Author Topic: 2008 C&D Lightning Lap (Read 4198 times)

Vmango · « **on:** September 25, 2008, 02:31:52 pm »

Car and Driver just released their results for the 2008 lightning lap at VIR.

Here are the results in order of fastest to slowest:

LL5 MOSLER MT900S 2:45.9
LL3 DODGE VIPER SRT10 ACR 2:48.6
LL5 FERRARI 430 SCUDERIA 2:54.6
LL3 NISSAN GT-R 2:55.6
LL2 CHEVROLET CORVETTE Z51 3:01.2
LL2 CADILLAC CTS-V 3:04.0
LL2 BMW M3 3:05.6
LL2 MERCEDES-BENZ C63 AMG 3:06.5
LL1 CHEVROLET COBALT SS TURBOCHARGED 3:13.0
LL2 MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION MR 3:13.3
LL2 BMW 135i 3:13.7
LL2 LEXUS IS F 3:14.0
LL2 AUDI S5 3:14.6
LL2 HONDA S2000 CR 3:15.0
LL2 DODGE CHALLENGER SRT8 3:16.3
LL2 INFINITI G37 SPORT 3:17.5
LL2 SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI 3:19.0
LL1 DODGE CALIBER SRT4 3:20.8
LL2 VOLKSWAGEN R32 3:21.8
LL2 HONDA CIVIC MUGEN Si 3:24.8
LL1 VOLVO C30 T5 VERSION 2.0 3:26.6

Jameel · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2008, 03:21:54 pm »

I'm surprised they didn't test a Corvette Z06, they only test a Corvette with the Z51 handling package.

Oz · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2008, 03:24:59 pm »

Holy Cobalt Batman...

Turbo Bob · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2008, 03:48:51 pm »

Why did the lexus do so poorly?

Sir Osis of Liver · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2008, 04:08:07 pm »

Quote from: Oz on September 25, 2008, 03:24:59 pm

Holy Cobalt Batman...

That is hugely impressive considering the competition.

Jameel · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2008, 04:16:25 pm »

Quote from: Oz on September 25, 2008, 03:24:59 pm

Holy Cobalt Batman...

Yah I didn’t even notice that until I read your post. Yes very impressive

dave · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2008, 04:35:30 pm »

That Cobalt SS TC is a monster. Common Vman, you know you want another one...your Chevy man-love tells you so.

wing · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:04:33 pm »

Quote from: Just Bob on September 25, 2008, 03:48:51 pm

Why did the lexus do so poorly?

Cause it weights a million tons?

Surprised by the SRT-8 challenger. S2000 placed high considering it's so weak on power now.

vdk · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:05:21 pm »

LL1 CHEVROLET COBALT SS TURBOCHARGED 3:13.0
LL2 MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION MR 3:13.3
LL2 BMW 135i 3:13.7
LL2 LEXUS IS F 3:14.0
LL2 AUDI S5 3:14.6

HOLY

!!!

rrocket · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:08:07 pm »

Well did everyone think I was lying when I said like a month of two ago that the new Cobalt was the "best handling FWD on the market...and maybe of all time."

Vmango · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:16:04 pm »

It did set the all-time 'ring record for a FWD car by over 13 seconds....

Chevy man-love says "yes".

Wife, age, looking for refinement, and devastating crash say "no"

rrocket · « **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:28:27 pm »

Quote from: Vmango on September 25, 2008, 05:16:04 pm

It did set the all-time 'ring record for a FWD car by over 13 seconds....

Chevy man-love says "yes".

Wife, age, looking for refinement, and devastating crash say "no"

Sissy.....

Snowman · « **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:32:18 pm »

Not one Porsche? What cars were not included on the test?

safristi · « **Reply #13 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:36:15 pm »

the ones NOT TESTED D'oh...................

rrocket · « **Reply #14 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:47:09 pm »

I'm also suspicious of the Viper ACR. In most every test thus far, the Viper ACR came along with its own factory suspension technician to set the car up for test venues. Apparently at least one magazine was told they could not test the car unless their technician was allowed to set the car up...

Sir Osis of Liver · « **Reply #15 on:** September 25, 2008, 05:53:32 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on September 25, 2008, 05:08:07 pm

Well did everyone think I was lying when I said like a month of two ago that the new Cobalt was the "best handling FWD on the market...and maybe of all time."

I believed you RR!

I saw a HHR SS accelerate onto the highway one day at what must have been full chat! That sucker really hauled ass!

Vmango · « **Reply #16 on:** September 25, 2008, 06:10:02 pm »

I believe they don't test cars that aren't all-new or significally updated. I don't know if the new 911s are making their rounds yet?

Yeah - I mean the ACR, especially with a tech is pretty much a full track car - mostly everything else is street-first.....other than the Mosler, obviously. The ACR is a beast, though.

Vmango · « **Reply #17 on:** September 25, 2008, 06:18:13 pm »

I've been spending a lot of time on Subaru forums under the assumption I may purchase a WRX 265.....they are all none-to-happy about their beloved STi having such a poor showing. I wonder how the 265 would have stacked up. For some reason I feel it could have done better than the STi based on the R&T Turbo article.

I am happy though, that a lot of members of other sport compact forums are starting to give the Cobalt some credit. Obviously there are many haters who would never give it its due no matter how great it might be - but this could be good for the Cruze when it replaces the Cobalt ---- if they keep the performance bar high and give it some refinement and snazzy-looks they could finally have a true winner in all respects.

rrocket · « **Reply #18 on:** September 25, 2008, 06:24:59 pm »

I sent Snowy a PM a few days back about a modding session on an 2009 Sti. For about $1000 the car picked up nearly 100TQ and 75 or so HP. I have the numbers at home...So I may be off. Maybe Snowy can Copy/Paste the PM I sent him....These cars mod very, very nicely. Almost as easy as a Supra...

airbalancer · « **Reply #19 on:** September 25, 2008, 06:29:09 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on September 25, 2008, 05:08:07 pm

Well did everyone think I was lying when I said like a month of two ago that the new Cobalt was the "best handling FWD on the market...and maybe of all time."

A month ago

I cannot remember what you wrote 3 hours ago