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Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« on: November 11, 2008, 02:39:54 am »
November 10, 2008 - 12:01 am ET


DETROIT(Reuters) -- South Korea's Hyundai Motor Co. has had talks with Chrysler LLC owner Cerberus Capital Management LP about a potential acquisition of the U.S. automaker's Jeep brand and possibly other assets, people with knowledge of the talks told Reuters.

The emergence of Korea's largest automaker as a potential bidder for at least part of Chrysler comes a day after General Motors said it shelved its own pursuit of an acquisition of its cross-town rival.

Cerberus also plans to restart talks with other potential partners for Chrysler, including Renault-Nissan, the sources said.

Hyundai has expressed interest in Chrysler's Jeep brand, but Cerberus would prefer to sell all of Chrysler rather than split off assets through a series of deals that would break up the company, the sources said.

Cerberus, Chrysler and Hyundai declined to comment.

Jeep is considered Chrysler's most valuable asset. Although Chrysler has been readying a step that would allow it to sell off Jeep and its supporting parts business readily, any move to dispose of the brand would signal the end of Chrysler as a stand-alone automaker, sources said.

The talks over the future of Chrysler are playing out just as the U.S. auto industry makes its case to U.S. lawmakers for a rescue package for GM, Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler at a time when all three are burning cash faster than ever.

GM, which had been seen as the leading candidate to buy Chrysler, said on Friday that it set aside its pursuit of the acquisition in order to focus on preserving cash.

Bush administration officials last week rebuffed a request for some $10 billion for GM to fund its proposed merger with Chrysler in part, out of concern for the tens of thousands of jobs that would be lost as a result, sources have said.

One advantage of a Hyundai bid is that the Korean automaker would likely opt to preserve more of Chrysler's U.S. operations, and hence keep more jobs, the sources said.

That aspect of the deal could be important because Democratic lawmakers who extended their majority in Congress in Tuesday's election have made it clear that any federal rescue package would be aimed at preserving U.S. manufacturing jobs.

The auto industry and its political allies, including the UAW, are pressing for the current Congress to take up a proposal for another $50 billion low-cost loans for the cash-strapped sector later this month.

Another source of pressure comes from Chrysler's dwindling cash, people with knowledge of the situation have said.

Without new funding, Chrysler executives have raised concern about the automaker's ability to finance its operations beyond the first half of 2009, according to the sources.

"Things are going to happen pretty fast now because the sand is almost through the hourglass," said one person familiar with the talks.

U.S. sales of Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge brands were down almost 26 percent this year through October, and Chrysler's market share has slipped to just 11 percent in October, putting it in an almost dead-heat with Honda Motor Co. for the No. 4 spot in the U.S. market.

In a breakup of Chrysler, Nissan-Renault might consider buying the automaker's Ram pickup truck production while Germany's Volkswagen is seen as a possible buyer for Chrysler's minivan line, people close to the talks said.

Hyundai, which has 3 percent of the U.S. market, has aspirations to be a full-line auto manufacturer. Based on low pricing and an attention-grabbing 10-year warranty, Hyundai saw sharp growth in U.S. sales earlier this decade.

More recently, it has battled to change the public perception of its brand. Hyundai launched its first luxury model this year and has considered the idea of establishing its own luxury line, like Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus.

But a recent round of talks between Hyundai and Ford Motor Co. over a deal to sell Ford's Volvo brand to the Korean automaker sputtered out in a dispute over the value of the brand, sources have said.

Hyundai also had a rocky relationship with DaimlerChrysler before Germany's Daimler AG sold Chrysler to Cerberus in 2007. In 2004, DaimlerChrysler announced it was selling its 10.5 percent stake in Hyundai.

Hyundai has its U.S. headquarters outside Los Angeles, a new $1.1-billion plant in Alabama, and an engineering center near Detroit. Its affiliate Kia Motors Corp. is building a plant in Alabama set to open in 2009.

Hyundai ended the third quarter with 4.5 trillion won, equivalent to about $3.5 billion at the current exchange rate.

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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 07:43:28 am »
Local Chrysler dealer just finished building a very posh new showroom (floor to ceiling glass walls,quarry tile floors,floodlit concrete exterior display aprons ,extensive landscaping etc,etc) He built this in the parking lot of his dealership over the past year and then demolished the old showroom/service centre. He's got to be Sh**ing Bricks these days! :o
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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 11:04:46 pm »
I think a downsized Chrysler would be a perfect platform for Hyundai to "Americanize" themselves.  There might be some meat in this one.

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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 08:08:11 am »
I think a downsized Chrysler would be a perfect platform for Hyundai to "Americanize" themselves.  There might be some meat in this one.

I agree. This would put them instantly in the mainstream.
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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 08:12:10 am »
It would also give them dealers in towns where they have none

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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 12:09:45 pm »
Breaking Chrysler up into parts, ie Jeep/cars to Hyundai, minivans to VW, trucks to Nissan is a much better scenario than the company going to GM. All those firms have holes in the lineup that Chrysler products could fill and lack the dealers that Chrysler has in abundance.

It would be a tough (and complicated) transition, but much better than GM buying up the company just to shut down a competitor.


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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 04:20:17 pm »
GM taking over Chrysler might mean today both companies go down together. If Hyundai buys Jeep and start using their own power trains plus improves mileage and fit and finish then regular folks may actually start buying Jeep again, so jobs will be saved.
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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 10:24:31 pm »
It would also give them dealers in towns where they have none
This would also close every Chrysler dealer in Cities. As the Hyundai dealers would snap up the JEEP line,the Nissan Dealers would take the trucks and VW the Caravans.
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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2008, 07:39:30 am »
It would also give them dealers in towns where they have none
This would also close every Chrysler dealer in Cities. As the Hyundai dealers would snap up the JEEP line,the Nissan Dealers would take the trucks and VW the Caravans.

I'm afraid that is going to be the new normal....at least Hyundai would keep some open especially in smaller markets. We are going to be looking at unprecedented dealership closures, thems the breaks.

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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 08:29:36 am »
Well, Mitsubishi is looking to expand....and for a while a large chunk of Chryslers line up was Mitsubishi badge engineered.




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Re: Hyundai, Chrysler in talks as GM pulls out
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2008, 08:52:48 am »
......"GM PULLS OUT!!!!"......................... no wonder they are losing a Wad of money...................... :pimp:
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