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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2008, 04:51:45 am »
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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2008, 07:30:10 am »
Let's get the long story.

Betcha there isn't one, and that the short one is a load of BS as well.

wow, you must be the incompetent lady that i dealt with. Hey, go for it, take your vehicle there.

I don't want to sit here naming names and being explicit with the details. Take the advice or not - don't need your useless commentary.

Speaking of a useless commentary.....

Two posts and zero information. Bye Bye.
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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2008, 09:46:57 am »
Let's get the long story.

Betcha there isn't one, and that the short one is a load of BS as well.

wow, you must be the incompetent lady that i dealt with. Hey, go for it, take your vehicle there.

I don't want to sit here naming names and being explicit with the details. Take the advice or not - don't need your useless commentary.

Speaking of a useless commentary.....

Two posts and zero information. Bye Bye.

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2008, 07:55:25 pm »
If that was your reason for a complaint you really have too much time on your hands as that to me is ridiculous squaking over a 3 day delay in obtaining the car of your choice. I would hate to do business with you for anything as you probably are a real pain in the "Ar-e" to all salespeople.  :(

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2008, 03:24:30 pm »
As the saying in the business goes....

Big Gross = happy customer...and easiest person in the world to get along with.

Skinny Gross = customer who is always unhappy and a stickler for details.
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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2011, 05:46:43 pm »
Let's get the long story.

Betcha there isn't one, and that the short one is a load of BS as well.

wow, you must be the incompetent lady that i dealt with. Hey, go for it, take your vehicle there.

I don't want to sit here naming names and being explicit with the details. Take the advice or not - don't need your useless commentary.

I had a similar experience with them. I had my vehicle brought in for an issue. I picked it up and when i got home, there was damage done to it. I brought it to their attention and the manager infatically said that it couldn't have happened at GM because their guys would tell them if they did the damage because they had no fear of getting fired.The manager argued with me. Strangely unprofessional. No BS here as I'm guessing there was no BS on the other complaint. I now make a point to let all my friends, associates, workmates, clients, relatives,  etc ... not to deal with this company. Some have suggested to complain to BBB .I wish I had noticed the earlier complaint.



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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2011, 10:56:16 pm »
^^ A complaint every three years or so doesn't sound too bad.  ;D

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2011, 06:59:04 am »
Be warned!

I hear you.

I had to take a car in for warranty work at the local Ford dealer. I got it back in worse shape.

Luckily, that was the only time I've ever had to take a car to a dealer in over 30 years of car ownership.
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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2011, 12:54:59 pm »
^^ A complaint every three years or so doesn't sound too bad.  ;D

looks like there are more than that. i'm compiling a list of some (edit: tried to post links but the site won't allow me as i'm a new user). 

anyway here is our story. by the way the BBB's number of complaints will grow as we are in the process of filing one too.

Brought my still brand new 2011 Silverado for first service/oil change (just over 6000km). That was at the end of September 2011. After the service we noticed an oil leak. Brought it back for repairs 5 TIMES and is still leaking oil!!! CARTER'S mechanics took it apart (i.e. dropping transmission etc) 3 different times and truck is still leaking oil. First incompetent mechanic was replaced with another one that ended up braking parts along the way, not putting things back properly. Their service manager RAY NORRIS admitted the mechanic was not using proper tools to put things back together etc.

After having appointment for the 5th time, CARTER GM BURNABY kept the truck for over a week, during which, after our numerous phone calls we could not get any straight answer as to what was going on with our vehicle, when it would be ready. Frustrated we contacted GM CUSTOMER CARE with complaints. DARRYL MOORE (1-800-263-3777 extn. #2384) was initially very sympathetic and promised to have the issue resolved and call us back. A week passed, no call. Upon contacting Mr. MOORE - we were told that CARTER GM BURNABY "detailed our truck toped up our fuel, gave us free rental car so we should be happy and we can always take our business elsewhere". By the way we DID NOT ask to have the truck detailed WE ASKED TO HAVE IT FIXED. Btw the tank was almost full when we brought it in and they topped up the fuel after taking it for test drive twice, each time for an hour. The rental car was only given to us on our 5TH VISIT! Oh did I mention that we live 22km away from CARTER and each time had to take transit home or back to dealer?

EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED, we faxed GM CUSTOMER CARE 6 PAGE COMPLAINT LETTER detailing the events (which we did not describe here….. oh yes there were more) and we asked to have the matter escalated to their managerial level. We emphasized that we need to have the issue resolved and truck fixed as it's been over 2.5 months and the truck is still not repaired and now sitting as we are afraid to use it due to the oil leak. We were assured by GM that the assigned manager will review the case and contact us within 2 business days. That was on Dec 8th. By DEC 12 we still did not hear from GM and when we called them we were told that there is a note on their system that the manager named CRYSTAL (1-800-263-3777 extn. 2821) called us. This is actually the second time this occurred (previously with Mr. DARRYL MOORE) that we were told that someone from GM called us even though we received no calls and no voice mails were left. By the way we have caller ID, voice mail box that is always empty and pretty much are being glued to the phone 24 hrs a day. So from then on it was again cat and mouse game as the GM people would never answer their phones so each time we had to leave a message. Finally we got a call from CRYSTAL (extn 2821) only to be told that she has not even read our complaint and she has yet to review the whole case. She promised to call back the next day but.... you guessed it. No call. Finally on the second day CRYSTAL called and yep ...... you guessed it again we got the "dealer washed your car, topped up fuel etc..." speech. Pretty much go and get lost you unhappy and unreasonable customer. Upon requesting CRYSTAL'S last name so we could have it for our records when we proceed to even higher level, she would not give it to us, instead she just hanged up the phone on us.

