOTALLY reliant on the US. If they were to ever close their border to us, we would be dead as a nation. We are totally reliant on the good will of the US people and government to support our currency and economy.

The military "battle" we lost even before that. Militarily we have value because of our support to the US in Nato and Norad. We can defend ourselves against pretty well no one. Quite sad, actually.

Really don't see you point about Sysco. I am sure there are residents of NS who care about keep jobs and a healthy economy in Canada and North America. Just don't seem to be many of them on this board.

Have you ever lived in NS?


Do you know how much those 3 BILLION dollars they wasted keeping those jobs in Cape Breton could have inproved the overall economy of Nova Scotia?

As I said. You know not of what you speak. A strong ecoomomy is based on sustainable jobs from sustainable industry. Not on goverment baillout make work projects.

[Erik]

Have you ever lived in NS?


Do you know how much those 3 BILLION dollars they wasted keeping those jobs in Cape Breton could have inproved the overall economy of Nova Scotia?

As I said. You know not of what you speak. A strong ecoomomy is based on sustainable jobs from sustainable industry. Not on goverment baillout make work projects.

What does living in NS matter? You seem willing to close down Ontario industries while you don't live here.

So we can close down the naval base and that doesn't matter? That would be government make work projects.

How do you define a "sustainable" job? If any kind of government support removes a company from the "sustainable" category, than we need to remove Japan, Germany, etc. from the sustainable list. Those governments have been supporting their industries in one way or another for ages. At least compared to the US model. (state health care, keeping currency artificially low to help exports, etc. - Both have done the former, Japan has certainly done the latter).

[toolatecrew]

Have you ever lived in NS?


Do you know how much those 3 BILLION dollars they wasted keeping those jobs in Cape Breton could have inproved the overall economy of Nova Scotia?

As I said. You know not of what you speak. A strong ecoomomy is based on sustainable jobs from sustainable industry. Not on goverment baillout make work projects.

What does living in NS matter? You seem willing to close down Ontario industries while you don't live here.

So we can close down the naval base and that doesn't matter? That would be government make work projects.

How do you define a "sustainable" job? If any kind of government support removes a company from the "sustainable" category, than we need to remove Japan, Germany, etc. from the sustainable list. Those governments have been supporting their industries in one way or another for ages. At least compared to the US model. (state health care, keeping currency artificially low to help exports, etc. - Both have done the former, Japan has certainly done the latter).

Where did I say I want down close down Ontario industries. Show me where?

I'd like to see GM contunie. If the cut enough brands and dealers they can survive and continue to produce cars in Canada.

When have I said I want to see auto manufacting leave Ontairo. I'd like to see MORE car pants in Canada (I'd prefer to see som emore money thrown this way but Ontario ios better than nothing). There are many companies producing vehicles in Ontario that are not Chrysler and are not asking the Candian taxpayers for money. If the government wants to lend 2 billipon dollars to a viable car company to buold cars here I'm all for it.

I just don't want the money thrown away on a company that isn't viable. The assemnet of Chrysler is that it is not. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/business/20090330-chrysler-assessment.pdf

The armed forces are not a realistc comparison to a for profit company held by a private equity group and you know that.

[barrie1]

Learn how to spell yet TLC, can you provide us links proving thats what you have said as we are waiting with baited Breath. As the majority of the Candian auto industry is located in Ont and your view is to let it go as its wasted money then just what support are you giving this province at all if any?