Topic: Nissan Rogue SL price difference (insane)!

[Cord]

I don't understand the whining about the complaining, myself.

It's because talk is cheap. And chat room talk is worth less. How come nobody ever says, "The Canadian price for the Rogue is too high compared to the U.S. so screw you Nissan, I'm buying a used CRV." Even someone that buys one in the US garners more respect from me (how that punishes Nissan I don't know). The ones that just incessantly blather about how things should just be cheaper for them get none.

As someone in the car business, anything that would automatically make every car $5000 (or whatever) less would do nothing but help me sell more cars. But for many (most?) car buyers it would definitely be a two edged sword. Since most car buyers (new and used) have trades that they owe money on, whenever someone says, "Do you know how much I can get one of these for in the US?", the standard response is, "Do you know how much your trade is worth in the US?"

[airbalancer]

Cord, much will his US car be worth on a trade in Canada?
Have you had to price a US bought car?

[Cord]

Cord, much will his US car be worth on a trade in Canada?
Have you had to price a US bought car?

Because of the current influx of US high end vehicles, it really isn't considered much of a negative to buy an Escalade, Navigator, Corvette, FX45, etc. that is from the US. Not so for regular, everyday cars like a Focus, Civic, Camry, etc. People buying these types of used cars are very suspicious of a car with a US history, and as such, they usually have to be priced lower to compensate.

[PJungnitsch]

I can see why car salesmen wish people would just shut up. They probably get 99% of the complaints while having no control over how the distributors (who are making the money on this) set Canadian pricing.

Still, talk = awareness = consumers purchasing in the U.S/buying used/holding off new = prices going down. AFAIK all those ads and 'Canadian Pricing Discounts' are not due to sales slowing so much as growing consumer awareness that the distributors were ignoring the currency change and hoping we didn't notice. Spinning pure B.S. about equipment levels and such hasn't helped and the real reason 'We do it because we can' should raise real questions and discussion about how they can in a supposed competitive market.

The EU went through this years ago when despite 'one market' car distributors stubbornly insisted on keeping big price differentials per country. Officials went to raising awareness by researching and publishing these price differentials, and over time it worked, with the distributors eventually, and reluctantly, getting in line.

[Baron von Raschke]

PJungnitsch,

Well said.  We as Canadians often accept things they way they are and do not to challenge the status quo. Raising consumer awareness and keeping this issue in the public's eye will eventually lead to changes on how the manufacturers treat Canadians vs Americans.  Action also speaks volumes and I'm encouraged by the number of Canadians crossing the border to buy.....not because they shouldn't be buying Canadian, but because they shouldn't have to pay through the nose in the name of being patriotic.

If I'm faced with either purchasing a used car in Canada or a brand new car in the States that costs the same, of course I will buy stateside.

I have spent some time in northern U.S. states and I can vouch that they can be just as cold as some Canadian winters and the cars they have work just as well with the equipment they have.  I'd be curious to find out if cars in Alaska are $8000 to $10,000 more expensive than cars in Canada.

[safristi]

Don't be EXPECTING BIG DISCOUNTS in Canadian BUILT vehicles THEN   aka Civic.RX300..etc as we have had a 70% increase in OUR dollar Vis a Vis US and as the sayin goes  $$$$ don't LIE  but LIARS keep B/S'ing...........maybe Mexican built stuff and US sourced PARTS would fit yer BILL of SALE...........yup were inna FLUX.....and FLUX KNOWS wherer it will end......I wouldn't BUY NEW NOW in KANADA......WFIW

[TopGun]

talk = awareness = consumers purchasing in the U.S/buying used/holding off new = prices going down.

Elegantly stated PJungnitsch...I agree.

As I'm consulted on new car purchases by friends of mine, I tell them to hold-off...or buy US.  Many are holding off.

[mmret]

Chrysler just started rolling out the "New Canadian Pricing." 

I've heard a lot of ads on the radio, etc. from various manufacturers regarding how they "recognize the strength of the Canadian dollar" and I should "come into my local [whatever] dealer today!"

The bottom line is that talk is cheap, while numbers are real.

[sailor723]

Chrysler just started rolling out the "New Canadian Pricing." 

I've heard a lot of ads on the radio, etc. from various manufacturers regarding how they "recognize the strength of the Canadian dollar" and I should "come into my local [whatever] dealer today!"

The bottom line is that talk is cheap, while numbers are real.

 

When you look into most of those "we recognize the strong Canadian Dollar" ads you find the reality is that manufacturers that were priced 30% higher than the US are now doing us the favour of only charging an extra 20-25% over US pricing 

.....and don't get me started on that whole "our cars are specially designed and equiped for Canada" BS....how annoying is it as a potential buyer to be treated like you're that stupid?

