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« Reply #100 on: March 11, 2010, 11:30:49 am »

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However, the really frustrating part with BMW is that any late model unit (say a 09 335 or M3 for that matter) already has daytime running lights, kph on the speedo and child seat anchors in place. When one speaks to BMW Canada (who are actually being sued currently over this whole importation thing and safety recall letter fiasco) they shug their shoulders and say go speak to one of their dealers. You call the dealer and tell them that you're interested in bringing back a 09 335i (for example) and that it already has the stuff necessary for importaion and they say something like "Oh, well we need to ensure those DRL's are 'permanently" turned on! That will be $2000 please. Just crazy.
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« Reply #101 on: March 11, 2010, 12:13:42 pm »

I'd actually say that Transport Canada are the bad guys here. They're actually letting the car companies decide (by default) what can and can't be imported and what needs to be done to US cars. That's TC's mandate and they're definitely falling down on the job. Angry
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« Reply #102 on: March 11, 2010, 01:04:43 pm »

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« Reply #103 on: March 11, 2010, 01:16:20 pm »

I'd actually say that Transport Canada are the bad guys here. They're actually letting the car companies decide (by default) what can and can't be imported and what needs to be done to US cars. That's TC's mandate and they're definitely falling down on the job. Angry
IMHO  TC are bad in that they just implement US regs without thought.  Without considering that, say, allowing ECE regs would improve choice for Canadians and make no essential difference to emissions or crash tests.
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« Reply #104 on: March 11, 2010, 02:50:42 pm »

If your buying a used Bimmer in the USA all you need is a US BMW dealer's letterhead stating that all recalls are up to date on that particular vehicle.  Moreover, the authenticity of these letters are never checked.  It's just a formality.  BMW Canada is never notified for approval.  Just don't expect warranty.

If the loonie hits parity soon it's gonna be a very busy summer at the border.
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« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2010, 06:44:32 pm »

No new information here. The point is to have the warranty.
It is going to be busy though.
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« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2010, 09:44:41 pm »

No new information here. The point is to have the warranty.

Really?  Most ppl that post on this subject think that they need a compliance letter from either the Canadian or American Head Office.  You don't.

As for the warranty one needs to get over that.  American BMWs/Porsche are a classic example of benefit divided by risk as one is getting the car for a significant discount which mitigates the risk.  If you have a catastrophic failure you haul it down to Buffalo.  Smiley
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« Reply #107 on: March 11, 2010, 10:04:52 pm »

No new information here. The point is to have the warranty.

Really?  Most ppl that post on this subject think that they need a compliance letter from either the Canadian or American Head Office.  You don't.

As for the warranty one needs to get over that.  American BMWs/Porsche are a classic example of benefit divided by risk as one is getting the car for a significant discount which mitigates the risk.  If you have a catastrophic failure you haul it down to Buffalo.  Smiley
So I should buy a trailer with my M3 eh! Nice. Pass. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #108 on: March 11, 2010, 10:13:06 pm »

Where there is a will, there is a way.  Smiley
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« Reply #109 on: March 12, 2010, 05:26:00 am »

My daughter's 08 Tribeca (imported in Oct 07) is about to go out of base warranty because of milage.Subaru USA has reimbused her for the two warranty repairs she has had done here and paid for herself but even if they hadn't it would have been....

Costs....about $235

Savings over buying in Canada.....about $13,000

AS has a point. Although I agree with Railton that the various companies should honour warranty regardless of where their car was retailed.
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« Reply #110 on: March 12, 2010, 06:10:19 am »

No new information here. The point is to have the warranty.

Really?  Most ppl that post on this subject think that they need a compliance letter from either the Canadian or American Head Office.  You don't.

As for the warranty one needs to get over that.  American BMWs/Porsche are a classic example of benefit divided by risk as one is getting the car for a significant discount which mitigates the risk.  If you have a catastrophic failure you haul it down to Buffalo.  Smiley
So I should buy a trailer with my M3 eh! Nice. Pass. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #111 on: March 12, 2010, 08:25:46 am »

The CAD dollar hit 0.985 this AM.
I got the truck already, I need the real estate space for the trailer though. Can you rent those things?
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« Reply #112 on: March 12, 2010, 08:36:27 am »

You can rent a flatbed trailer from Uhaul for like $50 a day not too bad.
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« Reply #113 on: March 12, 2010, 10:39:11 am »

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« Reply #114 on: March 12, 2010, 05:01:21 pm »

No new information here. The point is to have the warranty.

Buy the right car and chances are very good that you won't need it.

Of all the cars I've bought new (Ford, Toyota, BMW and Honda), only the Ford needed extensive warranty work. The others never needed any warranty work at all.
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« Reply #115 on: March 13, 2010, 02:05:34 am »

At parity, if BMW Canada honoured USA Bimmers warranty claims every BMW showroom in Ontario might as well lock the doors and be service centres only.

Worse for the Mini.

Stock Cooper S in the USA:  $23,500 USD, freight in.

Canada:  $31,400. CDN, freight and PDI in.




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« Reply #116 on: March 13, 2010, 05:42:54 am »

Let me get this straight AS. Are you saying you can get BMW's through the RIV process and licensed in Canada without paying all the BMW "modification" fees but if you don't jump through their hoops you don't get warranty?
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« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2010, 07:46:15 am »

If your buying a used Bimmer in the USA all you need is a US BMW dealer's letterhead stating that all recalls are up to date on that particular vehicle.

In fact, based on a recent Honda purchase in the US, the person I know who brought back a fully loaded 2008 V6 Accord didn't even deal with anybody but RIV. Honda Canada won't even give you a letter, period. So he got one from the dealer he bought it from in the US.

The whole process was seamless he said.

This having to pay rip-off dollars to any manufacturer up here is the usual protectionist Canadian BS that we have always had to deal with. If they can't handle the competition, then I suggest they take up basket weaving!
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« Reply #118 on: March 13, 2010, 07:55:04 am »

AS has a point. Although I agree with Railton that the various companies should honour warranty regardless of where their car was retailed.

After all, if I go to the US on a four month winter vacation, is (manufacturer) Canada going to tell me they won't honour the warranty while I am out of the country? BS!
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« Reply #119 on: March 13, 2010, 12:56:12 pm »

Let me get this straight AS. Are you saying you can get BMW's through the RIV process and licensed in Canada without paying all the BMW "modification" fees but if you don't jump through their hoops you don't get warranty?

If Articsteve believes this, he is a bit misinformed.
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