Topic: Dangerous SIGNAL lights. Poor design. Hyundau Santa Fe.

[Guy]

Was following a new Jetta last night. The turn signal is only the outer half of the round taillight, and red also. Not very visible.

[Allen]

maybe you need glasses

[Guy]

I do, and I was wearing them at the time. I probably need a prescription windshield then. 

[si]

Was following a new Jetta last night. The turn signal is only the outer half of the round taillight, and red also. Not very visible.

In EU & OZ, the middle is their amber turning signal.. funny VW would engineer both designs

[ktm525]

Was following a new Jetta last night. The turn signal is only the outer half of the round taillight, and red also. Not very visible.

Similar to what the Hyundai did.

[sirAQUAMAN64]

The non-NA ones look even better imo... they break up the "sea of red" that the NA ones have.

That would make for a great mid-cycle freshening.

[dorin]

OOPs just noticed my first post I meant the SIGNAL lights were weak, far placed and washed out. 

Hey KTM, how about going back and edit the first post so you can change the thread title to "Dangerous Turn Signal Lights.  Poor Design. Hyundai Santa Fe."? 

[ktm525]

OOPs just noticed my first post I meant the SIGNAL lights were weak, far placed and washed out. 

Hey KTM, how about going back and edit the first post so you can change the thread title to "Dangerous Turn Signal Lights.  Poor Design. Hyundai Santa Fe."? 

Done.

[Bullet Blue]

The TL's signal lights a bit poor as well. I don't get why manufacturers go out of their way to make a different set of signal lights for one market, and have a different set of lights for another.

I think the worst are brake lights that double as signal lights like the F150 and many others (mostly american I've noticed too). That means if your tail light burns out, so does your signal light. Very dangerous.

[Cord]

I think the worst are brake lights that double as signal lights like the F150 and many others (mostly american I've noticed too). That means if your tail light burns out, so does your signal light. Very dangerous.

You sure about that? If they used the same light then there would be no turn signal while braking.

[random006]

I think the worst are brake lights that double as signal lights like the F150 and many others (mostly american I've noticed too). That means if your tail light burns out, so does your signal light. Very dangerous.

You sure about that? If they used the same light then there would be no turn signal while braking.

I've seen non functioning brake/signal clusters enough times to believe that at the very least, those cars share the same wiring / fuse somewhere along the line, if not the actual bulb.

[Bullet Blue]

I think the worst are brake lights that double as signal lights like the F150 and many others (mostly american I've noticed too). That means if your tail light burns out, so does your signal light. Very dangerous.

You sure about that? If they used the same light then there would be no turn signal while braking.

I've seen non functioning brake/signal clusters enough times to believe that at the very least, those cars share the same wiring / fuse somewhere along the line, if not the actual bulb.

Right, may not be the actually bulb, but the wiring must be similar. Saw it today actually where I was behind a Sunfire in the left turn lane, his left brake light was out, but he had his signal on (I could see it's reflection blinking from the Ram ahead of it).

[tpl]

Was following a new Jetta last night. The turn signal is only the outer half of the round taillight, and red also. Not very visible.

In EU & OZ, the middle is their amber turning signal.. funny VW would engineer both designs

I don't understand it either. Audi does it and now BMW does it as well on the 3er. One of those things where TC could usefully regulate.

[PJungnitsch]

The Murano's have their brake lights in LED's. Strikingly bright, at night anyway.

[Bullet Blue]

Was following a new Jetta last night. The turn signal is only the outer half of the round taillight, and red also. Not very visible.

In EU & OZ, the middle is their amber turning signal.. funny VW would engineer both designs

I don't understand it either. Audi does it and now BMW does it as well on the 3er.

The X5 has it and the newest 5 series does as well (albeit LED)

Mercedes-Benz has red LED's on the new C-class too

[Squishy]

I think the worst are brake lights that double as signal lights like the F150 and many others (mostly american I've noticed too). That means if your tail light burns out, so does your signal light. Very dangerous.

You sure about that? If they used the same light then there would be no turn signal while braking.

Most of them, as far as I know, use a dual-filament bulb.  Normally just one or the other filament burns out (usually the brake/tailllight one) but in the case of a catastrophic failure the other filament could be damaged.

[Schmengie]

I was following a "new" Hyundai Santa Fe and was astonished at how inconspicuous and weak the SIGNAL lights were. The small lights are lost in the all red tailight design and are situated at the very edges. The weak light output was washed out in the afternoon glare. Bad bad bad. What was Hyundai thinking?

I totally agree. Those signal lamps are so weak and poorly positioned I'm amazed they passed safety regulations. The housings are huge, so it's not like there's no room for adequate lights.