[novaman]

Chrysler just started rolling out the "New Canadian Pricing." 

I've heard a lot of ads on the radio, etc. from various manufacturers regarding how they "recognize the strength of the Canadian dollar" and I should "come into my local [whatever] dealer today!"

The bottom line is that talk is cheap, while numbers are real.

 

When you look into most of those "we recognize the strong Canadian Dollar" ads you find the reality is that manufacturers that were priced 30% higher than the US are now doing us the favour of only charging an extra 20-25% over US pricing 

.....and don't get me started on that whole "our cars are specially designed and equiped for Canada" BS....how annoying is it as a potential buyer to be treated like you're that stupid?

No truer words have ever been spoken. It's all BS. I just we could get a revolt going. Canadians are too complacent. We need to take a stand. We are getting ripped off in alot more things then auto's also.

novaman

[si]

Well if Nissan is consistent with toyota the differnce breaks down like this

 * Heavy-duty heaters, batteries, and alternators; $1000
    * High capacity window washer fluid reservoirs; $1000
    * More robust weather stripping and seals;        $1000
    * Added paint chip protection;                        $1000
    * Mudguards;                                              $1000
    * All-season tires;                                        $1000
    * An outside temperature gauge;                    $500
    * Heated mirrors                                          $500
    * KPH Stickers                                            $15
    * French English Stickers                              $15
    * Daytime Running Lights                              $100

So as you can see the price difference is easily explained.

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[Benhaze]

I'm finding out the US-CA price difference for the CR-V is just as insane.

Significant other noticed a CR-V last weekend and really liked it. I had kept it off the list of potential candidates because of its weak engine and AWD system. But her reaction convinced me to investigate the CR-V 4WD EX-L model.

US: $26700 MSRP + $322 auto-dimming/cumpass mirror + $635 D&H =   $27657
CA: $35190 MSRP + $655 auto-dimming/cumpass mirror + $1540 D&H = $37385
                                                                                                   
The price difference is $9728 or 35% more than the US price (at PAR, and before any negotiations).

Of course Honda covers all its bases and doesn't honor US warranties for new or used vehicles unless you purchased the vehicle new while living in the US before moving to Canada.

$10,000 difference is a good incentive to stick it to Honda and still buy a new US vehicle; however someone who does that must be ready to keep the vehicle for 5 five years because of its questionable resale during the usual warranty coverage.

One thing for sure: Honda really me ... At least Toyota is making an effort on that aspect.

[sailor723]

I'm finding out the US-CA price difference for the CR-V is just as insane.

Significant other noticed a CR-V last weekend and really liked it. I had kept it off the list of potential candidates because of its weak engine and AWD system. But her reaction convinced me to investigate the CR-V 4WD EX-L model.

US: $26700 MSRP + $322 auto-dimming/cumpass mirror + $635 D&H =   $27657
CA: $35190 MSRP + $655 auto-dimming/cumpass mirror + $1540 D&H = $37385
                                                                                                   
The price difference is $9728 or 35% more than the US price (at PAR, and before any negotiations).

Of course Honda covers all its bases and doesn't honor US warranties for new or used vehicles unless you purchased the vehicle new while living in the US before moving to Canada.

$10,000 difference is a good incentive to stick it to Honda and still buy a new US vehicle; however someone who does that must be ready to keep the vehicle for 5 five years because of its questionable resale during the usual warranty coverage.

One thing for sure: Honda really me ... At least Toyota is making an effort on that aspect.

If I was in the market for a CR-V class of vehicle I'd seriously think about the new Forester. You can still find a US dealer to sell to you without too much trouble and although Subaru Canada won't honour the warranty SOA will reimburse you if you send them a copy of the repair invoice

[airbalancer]

How long does it take to get a check out of SOA?

[sailor723]

How long does it take to get a check out of SOA?

Haven't had the need to go through the process yet with the Tribeca. I was led to believe about 4 weeks was average. Anyone here have any first hand knowledge?

 Depending on where in your credit card billing cycle the repair was done you might well have your money before the statement due date.

I really don't see it as major issue. Even if there was no coverage I'd be very surprised if a properly maintained Tribeca had more than $13,000 worth of warranty work in the first 5 years or 100K

[inco]

Rogue has some competition. For those who have a chance check out the Journey in today's Wheels section. Loaded with AWD and the 3.5 litre V6 it tops out just under $30 grand.

I was liking the Nissan, but the for price difference I would want to look at this new entrant if I were in the market. Yeah, yeah, I know the build quality and all that, but that may be old news.

I did a comparo of the two under another tidbits post.