Production Volt

[Leviathan]

Really, the Volt "launch" has to be the most over-hyped event in automotive history. How long has it been going on? Five years? And still no runner.

Ya, GM is doing this all just to annoy you     5 years? Way off.

GM says all-electric Volt approved for 2010 launch

Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:44pm EDT
By Soyoung Kim

WILMINGTON, Delaware (Reuters) - General Motors Corp said on Tuesday its all-electric Chevrolet Volt was on track for a launch in 2010 after the company's board approved funding for production of the high-profile plug-in vehicle.

"The Chevy Volt is a go," GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner told reporters ahead of the company's annual meeting with shareholders in Wilmington, Delaware.

Show/concept car in late 2007, given the green light in June of 2008 and (apparently) on schedule for November 2010 release does not add up to 5 years...

[articsteve]

“How could it be connected to the Volt program? We delivered ahead of schedule, the cars are performing extremely well and we have an outstanding GM team that has inhaled the mission of the electrification. The Volt has transformed the industry, GM and myself. This program will always be very close to my heart.

Every couple of months GM will issue statements that the Volt is meeting or exceeding expectations.

Why 

Because in 2010 GM is going to Wall Street with their first public share offering.  This stock sale will make or break the company.  It will be absolutely essential to keep the Volt illusion alive prior.

[Leviathan]

You do realize that there are 80 some odd PPV out and about right? I don't think Copperfield could pull off an "illusion" like that so it must be real. Really, give it up.

[drederick]

 
You know what DENIAL is, it is a Toyota salesman who doesn't see the severe slide in Toyota quality.

Hmmm...wonder why that severe slide doesn't show up in Consumer Reports 2009 reliability study set to be released Nov. 3rd.  Toyota and Honda still tops.  You'd think if there was a "severe" slide, Toyota wouldn't account for almost 40% of the most reliable models in their annual report. 

"Of the 48 models with top reliability scores, 36 are Asian--Toyota accounts for 18; Honda, eight; Nissan, four; and Hyundai/Kia and Subaru, three each."

FWIW, Ford was the only domestic manufacturer with "world class reliability" in the report.

Ok..back to the Volt...again! 

Even Consumer Reports has decided (and rightly so) not to ASsume that new Toyotas are all built good enough to recomend LOL

You do remember this , right?

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/Advice/ToyotaIsSlippingConsumerReportsSays.aspx

Consumer Reports magazine reported today that the quality of cars made by Toyota, long the benchmark for reliability among automotive brands, had slipped so much that the organization no longer will automatically recommend them.
Releasing the results of its 2007 annual Car Reliability Survey today in Detroit, the magazine said two high-profile models, the top-selling Camry V-6 and the four-wheel-drive Tundra pickup, both redesigned this year, scored below average. Consumer Reports won't recommend any model scoring below average to its readers.

Now back to the Volt.

[Honda Owner]

drederick, that article is two years old.

GM=bankrupt, government owned welfare case. Bleeding taxpayer's money, not expected survive 2010 IPO. Went through $135bn in losses in the three years before going bust. Largest corporate failure in history. Has seen market share go from 60% to 15%.

Toyota=largest car company in the world, expected to post 2010 profit.

Volt=does not exist, hyped and PRed, not a single press car after many years.

GM slappies really surprise me with their delusions. When Government Motors is dead and gone late next year, whose wagon while they attach themselves to?

[toolatecrew]

The fact is that the Volt is not in production.Its not available for sale . Its not been tested by any independent bodies. All we have is GMs promise it will be released in November 2010. We all know how good GM is at keeping promises.

[Honda Owner]

GMs promise it will be released in November 2010

It is all about the IPO which is, incidental, also in November of 2010. GM hopes the "splash" of the Volt will somehow create "buzz" and make the IPO sell. It won't.

