Topic: Recommendations for a good all-season tire

[PJungnitsch]

Essentially, that's what Nokian did - took an h-rated winter tire and branded it as "all-weather."

Exactly. Nothing wrong with running a winter tire all year round, as long as you pick one that has good summer season performance, which CR rates. As noted, some can perform better than all seasons:

The most interesting result was that the snow tire performed better on wet asphalt than did the all-season tire. The snow tire stopped sooner -- 150 feet versus 155 -- and pulled more g -- 0.71 versus 0.69. And its 56.60-second run through the wet autocross course was 0.11 second quicker.

The major drawback noted in this test was that if you corner like a madman the tire will wear out quickly. Basically you have the soft rubber of a summer performance tire but additional tread height, sipes, etc.

[curls]

I am going to in my own thread.

Holy shnak... GTFO out of this thread if you have nothing to contribute towards my specific question!

[Flinter]

I had a good experience with a set of Toyo Proxy 4's on my old Integra. While I didn't use them year round, I typically had them on well past the 1st snowfall so they would probably be suitable for the limited winter use scenario you described. They were a big step up from the stock rubber but I remember they were kinda pricey.

I certainly would advise you to stay away from the Michelin Energy MXV4 that came stock on the Integra and many other Honda/Acura cars. I tried using them for one winter and they were treacherous.

Sorry for the horrible spelling in my original post.

[safristi]

  is that good OR bad.............. ...

[Shnak]

I am going to in my own thread.

Holy shnak... GTFO out of this thread if you have nothing to contribute towards my specific question!

Hey buddy, all I did was bring valid points and concerns here... It's the other guy there that jumped on me, blame him! 

Back on topic, I think it's GREAT that Quebec now mandates winter tires during winter months... it takes away the thinking part from people like you and forces you into making the right thing! I can only hope that Ontario does the exact same thing.

[toolatecrew]

I am going to in my own thread.

Holy shnak... GTFO out of this thread if you have nothing to contribute towards my specific question!

Hey buddy, all I did was bring valid points and concerns here... It's the other guy there that jumped on me, blame him! 

Back on topic, I think it's GREAT that Quebec now mandates winter tires during winter months... it takes away the thinking part from people like you and forces you into making the right thing! I can only hope that Ontario does the exact same thing.

You must be confused. The topic is reccomend some good All Season tires.

[Shnak]

I am going to in my own thread.

Holy shnak... GTFO out of this thread if you have nothing to contribute towards my specific question!

Hey buddy, all I did was bring valid points and concerns here... It's the other guy there that jumped on me, blame him! 

Back on topic, I think it's GREAT that Quebec now mandates winter tires during winter months... it takes away the thinking part from people like you and forces you into making the right thing! I can only hope that Ontario does the exact same thing.

You must be confused. The topic is reccomend some good All Season tires.

And my valid points and concerns were that he shouldn't be cheap when it's a matter of his wife and kids' safety. If that's not a valid point, I don't know what is!

[toolatecrew]

I am going to in my own thread.

Holy shnak... GTFO out of this thread if you have nothing to contribute towards my specific question!

Hey buddy, all I did was bring valid points and concerns here... It's the other guy there that jumped on me, blame him! 

Back on topic, I think it's GREAT that Quebec now mandates winter tires during winter months... it takes away the thinking part from people like you and forces you into making the right thing! I can only hope that Ontario does the exact same thing.

You must be confused. The topic is reccomend some good All Season tires.

And my valid points and concerns were that he shouldn't be cheap when it's a matter of his wife and kids' safety. If that's not a valid point, I don't know what is!

The topic is Recommendations for a good all season tire. Do you have a Recommendation for a good all season tire?

[Squishy]

Holy hell, I push winter tires harder than anyone (or so I thought!) but this seems a bit too much.  For a car that sees less than 10,000 km a year, you'll never wear down two sets of tires before they expire.  My recommendation is a top-of-the-line all-season, in terms of winter performance, not price.  I don't know if there are any more all-weather tires like the Nokian WR for passenger cars; I know there are quite a few for passenger-rated light truck tires.  Those would be my first choice, followed by an H-rated winter tire.

