Author Topic: Chang Jiang with CJ 750 Sidecar (Read 9622 times)

Arthur Dent · « **on:** July 29, 2008, 09:53:30 am »

A pile of these Chang Jiang CJ 750 motor bikes with sidecars showed up at the local show. Must have been some owners getting together because I've never seen one before never mind six in southern Alberta of all places. Anyway I'm not really a big bike guy but I really liked these. Its a Chinese replica of a BMW R71 classic motor cycle. Tooling was sold to the Russians who later traded it to the Chinese for a bunch of apples and eggs (seriously). Great looking bike - one of the owners was saying it was a bear to keep on the road though - always needing adjustments and tuning. But it was designed in the 30s I believe.

erich · « **Reply #1 on:** July 29, 2008, 06:52:31 pm »

My uncle worked in the USSR in the late '50s and came back with a K750 motorcycle. Unfortuantely, garage and motorcycle burned down soon after.
I don't think the tooling was sold the the Russians, rather they just took it as compensation after WWII.

rrocket · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2008, 07:12:04 pm »

The Russians built these under the "URAL" nametag, and can still be bought brand spanking new. AND can be driven in the winter with the optional 2WD sidecar set-up. Very cool indeed.

safristi · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2008, 09:04:57 pm »

as my Uralogists sez......driven in Winter it would be exceedingly COOL.....Brrrr ass monkey Kool....

PJungnitsch · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2008, 09:31:50 pm »

Quote from: erich on July 29, 2008, 06:52:31 pm

I don't think the tooling was sold the the Russians, rather they just took it as compensation after WWII.

The Russians took the tooling for the overhead valve R75 BMW in '45. That's why they sold the tooling for the flathead R71's (they got prewar from the Reich) to the Chinese in the 50's.

Real living fossils.

Serniter · « **Reply #5 on:** August 05, 2008, 12:57:10 pm »

Are the Chinese building these now? Why?!

There is an old British design still manufactured in India. However, these motorcycles are now rare and aren't purchased for any practical reason:

http://www.royalenfield.com/app/IN/Products/Bullet350.asp

safristi · « **Reply #6 on:** August 05, 2008, 01:58:13 pm »

Now we know wot happened to Drivesideways & Meow.................

..nice honeymoon shots...

Arthur Dent · « **Reply #7 on:** August 05, 2008, 02:11:43 pm »

I believe they are still being built now.

PJungnitsch · « **Reply #8 on:** August 05, 2008, 04:20:56 pm »

Found a picture of one I took in Beijing back in 1991.

CSH · « **Reply #9 on:** August 06, 2008, 03:33:40 pm »

Quote from: Serniter on August 05, 2008, 12:57:10 pm

Are the Chinese building these now? Why?!

There is an old British design still manufactured in India. However, these motorcycles are now rare and aren't purchased for any practical reason:

http://www.royalenfield.com/app/IN/Products/Bullet350.asp

OH no there are plenty of them in Indian roads, still being built and quite a few of them are exported to the USA every year..

Serniter · « **Reply #10 on:** August 06, 2008, 04:52:45 pm »

I didn't know they were on sale in USA! Can you direct me to a retailer?

I'm aware they're still being built. Aren't the numbers really small, though, compared to mainstream motorcycles?

rrocket · « **Reply #11 on:** August 06, 2008, 05:43:49 pm »

Quote from: Serniter on August 06, 2008, 04:52:45 pm

I didn't know they were on sale in USA! Can you direct me to a retailer?

I'm aware they're still being built. Aren't the numbers really small, though, compared to mainstream motorcycles?

Here you go. There is a dealer in NJ.

http://www.imz-ural.com/products/

Guy · « **Reply #12 on:** August 08, 2008, 08:28:12 am »

I saw one when I was in Shanghai earlier this year. It looked brand new.

erich · « **Reply #13 on:** August 08, 2008, 12:51:12 pm »

And you can find them in Calgary too:

www.scootgo.com

casa35 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2009, 12:34:00 am »

I own the bikes in the pictures.

If anyone is looking to buy one please contact me. I have bought 24 of them and have 10 left for sale. They are located in Brooks Alberta, and I invite all to come and have a look and take one for a test drive.

Also if you want to see a few more pictures you can check out www kijiji ca (calgary) type in CJ750 sidecar... or just e-mail me for some inforamtion at casa35@hotmail.com

Wolverine · « **Reply #15 on:** February 02, 2009, 02:39:09 pm »

A friend of my uncle had a Jawa (think is from late Yugoslavia or something) with a sidecar back in Cuba, it was amazing to ride in the sidecar.

barrie1 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2009, 08:35:03 pm »

Reminds me of the old Harleys and Indian Bikes of that era. Very nice looking designs but heavy looking. Should ride fairly well but not fast I would think. Nice intown cruiser.

rrocket · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2009, 08:39:30 pm »

Can drive them in the winter with the optional 2WD sidecar...sweet!

EV Dan · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2009, 10:45:06 pm »

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Great looking bike - one of the owners was saying it was a bear to keep on the road though

He's right, and its even more fun without the sidecar

IIRC they (URALs) have a shaft drive and a reverse which back in the day set them apart from everything else.

blur911 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 03, 2009, 12:18:59 pm »

Quote from: DanYanoff on February 02, 2009, 10:45:06 pm

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Great looking bike - one of the owners was saying it was a bear to keep on the road though

He's right, and its even more fun without the sidecar

I think me means that the Chinese ones are hard to keep running, not that they are fun.
Personally I can't imagine wanting a copy of a copy of a bike designed 80 years ago and made with materials probably inferior to the original.