Topic: GM closing Oshawa truck plant

[safristi]

they could build anuffer SKY_RAPER .....73rd Floor Chinese Tsotchkes...

[initial_D]

The Canadian Auto Workers union has been ordered by a judge to end its blockade of General Motors Corp.'s Canadian headquarters in Oshawa, Ont., by Monday morning.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=5b11790c-450c-4302-89df-a330e45dde57

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Now what? Stop making trucks?

[pianoman8849]

Yes, I'm disturbed by the loss of jobs this will cause, but, as other people have said...GM knew this was coming.

Hey!! You have to start living in the 21st century. Gas guzzling trucks and SUV's are on the way out and alternative vehicles such as hybrids is the technology of today. So, stop the trucks but don't scrap the jobs...teach them how to build hybrids and GM, start bringing out more of them and better choices too.

Right now, trying to buy a hybrid has a longer waiting list than many of our hospitals.......

[barrie1]

Piannoman8849 Welcome to the Forum, The lists can be quite long at the majority of our Hospitals depending which type of electic surjury you require done. I am over a year right now waiting for a hip transplant but it now will be done this coming Friday the 20th for sure. I think Hybirds are build a little quicker then this. 

[safristi]

..I had electic surjury...and i turned out fine......

[Zoo]

..I had electic surjury...and i turned out fine......

 


 
 
 

[initial_D]

An interesting article not in favor of the union and its tactics.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/francis/archive/2008/06/16/175118.aspx

[barrie1]

Another pile of nonsence from a writer who definitely has NO clue at all. 

[rrocket]

We know Barrie...the only one's who have a clue are the one's who work for the CAW.  I mean..look at the great job they've done keeping plants open in Canada....

[mrthompson]

CAW, CAW!  Would you like fries with that?

[safristi]

....BUZZ OFF..... ...i had no birdies taday.....just BOGEY_MENS

[toolatecrew]

If CAW is so effective at producing a quality vehicle at a competative price why are companies closing CAW plants in such a high number. Certainly the big 3 are not in the kind of financial shape where they can close plants that are more productive and cost effective than other plants simply to prove a point or becuase of some vendetta against the CAW can they?

The CAW is supposed to "protect" their workers. I would think that having a job would be the priority to protect but apparently its not. Supposedly CAW represents strength in numbers but how much strenght do 1000s of jobless union members have? If you don;t have a job what effect does "striking" have?

I think its time to look at the big picture here folks. If GM was building the best cars at the best price then they would be sucessful. They have been losing money so they pobviously have not (in the past) been building best cars for best price. So they need to change and build better more conmpettive and desirebale cars.

If the CAW was providing the "best" build quality/cost ratio available then companies would want to build cars in those plants. Obviously they are not doing that. If they were those plants would not be closing. So why does for example GM need to change and do better but CAW need do nothing better to compete but simply wants to keep the jobs "because"?  Regardless of union bashing or big 3 bashing lets look at reality. Those plants are closing for a reason. If the CAW isn't willing to understand and counteract those reasons what's the point?

[Rupert]

The statements of Toolate make sense to me. It's no good having quality if the price is not right for both customer and company. Add to this a suddenly un-wanted product type and the stage is set for withdrawal. Government initiatives use tax dollars of unassociated payers who have no way of striking for more wages and benefits. The picture in this respect is out of whack.

[tenpenny]

And now I see that Magna is laying off 400 in St Thomas, where they make the frames for GM.

[safristi]

..UNIONS..sacrifice...members ALL the TIME...they are as expedient as EXXON.....or a strip KLUB OWNER...take it from a family experience.......

[tenpenny]

Careful, you never know when the axle fall.

[Turbo Bob]

If I recall the statistics, 35% or so of Canadian Tire's stuff comes from China, and they're planning to increase that to well over 50% as well.

Why do people moan about this sort of thing (not accusing you tp).  This is consumer driven, you demand lower prices, which drives lower production costs. They only way to change it is to support your local shops/farms/car plants/whatever, and suck up the additional cost.