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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #100 on: August 30, 2008, 03:38:37 am »
I think that Nissan should sell the GT-R as it is, and Infiniti should sell a sedan with a GT-R-based chassis, GT-R engine, four doors, rear-wheel drive, a choice between a six-speed manual and a dual-clutch, Infiniti ride quality and sound deadening, and a more traditional (and more luxurious) Infiniti interior and exterior.

I agree...  an AMG M45 kind of thing.  Now Infiniti just needs a funky moniker for a performance division.  GT-M?   :-\

All the good letters are chosen.  V, M, RS, SS, Type S, Spec V, and the word "Speed" are all gone.  Shyte, Lexus had to go with "F."  How lame is that?  (And yes, I know about Fuji raceway, but "F" became ultra-lame the moment the phrase "F is for fast" started bouncing around the internet).  What's left.  B? 
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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #101 on: August 30, 2008, 08:09:23 am »

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #102 on: August 30, 2008, 09:39:05 am »
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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #103 on: August 30, 2008, 10:59:19 am »
I think that Nissan should sell the GT-R as it is, and Infiniti should sell a sedan with a GT-R-based chassis, GT-R engine, four doors, rear-wheel drive, a choice between a six-speed manual and a dual-clutch, Infiniti ride quality and sound deadening, and a more traditional (and more luxurious) Infiniti interior and exterior.

I agree...  an AMG M45 kind of thing.  Now Infiniti just needs a funky moniker for a performance division.  GT-M?   :-\

All the good letters are chosen.  V, M, RS, SS, Type S, Spec V, and the word "Speed" are all gone.  Shyte, Lexus had to go with "F."  How lame is that?  (And yes, I know about Fuji raceway, but "F" became ultra-lame the moment the phrase "F is for fast" started bouncing around the internet).  What's left.  B? 

Can't just call it

G35R
M45R

.... FX35R (Could you imagine what an abomination that would be?)
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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #104 on: August 30, 2008, 01:40:09 pm »
All the good letters are chosen.  V, M, RS, SS, Type S, Spec V, and the word "Speed" are all gone.  Shyte, Lexus had to go with "F."  How lame is that?  (And yes, I know about Fuji raceway, but "F" became ultra-lame the moment the phrase "F is for fast" started bouncing around the internet).  What's left.  B? 

Can't just call it

G35R
M45R

.... FX35R (Could you imagine what an abomination that would be?)

I dunno, Jaguar might be pissed.  XJR, XKR, S-Type R, etc.  I think they'd want something that didn't reek of imitating an established luxury performance line.

And even though I wasn't serious about the B, I realized Subaru already uses it (Spec B).

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #105 on: August 30, 2008, 01:47:49 pm »
I think that Nissan should sell the GT-R as it is, and Infiniti should sell a sedan with a GT-R-based chassis, GT-R engine, four doors, rear-wheel drive, a choice between a six-speed manual and a dual-clutch, Infiniti ride quality and sound deadening, and a more traditional (and more luxurious) Infiniti interior and exterior.

I agree...  an AMG M45 kind of thing.  Now Infiniti just needs a funky moniker for a performance division.  GT-M?   :-\

All the good letters are chosen.  V, M, RS, SS, Type S, Spec V, and the word "Speed" are all gone.  Shyte, Lexus had to go with "F."  How lame is that?  (And yes, I know about Fuji raceway, but "F" became ultra-lame the moment the phrase "F is for fast" started bouncing around the internet).  What's left.  B? 

Can't just call it

G35R
M45R

.... FX35R (Could you imagine what an abomination that would be?)

G35xR

M45xR

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #106 on: August 30, 2008, 01:56:57 pm »
...hum..since the engine in the GT-Ris a 3.8L, then it should be

G38xR & M38xR...

there that's better ;D

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #107 on: August 30, 2008, 03:55:34 pm »
I think that Nissan should sell the GT-R as it is, and Infiniti should sell a sedan with a GT-R-based chassis, GT-R engine, four doors, rear-wheel drive, a choice between a six-speed manual and a dual-clutch, Infiniti ride quality and sound deadening, and a more traditional (and more luxurious) Infiniti interior and exterior.

I agree...  an AMG M45 kind of thing.  Now Infiniti just needs a funky moniker for a performance division.  GT-M?   :-\

All the good letters are chosen.  V, M, RS, SS, Type S, Spec V, and the word "Speed" are all gone.  Shyte, Lexus had to go with "F."  How lame is that?  (And yes, I know about Fuji raceway, but "F" became ultra-lame the moment the phrase "F is for fast" started bouncing around the internet).  What's left.  B? 

Mitsu/Ralliart has the FQ range, I think everyone knows what FQ stands for...  :skid:
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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #108 on: August 30, 2008, 05:04:23 pm »
All the good letters are chosen.  V, M, RS, SS, Type S, Spec V, and the word "Speed" are all gone.  Shyte, Lexus had to go with "F."  How lame is that?  (And yes, I know about Fuji raceway, but "F" became ultra-lame the moment the phrase "F is for fast" started bouncing around the internet).  What's left.  B? 

Can't just call it

G35R
M45R

.... FX35R (Could you imagine what an abomination that would be?)

I dunno, Jaguar might be pissed.  XJR, XKR, S-Type R, etc.  I think they'd want something that didn't reek of imitating an established luxury performance line.

And even though I wasn't serious about the B, I realized Subaru already uses it (Spec B).

