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Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« on: February 22, 2009, 01:26:46 am »
Just something I recently wrote up for another forum (hence the US dollar values) and thought I'd share here as well.  Just trying to share the love of motorbikes:

(1)  Whereas sports cars tend to get heavier every generation, sportbikes almost always get lighter.

They get more powerful, stiffer, and more direct-feeling too.  Whereas many will say that the E92 M3 is faster than an E36 but it lacks the visceral feel of the E36, you'll never hear a CBR600RR rider complaining that Honda has dulled the CBR since the Hurricane days.  Every generation, it not only gets more powerful, but it gets lighter, stiffer, and more communicative.  In short: dynamically better in every way.

(2)  Performance driving skills translate readily to motorcycles and vice versa.

The concepts of weight transference, managing traction in each contact patch, and choosing the right line are shared between performance driving and performance motorcycling.  The only critical dynamic difference is how the vehicles turn (banking versus yawing).  Once you have a feel for banking, a good performance driver will probably be a good performance rider.

(3)  The controls are laid out in a way that gives you greatest sensitivity where you want it the most.

On a motorcycle, the controls where you want precision--gas, clutch, front brake--are controlled by the hands.  And you can always be in contact with all three at the same time.  The controls which require less precision--gearshifting and rear brake--are left to the feet.  For contrast, not only are clutch, brake, and gas relegated to the less-precise feet in a car, but it's pretty damned hard to control all three at once.

(4)  Bikes are cheap enough so that they don't have to be your only vehicle.

Sure, you can't carry three friends on a motorcycle (at least not comfortably or legally...it's done all the time in the third world).  And while you can ride a motorcycle in the snow (I've done it), I wouldn't recommend it if you've got another option.  However, bikes are cheap enough so that you can own a pretty nice bike AND a decent car.  For the price of a V6 Genesis coupe, you can own a Yamaha R6 and an a Civic Si sedan, for example.  The R6 kills the Genesis when you want performance, and the Civic Si sedan kills the Genesis when you want practicality, while still being a driver's car.

And while you can get world-class performance for less than $10,000 in the form of a 600cc supersport bike, you can go much cheaper and still get a good bike.  Two of the greatest performance bargains out there are the Kawasaki Ninja 250R (US$3,999) and the Suzuki SV650 (US$5,999).  They're both absolutely brilliant machines, and don't believe the tools who say they're too slow and dull for anyone but a novice (particularly the SV).

(5)  Speaking of cheap, Italian passion is real-world affordable.

The chances of any of us owning a Ferrari or Lamborghini are pretty small.  But check this out:


Yours for US$14,000.


Yours for US$14,000.


Yours for US$9,000.

(6)  The mainstream American race circuits don't suck.

I won't even post a video of how dull NASCAR is.  But for comparison,

AMA Superbike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuiLtXnXpn0&

AMA Supercross:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKPkGV85N2I&

(7)  More fuel-efficient than a Prius.

That's right, a Ninja 250R or a Suzuki SV650 will beat a Prius when it comes to fuel economy.  If gas shoots back up to $5.00 per gallon, this really really matters.  There's a reason that so many Londoners use motorcycles or motorscooters, even though it's not fun riding territory.

(8)  The risk can be managed.

There's no safe way to smoke a cigarette.  But there ARE ways to manage the risks of motorcycling. 

If you're very risk-averse, stick to the track (paved or dirt).  Even if you wipe out at 120 mph on a track, you'll almost certainly walk away.  It happens all the time in World Superbike and the like.  The next step up is only riding in the country, wearing full-leathers and not pushing your bike to 10/10ths performance (especially when you can't see the exit to each turn).  Still fun, and not particularly dangerous.  By far the most dangerous sort of riding is urban driving, or anything where intersections are involved.  Intersections are where the majority of motorcycling accidents, and serious injuries, occur.  So don't use your bike as an urban commuter unless you're not particularly risk-averse.

But remember, the danger of getting T-boned on a motorcycle isn't higher than the risk of being T-boned on a bicycle, and many of us ride bicycles in urban areas.