The problem GM has is the same group of flunkies is still running the place. Lutz is such a dinosaur, he still lives in the past fantasy that marketing and a good sales team could sell convertibles in Nunavut and that product is secondary to these. It isn't. Consumers are waaaay more savvy than they were in Maximum Bob's heyday. His model is totally flawed and was only sustained by subprime finanicing to people with room temperature IQs. GM became a financing company, not a car maker, and all its products were geared to that.

It's all smoke and mirrors. Ford will most likely be the biggest beneficiary of GM's final death and good for them. Ford has done what GM should have, but could not.

[drederick]

drederick, that article is two years old.

GM=bankrupt, government owned welfare case. Bleeding taxpayer's money, not expected survive 2010 IPO. Went through $135bn in losses in the three years before going bust. Largest corporate failure in history. Has seen market share go from 60% to 15%.

Toyota=largest car company in the world, expected to post 2010 profit.

Volt=does not exist, hyped and PRed, not a single press car after many years.

GM slappies really surprise me with their delusions. When Government Motors is dead and gone late next year, whose wagon while they attach themselves to?

OK, has CR changed its mind since the '2 year old' article? NO they have not, so what is your point?

Just for a laugh, any chance you can show that GM has a 15 percent market share? LOL awww come on you know its true..... because you wrote it!

Volt = does not exist? or Volt is not for sale YET because it was never intended to be for sale yet. I think you might want to do a little bit more reading about the Volt and you'll see that people have driven it...... why are you writing in a Volt thread if you don't even know about the car?

[Honda Owner]

Just for a laugh, any chance you can show that GM has a 15 percent market share?

It is currently 18% vs over 60% in 1970. Most predictions are for 15% in 2009. I guess this is success in slappie land. GM is dead. It will not survive 2010. It is the biggest business failure history. Is this lost on GM slappies?

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-market-share-projected-at-15-percent/

[drederick]

Just for a laugh, any chance you can show that GM has a 15 percent market share?

It is currently 18% vs over 60% in 1970. Most predictions are for 15% in 2009. I guess this is success in slappie land. GM is dead. It will not survive 2010. It is the biggest business failure history. Is this lost on GM slappies?

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/gms-market-share-projected-at-15-percent/

Ohhhh projected market share LOL I got ya - projected = truth

Except for what GM is saying about the Volt, that is.

I predict you haven't been watching how the market for cars in the US is going...... read up here:
http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/10/october-is-years-best-non-clunker-month-for-car-sales-edmundscom-forecasts.html

[Honda Owner]

I think you might want to do a little bit more reading about the Volt and you'll see that people have driven it...

GM has done drives with Volt mules, not a preproduction car.

GM has seen a small increase in market, but they are no profitable. The taxpayer still subsidizes ever car  they sell. GM did see a small increase due to C4C.

If GM is so great, why did they 1) go bust and 2) get nationalised, and 3) live in hand-outs?

[drederick]

I think you might want to do a little bit more reading about the Volt and you'll see that people have driven it...

GM has done drives with Volt mules, not a preproduction car.

GM has seen a small increase in market, but they are no profitable. The taxpayer still subsidizes ever car  they sell. GM did see a small increase due to C4C.

If GM is so great, why did they 1) go bust and 2) get nationalised, and 3) live in hand-outs?

sigh - maybe you need to stop in this thread about the Volt because your knowledge of the Volt is pretty sad:
http://www.auto-power-girl.com/cars-news/2009/10/15/chevrolet/3272/the_last_volt_preproduction_unit_rolled_off.html

In fact - do some searches for pre-production volt or however you want to phrase it....... you may very well learn something doing that and be able to add something factual and true.

Let me guess - you'll bust a 'mule' versus pre-production' something or other nonsense to confuse the point lol

[articsteve]

GM RUNS UNCONVENTIONAL PLAYS TO FUEL CHEVY VOLT

This document, available publicly in The Playmaker's Standard Strategy Map library, illustrates representative influence strategies employed by General Motors Corp. as it enters the hybrid electric auto market (see pp. 3-5).

