Topic: Big 3 sales share at all-time low

[drederick]

How are YOUR Toyota sales, anyway? ha ha ha

Fantastic 

The Big Three experienced their lowest level in market share primarily because of a poor month at GM, the industry leader, and a strong performance by Toyota. GM sales plunged 16.4 per cent or almost 6,000 vehicles to 30,208 in March.

Lets balance this out with the following:
http://www.autospectator.com/cars/general-motors-corporate/0038491-gm-canada-reports-february-2008-sales-results

March 3, 2008 – For February 2008, General Motors of Canada dealers delivered 26,501 units representing an increase of 14% over the same month last year.

“February’s growth was driven by a 33.1% increase in car sales and the strength of our recently launched products,” said Marc Comeau, GM of Canada’s vice-president of sales, service, and marketing. “The award winning Chevrolet Malibu, Cadillac CTS and Saturn Astra are gaining momentum and our family of crossover utility vehicles continue to see monthly increases. The all-new Pontiac Vibe is arriving in dealerships this month.”

and also this:

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=839000

CALENDAR YEAR-TO-DATE: March 31st, 2008
                          2008          2007          % CHG
TOTAL CARS         39,520        33,713         +17.2%
TOTAL TRUCKS      43,743        48,306         -9.4%
COMBINED VEHICLES       83,263        82,019           +1.5%

GM Canada March 2008 Sales Results
(Data is not adjusted for the difference in selling days; March 2008 had 25 selling days vs. March 2007 with 28 selling days)
OSHAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - April 1, 2008) - For March 2008, General Motors of Canada dealers delivered 30,208 units representing 16.4% decrease over the same month last year.

"Despite a softer March than we would have liked, GM is holding it's own in Canada, up 1.5% for the first quarter, driven by a strong 17.2% quarterly increase in car sales,"



So once again you are pathetic.

Oh so GM vehicle sales are actually UP 1.5 percent for the first quarter!

I still want to know how YOUR toyota sales are LOL what percentage are they up or down

[articsteve]

So once again you are pathetic.

Me thinks you have a disorder.  You should have it checked out.   

Just quoting Dennis DesRosiers.  You should send him your ravings.

The Big Three experienced their lowest level in market share primarily because of a poor month at GM, the industry leader, and a strong performance by Toyota. GM sales plunged 16.4 per cent or almost 6,000 vehicles to 30,208 in March.

Fuelled by business for the new Corolla compact and Matrix crossover vehicles, Toyota's sales jumped 13.1 per cent to 20,649 in March. It also sold more cars in Canada than GM.

All I see in those numbers is GM plunging and Toyota rising (like the sun  )

I read today this:

April 4, 2008 at 11:30 AM EDT

NEW YORK — A private equity group said Friday it has terminated its agreement to invest $2.55-billion (U.S.) in auto parts supplier Delphi Corp., which has been trying to emerge from bankruptcy protection.

The announcement by hedge fund Appaloosa Management LP could have major consequences for General Motors Corp., which once owned Delphi until it was spun off in 1999. Delphi is still GM's biggest parts supplier.

The Appaloosa-led investment was an essential pillar in Delphi's reorganization, which has been held up because of a tight credit market. The loss of the deal puts Delphi's plan to exit bankruptcy at risk.

Appaloosa's announcement came as Delphi faced a Friday deadline to raise $6.1-billion in loans to help it out of bankruptcy.

The above, the fact that GMAC is facked for credit markets, and the American Axle strike, puts GM in a free fall.  I predict GM USA will be in Chapter 11 in 2009.  They got themselves a Perfect Storm.

[dorin]

Just remember there are alot of people out there who don't care about gas prices and will always drive whatever they so choose.

As long as those people don't whine about the price of gas then I guess they can choose to drive gas-guzzlers.  However the vast majority of people who chose to drive gas-guzzlers are also the ones who whine constantly about the price of gas.  I have no sympathy for those people.

[jcon]

As long as those people don't whine about the price of gas then I guess they can choose to drive gas-guzzlers.  However the vast majority of people who chose to drive gas-guzzlers are also the ones who whine constantly about the price of gas.  I have no sympathy for those people.

But why do we still have to listen to them whine at nausea...

[drederick]

So once again you are pathetic.

Me thinks you have a disorder.  You should have it checked out.   

Just quoting Dennis DesRosiers.  You should send him your ravings.

The Big Three experienced their lowest level in market share primarily because of a poor month at GM, the industry leader, and a strong performance by Toyota. GM sales plunged 16.4 per cent or almost 6,000 vehicles to 30,208 in March.

Fuelled by business for the new Corolla compact and Matrix crossover vehicles, Toyota's sales jumped 13.1 per cent to 20,649 in March. It also sold more cars in Canada than GM.

All I see in those numbers is GM plunging and Toyota rising (like the sun  )

I read today this:

April 4, 2008 at 11:30 AM EDT

NEW YORK — A private equity group said Friday it has terminated its agreement to invest $2.55-billion (U.S.) in auto parts supplier Delphi Corp., which has been trying to emerge from bankruptcy protection.

The announcement by hedge fund Appaloosa Management LP could have major consequences for General Motors Corp., which once owned Delphi until it was spun off in 1999. Delphi is still GM's biggest parts supplier.

The Appaloosa-led investment was an essential pillar in Delphi's reorganization, which has been held up because of a tight credit market. The loss of the deal puts Delphi's plan to exit bankruptcy at risk.