(9)  "Electronic nannies" and "automatic transmissions"?  What are these foreign things of which you speak?

Seriously.  You can find bikes with ABS and traction control if you want, but if you don't, great, because they aren't even options on most bikes.

As for automatic transmissions, there's only one motorcycle on the market where it's standard (Aprilia Mana), and on most it's not even an option.

(10).  It's fun as hell.  Even Jeremy Clarkson admits it.

If you haven't already watched the Top Gear Vietnam special, that's one of two dozen reasons to do so.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2009, 01:38:44 am by Mitlov »
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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2009, 02:02:51 am »
I was actually thinking of getting started on biking. Got a few $ and it itches. There's really only one problem I see: other drivers. Bikers get no respect from others at least here in ON, you need to have a screaming exhaust and rev the thing to scare them - that's how you'll make them notice you. My cousin even had an accident on his bike (before he sold it) cause the another driver didn't stop at a stop sign.

Any advice for a wannabe biker? ;D

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2009, 02:45:06 am »
I was actually thinking of getting started on biking. Got a few $ and it itches. There's really only one problem I see: other drivers. Bikers get no respect from others at least here in ON, you need to have a screaming exhaust and rev the thing to scare them - that's how you'll make them notice you. My cousin even had an accident on his bike (before he sold it) cause the another driver didn't stop at a stop sign.

Any advice for a wannabe biker? ;D

Yes.

(1)  Ride like you're invisible.  Assume nobody will see you and nobody will yield, even when they're supposed to.  Ride like that and you should be able to avoid most dangerous situations.

(2)  Intersections are the single most dangerous place in the world for motorcycles.  Racetracks are the safest, followed by country roads.  Ride within your limits and stay away from urban areas.  Remember that, statistically speaking, the first five and the last five minutes of your ride are the most dangerous.  Intersections are killers.  When they're unavoidable, remember rule #1.

(3)  When on country roads, don't really open the throttle until you can see the exit of each turn.  Roll on a bit through the turn, that's just good form, but you never know when there will be rocks, roadkill, some drunk in a pickup crossing the center line, whatever.

(4)  Always wear proper riding equipment.  Every time.  I'd be missing the left half of my face if it weren't for a full-face helmet.

(5)  Take a rider instruction course and ride within your limits.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2009, 02:55:55 am by Mitlov »

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 03:02:45 am »
Heh. Just ordered a few parts for the V-strom, crash bars, Givi bags and rack. Can't wait to get on the road again.

This is a good video for every new biker to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ3OMtMsj78

Second the rider instruction course, makes a huge difference.

Assume you will go down. Armoured mesh jackets and kevlar jeans can be worn in any weather, heavier gear for longer trips/more serious stuff is readily available.

I've found Hi-Viz gear very effective at catching the attention of car drivers.

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 04:38:29 am »
I was actually thinking of getting started on biking. Got a few $ and it itches. There's really only one problem I see: other drivers. Bikers get no respect from others at least here in ON, you need to have a screaming exhaust and rev the thing to scare them - that's how you'll make them notice you. My cousin even had an accident on his bike (before he sold it) cause the another driver didn't stop at a stop sign.

Any advice for a wannabe biker? ;D

Hence the saying "Loud pipes save lives"  ;D

I would advice any beginner to take a rider instruction course, and read Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist books.

I encourage everyone to try a track day once they have some riding experience and have become comfortable with the basics of motorcycle handling. Track days are where the skills can taken to new levels in a safe and fun environment. A word of warning, though; you may become a track day addict and give up street riding - I know this has happened to a lot of people (including myself).  ;)
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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 07:00:39 am »
Although this article is about a motorSCOOTER it is still relevant. Jeremy Clarkson of course from The Times.


Recently, various newspapers ran a photograph of me on a small motorcycle. They all pointed out that I hate motorbikes and that by riding one I had exposed myself as a hypocrite who should commit suicide immediately.