By the way no one at GM CUSTOMER DO-NOT-CARE will give you their last name, their e-mail address so you can write to them and provide pictures etc. No one would give you the name of regional service manager (which now I suppose would probably not be of big help either). What are they AFRAID OF? Oh and when you contact them via GM WEB CHAT they’ll be quick to ask you to talk to you over the phone instead so that there is no written record of your complaint.

We love our truck but what is it good to us if we can't use it??? And HAD WE KNOWN ABOUT THE HORRIBLE SERVICE AND LACK OF CUSTOMER SUPPORT WE WOULD HAVE NEVER BOUGHT CHEVROLET GM IT IN FIRST PLACE. Oh did I mention we had it specially factory ordered, waited 12 weeks for delivery and we paid a lot of money for it?

We will discourage anyone we know (one of our friends already changed his mind about purchasing Chevy truck) that wants to buy GM product, Chevrolet etc. and we'll definitely try to prevent anyone from THE DISSERVICE OF CARTER GM BURNABY located at 4550 Lougheed  Hwy, Burnaby, BC V5C 3Z5.

Oh you know what's funny? Previously after we took the truck for repairs and were told they fixed it (even though it wasn’t) each time we were e-mailed GM CANADA LTD. customer satisfaction questionnaire, which we never filled out. Now that we complained, guess what??? - No questionnaire was sent to us. Hmmmmm must be just a coincidence.

One would think that in this tough economic times not only the product quality but especially customer service would be an important part of doing business. I guess not so much. Well rest assured that when both are lacking no amount of factory/dealer discounts and credits will persuade the customer if he/she knows what a terrible headache they’ll have to endure afterwards.

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2011, 01:00:44 pm »
I worked as a lot boy for a GM delaer in the 80's.  Grand Nationals, GTA's, Fieros.. Brakestands, smokey burnouts, threshold braking  in customers cars. Ahhh the memories. ;D

Good times.

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2011, 02:58:35 pm »
I worked as a lot boy for a GM delaer in the 80's.  Grand Nationals, GTA's, Fieros.. Brakestands, smokey burnouts, threshold braking  in customers cars. Ahhh the memories. ;D

Good times.

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2011, 04:48:52 pm »
That is part of the reason I never go to a delaer. As bad as the lot boys were the mechanics were worse.

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2011, 04:57:15 pm »
my 2011 Chevy , I waited 2 months, and the truck was dirty cheap ;D

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2011, 10:21:18 pm »
GM Canada knows only to well that without a Lemon Law they can do as they please.  Under US State Lemon Law it would be a done deal.  You'd be getting a total refund.

GM, Ford and Chysler are horrible in this regard.  Nissan essentially the same.  Toyota, VW, BMW, MB, opposite. 
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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2011, 08:25:05 am »
That is part of the reason I never go to a delaer. As bad as the lot boys were the mechanics were worse.

Worked on a GM lot in the late 80's too, the salesmen were the worst. I remember having to explain that it really wasn't me that put down two 50 foot burnout marks in the garage with the new Corvette convertible destined for the showroom, it was just sales people screwing around.

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2011, 11:20:34 am »
That is part of the reason I never go to a delaer. As bad as the lot boys were the mechanics were worse.

Worked on a GM lot in the late 80's too, the salesmen were the worst. I remember having to explain that it really wasn't me that put down two 50 foot burnout marks in the garage with the new Corvette convertible destined for the showroom, it was just sales people screwing around.

Even the dimmest of lot boys knew you had to head off the lot and out of sight for some good old fashioned hooning. Our wash bays were down the street from the main dealer. That road had more rubber on it than the water trap at a drag strip. I could even get a late 80's Tempest (2.8 V6 IIRC)  to break free by casually dropping into gear at around 4k.

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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2011, 11:23:40 am »
That is part of the reason I never go to a delaer. As bad as the lot boys were the mechanics were worse.

Worked on a GM lot in the late 80's too, the salesmen were the worst. I remember having to explain that it really wasn't me that put down two 50 foot burnout marks in the garage with the new Corvette convertible destined for the showroom, it was just sales people screwing around.

Even the dimmest of lot boys knew you had to head off the lot and out of sight for some good old fashioned hooning. Our wash bays were down the street from the main dealer. That road had more rubber on it than the water trap at a drag strip. I could even get a late 80's Tempest (2.8 V6 IIRC)  to break free by casually dropping into gear at around 4k.

I worked as a lot boy for a Ford dealer when I was about 19. Mustangs always got a good workout :D I remember doing a Rockford turn in a particular Taurus station wagon, Windstars were surprisingly good burnout machines and Lincoln Navigators were really good in the mud if you kept the revs up to keep the tires clear of mud lol......ahhhhhh, to be young again.
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Re: Beware of Dealer!!
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2011, 08:58:03 pm »
That is part of the reason I never go to a delaer. As bad as the lot boys were the mechanics were worse.

the only problems is if it's warranty work you pretty much have no choice.