How many people even know that Jaguar uses the R? And besides, it is a trim designation (G35-R) rather than an integral part of the model name, or perhaps just a cool letter to stick on the back.

Audi, BMW, and Merc have good systems. A few flaws here an there though, like BMW X5xDrive4.5i or whatever that abomination is called, and Merc has too many model lines (ie: Mercedes Benz SLK63 AMG Black Edition...does that exist?).

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #109 on: August 30, 2008, 11:37:23 pm »
Volvo and Honda both use "R" as well.

Infiniti could always stick with "Spec V".  Honda/Acura uses similar termonolgy (Type R for Honda and Type S for Acura).  I'd say Infiniti could use "V" (like G35-V), but that might annoy Cadillac...  ;)

Maybe G35-SV.

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #110 on: August 31, 2008, 04:52:54 pm »
Volvo and Honda both use "R" as well.

Infiniti could always stick with "Spec V".  Honda/Acura uses similar termonolgy (Type R for Honda and Type S for Acura).  I'd say Infiniti could use "V" (like G35-V), but that might annoy Cadillac...  ;)

Maybe G35-SV.

Why not go all out.

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #111 on: August 31, 2008, 05:53:25 pm »
How many people even know that Jaguar uses the R? And besides, it is a trim designation (G35-R) rather than an integral part of the model name, or perhaps just a cool letter to stick on the back.

Actually, with Jaguar it's also a trim designation.  The XKR is the high-performance XK coupe.  The XJR is the high-performance XJ sedan.  The S-Type R is the high-performance S-Type sedan.  Etc.

I know it may seem silly to debate this, but considering that BMW sued Infiniti for using the letter M, I can understand a desire to find something unique.

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #112 on: August 31, 2008, 06:42:29 pm »
Why not a NAME? Remember those?

The alphabet soup thing is tiresome and in some cases insipid or misleading such as both the 325i and the 330i sharing a 3.0-litre, inline six-cylinder engine though output is different. MB do the same with the C230 with a 2.5L motor. Odd.

Bikes do the alphabet soup thing too, but at least a person knows that a GSX-R750 has a 750cc motor, the R1 & R6 are a bit more obtuse but represent 1000cc and 600cc respectively.
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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #113 on: August 31, 2008, 07:16:36 pm »
Why not a NAME? Remember those?

Yup.  Let's do some renaming...

Corvette ZR-1 = Corvette Total Ass Kickin' Machine

Ferrari F430 = Ferrari Really Expensive

Nissan GT-R = Nissan All The Technology We Have Here To Go Fast
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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #114 on: August 31, 2008, 08:37:11 pm »
Ignoring all the nurburgring times, accusations of too much electronics, who likes it who doesn't nonsense for a minute.  I'm just over the moon that it is actually being sold in Canada!  :) :) :)

Think back a few years when Evo's, Skyline's, Exiges and the like weren't available, now it looks like manufacturers are opening their eyes to the Canadian motoring enthusiast's market.  A great thing IMHO, and hopefully cross-border shopping will also do it's bit to give a bit of power and choice to the car buyer in Canada.

 :) :) :)

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #115 on: September 01, 2008, 09:38:09 pm »
Ignoring all the nurburgring times, accusations of too much electronics, who likes it who doesn't nonsense for a minute.  I'm just over the moon that it is actually being sold in Canada!  :) :) :)

Think back a few years when Evo's, Skyline's, Exiges and the like weren't available, now it looks like manufacturers are opening their eyes to the Canadian motoring enthusiast's market.  A great thing IMHO, and hopefully cross-border shopping will also do it's bit to give a bit of power and choice to the car buyer in Canada.

 :) :) :)

Except when it comes to the Elise/ExigeS.

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #116 on: September 02, 2008, 02:06:28 am »
Why not a NAME? Remember those?

The alphabet soup thing is tiresome and in some cases insipid or misleading such as both the 325i and the 330i sharing a 3.0-litre, inline six-cylinder engine though output is different. MB do the same with the C230 with a 2.5L motor. Odd.

Bikes do the alphabet soup thing too, but at least a person knows that a GSX-R750 has a 750cc motor, the R1 & R6 are a bit more obtuse but represent 1000cc and 600cc respectively.

But when did the highest performance trim level have a name?  Even with the 1967 Camaro, there was the "Camaro SS."  Even with the 1965 Mustang, there was the "Mustang GT." 

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #117 on: September 02, 2008, 12:08:53 pm »
Doesn't "SS" stand for Super Sport, though?  ;)

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #118 on: September 02, 2008, 12:48:44 pm »
RS was "Rally Sport" and SS was "Super Sport"

The very desirable RS/SS combo meant you had a Rally Sport Super Sport.  I am just thinking back now...

"Hey Sport, that's a Rally Sport Super Sport Camaro!  You're looking sporty sporting those lambchops!"

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Re: CTC Review: 2009 Nissan GT-R
« Reply #119 on: September 04, 2008, 01:09:58 am »
Found this picture today and it's from Ottawa!  There can't be that many GT-Rs running around the city.  :rofl2:

Intelligence, GT-R Ownership Officially Independent Of One Another
Where's the "rolls eyes" icon when you need it? This sad GT-R owner in Canada has taken internet language to the streets, picking a fight against Corvette owners in the manner of an adorable little LOLcat. (If you don't get it, he's saying his Nissan would blow the doors off a Z06.) Obviously, the picture seems ripe for jokes and hilarious photoshops. And luckly, we've got the Car Lounge. See more through the forum link below.

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