Hmmm. Had I been photographed riding the local postmistress, then, yes, I’d have been shamed into making some kind of apology. But it was a motorcycle. And I don’t think it even remotely peculiar that a motoring journalist should ride such a thing. Not when there is a problem with the economy and many people are wondering if they should make a switch from four wheels to two.

Unfortunately, you cannot make this switch on a whim, because this is Britain and there are rules. Which means that before climbing on board you must go to a car park, put on a high-visibility jacket and spend the morning driving round some cones while a man called Dave — all motorcycle instructors are called Dave — explains which lever does what.

Afterwards, you will be taken on the road, where you will drive about for several hours in a state of abject fear and misery, and then you will go home and vow never to get on a motorcycle ever again.

This is called compulsory basic training and it allows you to ride any bike up to 125cc. If you want to ride something bigger, you must take a proper test. But, of course, being human, you will not want a bigger bike, because then you will be killed immediately while wearing clothing from the Ann Summers “Dungeon” range.

Right, first things first. The motorbike is not like a car. It will not stand up when left to its own devices. So, when you are not riding it, it must be leant against a wall or a fence. I’m told some bikes come with footstools which can be lowered to keep them upright. But then you have to lift the bike onto this footstool, and that’s like trying to lift up an American.

Next: the controls. Unlike with a car, there seems to be no standardisation in the world of motorcycling. Some have gearlevers on the steering wheel. Some have them on the floor, which means you have to shift with your feet — how stupid is that? — and some are automatic.

Then we get to the brakes. Because bikes are designed by bikers — and bikers, as we all know, are extremely dim — they haven’t worked out how the front and back brake can be applied at the same time. So, to stop the front wheel, you pull a lever on the steering wheel, and to stop the one at the back, you press on a lever with one of your feet.

A word of warning, though. If you use only the front brake, you will fly over the steering wheel and be killed. If you try to use the back one, you will use the wrong foot and change into third gear instead of stopping. So you’ll hit the obstacle you were trying to avoid, and you’ll be killed.

Then there is the steering. The steering wheel comes in the shape of what can only be described as handlebars, but if you turn them — even slightly — while riding along, you will fall off and be killed. What you have to do is lean into the corner, fix your gaze on the course you wish to follow, and then you will fall off and be killed.

As far as the minor controls are concerned, well . . . you get a horn and lights and indicators, all of which are operated by various switches and buttons on the steering wheel, but if you look down to see which one does what, a truck will hit you and you will be killed. Oh, and for some extraordinary reason, the indicators do not self-cancel, which means you will drive with one of them on permanently, which will lead following traffic to think you are turning right. It will then undertake just as you turn left, and you will be killed.

What I’m trying to say here is that, yes, bikes and cars are both forms of transport, but they have nothing in common. Imagining that you can ride a bike because you can drive a car is like imagining you can swallow-dive off a 90ft cliff because you can play table tennis.

However, many people are making the switch because they imagine that having a small motorcycle will be cheap. It isn’t. Sure, the 125cc Vespa I tried can be bought for £3,499, but then you will need a helmet (£300), a jacket (£500), some Freddie Mercury trousers (£100), shoes (£130), a pair of Kevlar gloves (£90), a coffin (£1,000), a headstone (£750), a cremation (£380) and flowers in the church (£200).

In other words, your small 125cc motorcycle, which has no boot, no electric windows, no stereo and no bloody heater even, will end up costing more than a Volkswagen Golf. That said, a bike is much cheaper to run than a car. In fact, it takes only half a litre of fuel to get from your house to the scene of your first fatal accident. Which means that the lifetime cost of running your new bike is just 50p.

So, once you have decided that you would like a bike, the next problem is choosing which one. And the simple answer is that, whatever you select, you will be a laughing stock. Motorbiking has always been a hobby rather than an alternative to proper transport, and as with all hobbies, the people who partake are extremely knowledgeable. It often amazes me that in their short lives bikers manage to learn as much about biking as people who angle, or those who watch trains pull into railway stations.

