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« on: August 05, 2008, 07:52:46 am » |
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For those that were wondering what was up when I said "I have something better planned" for the STi. Here you go: http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/cc/evo-versus-sti.htm
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 09:19:19 am » |
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Maybe I missed it, but what tires were on the Evo and did that perhaps play a part to the slower times? |
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 09:28:26 am » |
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EVO has Yokohama A13's, STi Dunlop GS3 I believe. |
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 10:51:40 am » |
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It shouldn't be any surprise for the MR's higher 0-60 mph number. In every single comparison, the MR was the slowest to 60 mph when compared to the STI and GSR. I think the usual ranking is STI, GSR and MR. I've never see any time over 6 seconds though.
However, in any comparison, the Evo (GSR or MR) is clearly faster than the STI around the track or mountain roads (Edmunds).
Wing's findings are consistent with every other auto outlet I can recall, and they all pick the Evo in the end as the best performance car.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 11:16:54 am » |
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Mitsubishi has a winner with their TC-SST transmission. It seems to always be a key factor when the EVO10 is reviewed or tested. The engineers at Mitsubishi seem to have achieved a perfect setup with their twin clutch automated transmission. Some reviews in publication even say they have surpassed and bested VW’s DSG transmission.
Mitsubishi spent their time concentrating on the harder, more complicated transmission/Drive-train setup, the electronics to control it, and it has paid off on the track
I’m not sure if there are many places that can improve on the electronics that control the EVO’s handling… and I don’t think you’d need to, but there are tuners and after market Bolt-On parts available already that can quickly improve the EVO’s engine performance and characteristics.
Lots of great cars could be even better with a transmission like the EVO’s. How would the STI’s numbers have been if it also had a Twin clutch transmission?
Nissan also knows how to make an excellent Dual clutch transmission in the GTR. Many articles also credit the GTR’s performance number to its transmission. So how come Nissan insists on shoving a CVT down your throat when you buy their other vehicles? Is it purely for financial gain as they own the largest CVT transmission company?
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 03:42:20 pm » |
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Finally! a comparo on CTC…..good job. |
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 03:42:57 pm » |
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..nice knees Wing...............  |
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THERE IS NO CURE FOR "LOTUS"......ONLY TREATMENT.....
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 02:35:06 pm » |
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His average times in each car were 64.18 seconds in the Mitsubishi - including one "slow" run at 66.487, where leaving stability control engaged slowed him down significantly  So how come Nissan insists on shoving a CVT down your throat when you buy their other vehicles? Is it purely for financial gain as they own the largest CVT transmission company?
I'm sure the CVTs (and the traditional slushbox) will eventually be dying out in favour of the DSGs. It's just a matter of time, and the sooner the better. The CVT is a real deal breaker for me. I hate them! |
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 02:39:02 pm » |
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3 seconds slower with it engaged it was brutal! |
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 07:51:02 pm » |
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Great article JB! |
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Power is how fast you hit the wall... Torque is how far you take the wall with you! 
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