Topic: CTC: Top Ten of 2008!

[Jaeger]

  I've had to use my spare a couple times, and it's nice to have it when you need it.  But I do think, with the Fit, people would rather forgo a spare than forgo that $1000 rebate. 

I totally take your point, and if someone said to me you can have a spare or $1k in cash, I take the cash.  That said, I have a hard time believing that the weight of the spare - we're talking a little donut, not a full size wheel and tire, right? - is the fuel-economy difference maker.

I'm looking back at the thread topic and wondering how the heck we got here from there.  Mostly my fault it would seem - apologies for the diversion.

Jaeger

[Greg B.]

But I do think, with the Fit, people would rather forgo a spare than forgo that $1000 rebate. 

True enough. Potential buyers need that $1000 to get the price down to a competitive level given Honda's notorious pricing.

[Honda Owner]

given Honda's notorious pricing.

Greg, "given Honda's notorious pricing," why is the Canadian made Civic the top selling vehicle in North America?

Just wondering? Maybe the people who buy them perceive some value in them?

[Greg B.]

Just wondering? Maybe the people who buy them perceive some value in them?

Some people will pay any price for a reputation, regardless of whether it is deserved.

[Honda Owner]

Some people will pay any price for a reputation, regardless of whether it is deserved.

Are you saying that Honda and cars have a better reputation? If so, why does this make Honda the best selling car in North America? Is this perception misguided? Why? I need to know for my next purchase of a car, which will be soon. What brand and model, Greg, do you recommend I buy for my daughter and based on what parameters?

[Jaeger]

Just wondering? Maybe the people who buy them perceive some value in them?

Some people will pay any price for a reputation, regardless of whether it is deserved.

Wow - who knew Canadians were such mindless uninformed lemmings?  Wait a minute... we're not!

Jaeger

[Greg B.]

Just wondering? Maybe the people who buy them perceive some value in them?

Some people will pay any price for a reputation, regardless of whether it is deserved.

Wow - who knew Canadians were such mindless uninformed lemmings?  Wait a minute... we're not!

Main Entry:
    cult
Pronunciation:
    \ˈkəlt\
Function:
    noun
Usage:
    often attributive
Etymology:
    French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate — more at wheel
Date:
    1617

1: formal religious veneration : worship
2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual ; also : its body of adherents
3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious ; also : its body of adherents
4: a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator <health cults>
5 a: great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book) ; especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b: the object of such devotion

[Juke1]

A can of sealant is the most stupid thing I ever heard, and from Honda for crying out loud.  Sure it works for a nail hole, what about some big gash, wait 3 hours in traffic with bad weather for roadside assistance???

Surely a big gash doesn't happen as often as some poor soul gets hit in traffic when trying to change a flat. Its much easier, esp. in winter to use a sealant and an electric pump.

When I was 16, I tore the sidewall out of my parent's Camry by clipping a curb while turning a corner.  I pulled into the nearest store's parking lot (a whopping 15 feet from the accident) and, with some help from someone who knew what they were doing, swapped out the damaged tire for a spare.  Sure, changing a tire in the middle of traffic is dangerous, but how hard is it to pull well off the road, or into a nearby parking lot?

I like to have a spare tire.  I don't like runflats, and I really really really don't like a can of sealant, because it wouldn't have helped me at all in the above situation.

Well...it happen to me with the Xtrail on a 4 lane highway...piece of steel completely ruined a new snow tire, no parking lots to be found here.  As well with my Focus at night on a rural road with my 2 young sons on board, a piece of steel destroyed the tire.  Glad I had a spare tire, with the Xtrail a real one at that.  I wonder the reaction if it was GM the "el cheapos" here and not Honda  Dam it's Christmas, what am I doing talking about stupid cars???  Season's Greetings

[Honda Owner]

Ahh, so it is a cult. That explains everything.

[tpl]

A can of sealant is the most stupid thing I ever heard, and from Honda for crying out loud.  Sure it works for a nail hole, what about some big gash, wait 3 hours in traffic with bad weather for roadside assistance???

Surely a big gash doesn't happen as often as some poor soul gets hit in traffic when trying to change a flat. Its much easier, esp. in winter to use a sealant and an electric pump.

When I was 16, I tore the sidewall out of my parent's Camry by clipping a curb while turning a corner.  I pulled into the nearest store's parking lot (a whopping 15 feet from the accident) and, with some help from someone who knew what they were doing, swapped out the damaged tire for a spare.  Sure, changing a tire in the middle of traffic is dangerous, but how hard is it to pull well off the road, or into a nearby parking lot?

I like to have a spare tire.  I don't like runflats, and I really really really don't like a can of sealant, because it wouldn't have helped me at all in the above situation.

Well...it happen to me with the Xtrail on a 4 lane highway...piece of steel completely ruined a new snow tire, no parking lots to be found here.  As well with my Focus at night on a rural road with my 2 young sons on board, a piece of steel destroyed the tire.  Glad I had a spare tire, with the Xtrail a real one at that.  I wonder the reaction if it was GM the "el cheapos" here and not Honda  Dam it's Christmas, what am I doing talking about stupid cars???  Season's Greetings

Happened to me.  BOTH lh tire  sidewalls on my 2 month old BMW on a pothole in TO April 2003 ( the Ice storm week.)
Got off the road and waited for a towtruck.  Annoyingly the tires ( Goodyear RSA 205-50/17 VR) were on backorder/unavailable even at  BMW dealers so I had to get 4 new tires.

[Jaeger]

Ahh, so it is a cult. That explains everything.

Well of course it is - that's the only reasonable explanation.  I mean, it would be absurd to think it had anything to do with design, quality and value.  Nope - they're all  brainwashed.  That makes much more sense. 

My new year's resolution, by the way: Don't feed the trolls.

Jaeger