Whatever. Because they are so knowledgeable, they will know precisely why the bike you select is rubbish and why theirs is superb. Mostly, this has something to do with “getting your knee down”, which is a practice undertaken by bikers moments before the crash that ends their life.

You, of course, being normal, will not be interested in getting your knee down; only in getting to work and most of the way home again before you die. That’s why I chose to test the Vespa, which is much loathed by trainspotting bikers because they say it is a scooter. This is racism. Picking on a machine because it has no crossbar is like picking on a person because he has slitty eyes or brown skin. Frankly, I liked the idea of a bike that has no crossbar, because you can simply walk up to the seat and sit down. Useful if you are Scottish and go about your daily business in a skirt.

I also liked the idea of a Vespa because most bikes are Japanese. This means they are extremely reliable so you cannot avoid a fatal crash by simply breaking down. This is entirely possible on a Vespa because it is made in Italy.
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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 07:58:47 am »
^ That's hilarious, thanks for posting  ;D

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 08:33:53 am »
I've been toying with the idea of getting a bike too, need to sort out my life insurance first. Even in the Summer I saw very few sports bikes around, mainly harley types.
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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 09:44:20 am »
I've been toying with the idea of getting a bike too, need to sort out my life insurance first. Even in the Summer I saw very few sports bikes around, mainly harley types.

I have noticed the same thing in Vancouver - very few bikes of any kind on the roads. I find it surprising, given that the prices of bikes in Canada are reasonable and BC mountain roads plentiful.

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 10:43:35 am »
I've been toying with the idea of getting a bike too, need to sort out my life insurance first. Even in the Summer I saw very few sports bikes around, mainly harley types.

I have noticed the same thing in Vancouver - very few bikes of any kind on the roads. I find it surprising, given that the prices of bikes in Canada are reasonable and BC mountain roads plentiful.

Additional insurance costs make up for any cost savings you may have from fuel mileage.  For a 20ish year old to insure a sporty bike (nothing with an R or X in the name) could easily cost more than the price of a used bike at $3000+
Nobody in Canada rides a bike because it's cheap transportation.
BTW, I totally agree with Mitlov's 5 rules.

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2009, 10:49:29 am »
Good stuff Mitlov! :thumbup:
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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2009, 11:08:48 am »
A great bunch of photos of the Italian machinery...nice!

If the salesguy was aggressive AT ALL, I would have a new Ducati Monster instead of my RX-8.

At the end, I just didn't think I'd use the bike very much given I'll use the RX-8 (a lot) as my daily driver...and I couldn't see myself taking off for hours on the bike given I've got the airplane.
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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2009, 12:47:02 pm »
Very nice write up, Mitlov.

I am not a bike person, just cars. Sports bikes are  getting rare here, mostly Harle'ys.

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2009, 01:21:32 pm »
Sportbikes are so extreme now, they're really getting hard to live with on the street. Ergonomics just suck, twitchy handling, grabby brakes, and almost two-stroke like power delivery just get tiresome after a while. Excellent track weapons, but such a pain in the ass crossing town.

I looked (very briefly) at an R6 instead of the FZ6. I just couldn't live with that riding position. I also got a year old, new FZ for $6995 (MSRP was around $9k), not much more than half what they wanted for the R6.

 A friend of mine took her R6 to Toronto. Damn near crippled her, and she's maybe 110lbs and 27years old.

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2009, 01:22:00 pm »
Lot's of Harleys here as well. I think because they are well suited for putting around town, which is fun and easy to do.

Without an autobahn it's really hard to get much use out of the monster power sportbikes have. You reach the legal limit in first gear, then what? By the time you've hit third you are in huge trouble if they catch you. Unless you are really into track, big ski-doos are more useful for most people. Go as fast as you want in any snow covered field. Trails all over the country, and awesome ways to use that power up in the mountains.