Appaloosa's announcement came as Delphi faced a Friday deadline to raise $6.1-billion in loans to help it out of bankruptcy.

The above, the fact that GMAC is facked for credit markets, and the American Axle strike, puts GM company is a free fall.  I predict GM USA will be in Chapter 11 in 2009.  They got themselves a Perfect Storm.

Disorder? Plunging like the sun? explain February sales for GM - or the first quarter sales being up.

The only disorder is yours - you have proven time and time again you actually don't know anything about Toyota, let alone GM or any other manufacturer.

Just for a luagh re-read what you wrote regarding the NEW 1.8 in the Matrix/Vibe/Corolla in my sig below - sad sad sad

As for GM going chapter 11, you really believe that? once again it shows just how little you know.

When your prediction of GM going chapter 11 is shown to be wrong will you actually admit you don't know what your writing about?

This prediction is like all of the other things your write - short on any kind of proof to back it up - other than your 'knowledge' LOL

[Wetson]

Hey Wing... we need a cat emoticon so we can show ' Cat Fight ' 

[articsteve]

Plunging like the sun?

I believe I said this: Toyota rising (like the sun )


explain February sales for GM - or the first quarter sales being up.


Can't live in the past dude.  
 

 "Beware the Ides of March,"  

[PJungnitsch]

They will be screwed even more and very soon. If the 1.40 gas price prediction comes true it will be VERY difficult to convince anybody most of us to buy a TUNDRA or IS-F no matter how cool it may be.

Fixed.  Gas prices are making ALL companies scramble.  Nobody selling cars in North America was really prepared for the spike in gas prices we've seen over the last few years.

What you are missing is that the domestics are truck makers that sell cars on the side. The imports are car makers that happen to sell a few trucks.

I worked out the numbers for Feb and in Canada Ford sold a grand total of 4 cars per dealer. Toyota sold 27.

[drederick]

Plunging like the sun?

I believe I said this: Toyota rising (like the sun )


explain February sales for GM - or the first quarter sales being up.


Can't live in the past dude.  
 

 "Beware the Ides of March,"  

The past - as in February?

Beware the what?

For you it should be rw-written to say:
"Beware the things I write because they are not backed up by real knowledge of the subject"

So again - will there be an admission you really have no clue when GM is not in Chapter 11 in 2009?

[EV Dan]

They will be screwed even more and very soon. If the 1.40 gas price prediction comes true it will be VERY difficult to convince anybody most of us to buy a TUNDRA or IS-F no matter how cool it may be.

Fixed.  Gas prices are making ALL companies scramble.  Nobody selling cars in North America was really prepared for the spike in gas prices we've seen over the last few years.

What you are missing is that the domestics are truck makers that sell cars on the side. The imports are car makers that happen to sell a few trucks.

I worked out the numbers for Feb and in Canada Ford sold a grand total of 4 cars per dealer. Toyota sold 27.

The domestics used to be both when the market wasn't wide open to the Asians. Now with unionized workers plus little spent on engineering (in comparison) they are clinging to the last niche they still control - trucks. Once Toyota flashes the right firmware into their V8s and fixes a few other bugs the game pretty much will be over. I'm exaggerating of course but todays customer knows world markets better and is not as brand loyal as before, basing their buying decision on stats, specs, design, comfort and other things rather than "buy domestic - save jobs".Today trucks is the last bastion but in 5-10 years there might be no engine left to start not  because of oil shortage but because the new tech will be much more affordable. You know whos got the cutting edge today, anyone "big" among them?

[drederick]

They will be screwed even more and very soon. If the 1.40 gas price prediction comes true it will be VERY difficult to convince anybody most of us to buy a TUNDRA or IS-F no matter how cool it may be.

Fixed.  Gas prices are making ALL companies scramble.  Nobody selling cars in North America was really prepared for the spike in gas prices we've seen over the last few years.

What you are missing is that the domestics are truck makers that sell cars on the side. The imports are car makers that happen to sell a few trucks.

I worked out the numbers for Feb and in Canada Ford sold a grand total of 4 cars per dealer. Toyota sold 27.

Actually what you are missing is a FACT that GM and Ford and Chryslers truck sales are still very good today, and have been great for years.

Lets look at GM because that is what I know.

For years GM sold lots of trucks but didnt have competetive cars to sell those same truck buyers - so many of those truck buyers love their trucks but bought non-GM cars.

Now GM has got the great idea to offer competetive cars like the Malibu.

GM has the traffic in form of Truck buyers past and present - now they just need to get them to buy a GM car as well.

How easy will that be? no clue but even if they capture 30 percent of those truck buyers to buy GM cars - that is huge, right? heck even 10 percent is huge.

[safristi]

Let's put it this way if I had 50 nickels to rub together I wouldn't be putting it in FORD /GM or CHRYSLERS shares unless I was a gambler and SHORTED THEM..............there are hundreds of better venues to spend your pennies on (while they are still extant!!)
 and same goes for 95% of their products..........

[drederick]

Let's put it this way if I had 50 nickels to rub together I wouldn't be putting it in FORD /GM or CHRYSLERS shares unless I was a gambler and SHORTED THEM..............there are hundreds of better venues to spend your pennies on (while they are still extant!!)
 and same goes for 95% of their products..........

Way to go - a post that actually makes good use of the english language. What happened?

[safristi]

  I wised UP 10 years ago and bought a shipload of OIL/Gas/and GOLD.....and stayed away from the BIG 3...........whilst taking "English" as a third language..... ..............Och aye tha Noo......Oyo como va !!!...........