 Analysis focuses primarily on GM's introduction of the Chevy Volt and related public skepticism from financial analysts, environmental groups and industry watchers.

Using major selected mainstream and social media news sources from Feb. 2006 to Sept. 2008, certified consultants have identified and mapped the discrete influence strategies or "plays" employed by both GM and its critics. The resulting map is drawn from The Playmaker's Table (see p. 6 for glossary) a classification
framework of 25 unique stratagems employed to influence public dialogue.

Principal Findings

-- To revive its flagging corporate reputation and promote the Volt, GM employs a diversity of plays (12 of 25) reflecting a mastery of public influence.

-- GM execs, notably Bob Lutz, freely admit failure and fault, atypical of most large-company play-it-safe media policies.

-- To that end, GM runs counter-intuitive plays (a.k.a. contra-plays) such as the Disco, Bear Hug and Lantern

http://www.plays2run.com/_pdf/GM_Taps_Unconventional_Strategies%20v_7.pdf

[Honda Owner]

drederick, your link points to a mule. It is not a production model or even a preproduction model.

[drederick]

GM RUNS UNCONVENTIONAL PLAYS TO FUEL CHEVY VOLT

This document, available publicly in The Playmaker's Standard Strategy Map library, illustrates representative influence strategies employed by General Motors Corp. as it enters the hybrid electric auto market (see pp. 3-5).

 Analysis focuses primarily on GM's introduction of the Chevy Volt and related public skepticism from financial analysts, environmental groups and industry watchers.

Using major selected mainstream and social media news sources from Feb. 2006 to Sept. 2008, certified consultants have identified and mapped the discrete influence strategies or "plays" employed by both GM and its critics. The resulting map is drawn from The Playmaker's Table (see p. 6 for glossary) a classification
framework of 25 unique stratagems employed to influence public dialogue.

Principal Findings

-- To revive its flagging corporate reputation and promote the Volt, GM employs a diversity of plays (12 of 25) reflecting a mastery of public influence.

-- GM execs, notably Bob Lutz, freely admit failure and fault, atypical of most large-company play-it-safe media policies.

-- To that end, GM runs counter-intuitive plays (a.k.a. contra-plays) such as the Disco, Bear Hug and Lantern

http://www.plays2run.com/_pdf/GM_Taps_Unconventional_Strategies%20v_7.pdf

My God - what is our health care system doing? what the heck is that all about?

-- To that end, GM runs counter-intuitive plays (a.k.a. contra-plays) such as the Disco, Bear Hug and Lantern

Pardon me but 'Disco, Bear Hug and Lantern'?

Is this a joke, right? please please please

I did not read the link - and honestly, why would anyone bother to?

[drederick]

drederick, your link points to a mule. It is not a production model or even a preproduction model.

LOL it seems everyone on earth is calling those Volt's produced pre-production vehicles.

Everyone......... except you! LOL

I guess we need to start contacting all of the media outlets and let them in on the lie!

[Honda Owner]

OK drederick, get a few dozen of your slappie buddies out to yer local Government Motors store and buy them thar Volts up. That is really what GM needs more than anything and I want my money back!

[drederick]

OK drederick, get a few dozen of your slappie buddies out to yer local Government Motors store and buy them thar Volts up. That is really what GM needs more than anything and I want my money back!

Will do!

[articsteve]

I did not read the link - and honestly, why would anyone bother to?

I thought it might be above your pay grade, but some of the more cerebral members might understand it.

Essentially it's a mechanism to influence/control a market place be it the auto industry, social networks. politics, etc.  It can't function without recipients such as yourself. 

 

[drederick]

I did not read the link - and honestly, why would anyone bother to?

I thought it might be above your pay grade, but some of the more cerebral members might understand it.

Essentially it's a mechanism to influence/control a market place be it the auto industry, social networks. politics, etc.  It's can't function without ppl like yourself. 

 

I don't terribly care for Disco.

Now back to the Volt.