Personally, while my V-strom is a great 'everything' bike, if I had extra money kicking around I'd have:

1) Ninja 250. A sportbike small enough you can wring it out at legal speeds. (Set of colorful racing leathers, full face helmet with flames, etc)

2) Harley something or other. For lazy cruising around town. (Harley t-shirt, black leathers, chaps, bandanna, shorty helmet, tattoo)

3) Goldwing. Luxury for long trips. (short sleeved shirt, 3/4 helmet with intercom)


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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2009, 01:22:48 pm »
Hence the saying "Loud pipes save lives"  ;D

They don't, though, because they project all their sound backward, away from the person who needs to know the bike is there.  Loud helmets save lives.  Loud jackets too.  Flashy multicolored things may make you look like a boy racer, but they're very high-visibility.  Go for it.  The worst thing a motorcyclist can wear is all black.

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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2009, 01:29:56 pm »
Although this article is about a motorSCOOTER it is still relevant. Jeremy Clarkson of course from The Times.

I've seen that before.  There are about a dozen factual inaccuracies and some are just asinine.  For example, he complains about separate controls for the front and rear brake, but I know he can handle that because I've seen him do e-brake turns in cars.  What is the e-brake lever used for if not separately controlling the brakes?  And never mind there's a genuine dynamic reason to modulate front and rear brakes separately on a motorcycle.  You start out with about equal pressure for braking, and then as the weight transfers forward, you increase pressure on the front brake and decrease pressure on the rear. 

Another thing that annoyed me was his complaining about the lack of standardization in gearbox controls.  Seriously?  Does he want me to list how many different ways there are to shift gears in cars?  The fact is, in 99.9% of motorcycles, the gearbox is controlled with a left toe lever that works exactly the same on each bike.  Down for first, halfway up for neutral, all the way up for second, up again for third, up again for fourth, etc.  With cars, even when they have stick shifts, nobody can agree on how to get into neutral.

Then I realized that it's Clarkson, and nobody expects him to be accurate, they just expect him to be entertaining.  And besides, that column was written before the Top Gear Vietnam special, during which he finally admitted that motorcycling really is fun.

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2009, 01:35:06 pm »
Sportbikes are so extreme now, they're really getting hard to live with on the street. Ergonomics just suck, twitchy handling, grabby brakes, and almost two-stroke like power delivery just get tiresome after a while. Excellent track weapons, but such a pain in the ass crossing town.

I looked (very briefly) at an R6 instead of the FZ6. I just couldn't live with that riding position. I also got a year old, new FZ for $6995 (MSRP was around $9k), not much more than half what they wanted for the R6.

Sportsbikes are at the level of the Lotus Exige or maybe the Ariel Atom right now.  Thankfully, the manufacturers have realized this, and have increasingly been selling sportsbikes made for the street, from the SV650 and variants to the FZ6 and variants.

On the other hand, I get really annoyed with the ergonomic disaster that is a "cruiser" motorcycle.  People will tell you it's comfortable, but if you think about it, it's torture on the lower back.  (Not to mention they handle poorly because they're the two-wheeled equivalent of lowrider pickup trucks).  A sport-standard or sport-tourer is, in my opinion, the best choice you can make for real-world riding.

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Re: Ten reasons to start motorcycling
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2009, 01:40:00 pm »
On the other hand, I get really annoyed with the ergonomic disaster that is a "cruiser" motorcycle.  People will tell you it's comfortable, but if you think about it, it's torture on the lower back.  (Not to mention they handle poorly because they're the two-wheeled equivalent of lowrider pickup trucks).  A sport-standard or sport-tourer is, in my opinion, the best choice you can make for real-world riding.

Agreed!

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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2009, 02:09:27 pm »
Mitlov, one doesn't post JC articles for their factual accuracy but for their JC-ness.   ;D   I knew it was old, I think I've seen it back last fall as well.

for the record I owned a motorcycle for one summer when I was 16.    It was fun for a summer but I will never willing ride one again. Horrible things as far as I am concerned.


As for your comment about cruisers.    If I have to share the road with motorcycles I would MUCH rather share with a kid in bright colours on a fast and nimble sports bike than with someone dragging along below the speed limit on a cruiser.  To me, as a car driver, the whole point of a bike is that it can out accelerate me and then get and stay well ahead where I can see it.