I would never run a Motomaster SE in the winter.  In my opinion, that's one tire where the all-season label is misapplied and why tires like the Nokian are now called "all-weather".  It seems as if any tire that meets M+S gets called an "all-season".  I couldn't even find a normal, non-performance summer tire labelled as such the last time I shopped for tires.

[curls]

Well I have been thinking about it and I MIGHT (big maybe) be able to find one replacement winter tire to replace the worn one before next winter.  In the meantime I will still need an all-season or summer set of tires for her car.  My choices will be dependant on what I find in terms of a replacement winter tire:

If I find a replacement winter, I'll be looking for a more summer-oriented tire like the Kumho KU25 (ASX) or such.
If I don't find a replacement winter tire, I'll be looking for a year-round tire that won't need to drive in severe winter conditions really at all, just the typical slush/salt brine that is prevalent in Ottawa.

[dr_spock]

I've ran Motomaster SE 155/85R13 in Toronto winter.   They seemed ok in slush and snow but slippery on wet ice.  Winter performance really degraded when they got older and worn.  I don't recommend spirited winter driving with them; cautious defensive would be better. 

[toolatecrew]

Well I have been thinking about it and I MIGHT (big maybe) be able to find one replacement winter tire to replace the worn one before next winter.  In the meantime I will still need an all-season or summer set of tires for her car.  My choices will be dependant on what I find in terms of a replacement winter tire:

If I find a replacement winter, I'll be looking for a more summer-oriented tire like the Kumho KU25 (ASX) or such.

If you are running winters and are looking for summer oriented
If I don't find a replacement winter tire, I'll be looking for a year-round tire that won't need to drive in severe winter conditions really at all, just the typical slush/salt brine that is prevalent in Ottawa.

I had Kuhmo ASX (215/5017) on my Maxima. I won't be buying them again. They were reasonably quiet, decent grip but I am not that hard on tires and they were DONE after 14 months of driving (I use snows in the winter). I don't expect Sporty tires to last forever but based on their wear rating 420 I expected much more.


If you stick with winters and are looking for mpore summer oriented CT has the General Exclaim UHP on sale this week in your size 205.50/16 for $110 each. Its a substantial savings over all the canadian online sites and so far has been less expensive than all but the crap low end (Achiles Hurcules etc) tires I was quoted. Its been tested and rated OK by tire rack. Supposed to have good wet performance . I wouldn't put them anywhere NEAR snow though.

I'm probaly going to go with these.

[curls]

Well I have been thinking about it and I MIGHT (big maybe) be able to find one replacement winter tire to replace the worn one before next winter.  In the meantime I will still need an all-season or summer set of tires for her car.  My choices will be dependant on what I find in terms of a replacement winter tire:

If I find a replacement winter, I'll be looking for a more summer-oriented tire like the Kumho KU25 (ASX) or such.

If you are running winters and are looking for summer oriented
If I don't find a replacement winter tire, I'll be looking for a year-round tire that won't need to drive in severe winter conditions really at all, just the typical slush/salt brine that is prevalent in Ottawa.

I had Kuhmo ASX (215/5017) on my Maxima. I won't be buying them again. They were reasonably quiet, decent grip but I am not that hard on tires and they were DONE after 14 months of driving (I use snows in the winter). I don't expect Sporty tires to last forever but based on their wear rating 420 I expected much more.


If you stick with winters and are looking for mpore summer oriented CT has the General Exclaim UHP on sale this week in your size 205.50/16 for $110 each. Its a substantial savings over all the canadian online sites and so far has been less expensive than all but the crap low end (Achiles Hurcules etc) tires I was quoted. Its been tested and rated OK by tire rack. Supposed to have good wet performance . I wouldn't put them anywhere NEAR snow though.

I'm probaly going to go with these.

My bad, I meant the Kumho AST.  They are similar to the ASX though I believe.  Hard to think they'd be done THAT fast though... wow... only basically two summers' worth?

I have the General UHP's on my TSX and love them, but didn't realize CT was having a sale on them right now.  I think that might be the best bet, and then get one or two new/used winter tires to replace the flat-spotted one that started this entire thread in the first place.

[DKaz]

I heard the Motomaster AWs are ok in snow.