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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2007, 06:55:29 pm »

DOT numbers work if you do the following for highway and city...

Divide 283 by number of liters/100km highway = A(highway) mpg Canadian

Do same for city....                                    = B(city) mpg Canadian

Add A and B and divide by 2...                     = C (EPA averge) mpg Can. if lucky here a rebate is in order

Ordinary (keep up with the trafic style driving) overall mpg = C x .8 mpg (Canadian)

Obviously the result will depend on ratio Hghway/City usage and also vehicle loading and driving style but personal experience over 30,000 km. bears out the resulting number. Bear in mind that there are factors that make a significant difference to the results...head or tail winds....vehicle loading, heavy vehicle is great if destination is lower than starting point...sloping fill-up station pads (can make a significant difference especially from slope to opposite slope (usually not considered and will even out over a long study)....I doubt that all pumps cut at the same fill level...summer temp v winter temp.
US rating seemingly has undergone changes along these lines and their numbers seem to be pretty decent now, when I looked.
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2007, 08:35:03 pm »

Why is it that CD reviewers seldom seem able to give real-world fuel consumption numbers? Merely quoting Transport Canada's numbers are an utter waste of time- at best, err to the highest consumption number and hope you hit it. But good luck.

Get with it, Haney et al. Use your calculators or on-board computers.

Or take trucks and SUVs off road.
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2007, 12:44:51 am »

^ How would that make reviewers calculate proper fuel consumption...?  Huh
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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2007, 05:38:18 am »

^ How would that make reviewers calculate proper fuel consumption...?  Huh

I was referring to fuel consumption and making a general statement.
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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2007, 08:19:01 pm »

Terrible visibility, poor interior quality (based upon me and my wife inspecting one), very poor interior space...if this was built by a domestic company, people would tear it to pieces.

It's a contender for people who want 85% of the off-road ability of a Wrangler with a little bit more sophistication.  But overall, I can't understand choosing this over an XTerra for day-to-day use, or choosing this over a Wrangler Unlimited for weekend warrior use.

You are way too kind to Toyota... 85% of the Wrangler capabilities? More like 50%, perhaps... You need to experience a Jeep Jamboree or get under a FJ to see how wimpy the under-vehicle is protected. I'd love to see what a FJ would look like at the end of the Rubicon trail... assuming it makes it, of course.
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« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2007, 08:55:10 pm »

I test drove an FJ and could not buy one.  The visibility is just too bad for me.  The value equation is poor too, typical Toyota Canada pricing.  I would take a chance on shitty Jeep quality control and get a Wrangler 4-door long before the XJ.
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« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 03:08:21 pm »

I used to be a big Toyota fan.  As a matter of fact I was fanatic about their products.  However recently i am very disappointed with Toyota and their products and pricing.    we also test drove the FJ about a year ago and it has to be one of the worst designs i have ever seen.  the back 1/2 door that opens the oposite way is the most retarded design i have ever seen and Toyota will change that for the next Model.  it took all of 3 minutes for my wife and i to realize that this is a stupid design.

the other point is the pricing.  it starts at $30,000 but ends up at $40,000 some very quickly.  i talked to the local dealer and he was acting as though he was doing me a favor selling me a Toyota. Wrote an email to Toyota Canada requesting some explanation why their pricing so much higher than US;  I got brushed off.

Sooooo,  i imported a brand new 2007 Hummer H3 (fully loaded including leather and sunroof) for $27,500CAN to replace my wife's Sequoia and with the rest of the money, bought a used (1999) Jeep TJ for off-roading and weekend fun.

By the way, the H3 is 10 time the truck as the FJ.  if you do not believe me, go to youtube and search for Hummer H3 and see what some people do with a stock H3.  no modification.  in 5 years this hummer will become the next weekend warrior for me and my family.

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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2007, 03:41:42 pm »

I used to be a big Toyota fan.  As a matter of fact I was fanatic about their products.  However recently i am very disappointed with Toyota and their products and pricing.    we also test drove the FJ about a year ago and it has to be one of the worst designs i have ever seen.  the back 1/2 door that opens the oposite way is the most retarded design i have ever seen and Toyota will change that for the next Model.  it took all of 3 minutes for my wife and i to realize that this is a stupid design.

the other point is the pricing.  it starts at $30,000 but ends up at $40,000 some very quickly.  i talked to the local dealer and he was acting as though he was doing me a favor selling me a Toyota. Wrote an email to Toyota Canada requesting some explanation why their pricing so much higher than US;  I got brushed off.

Sooooo,  i imported a brand new 2007 Hummer H3 (fully loaded including leather and sunroof) for $27,500CAN to replace my wife's Sequoia and with the rest of the money, bought a used (1999) Jeep TJ for off-roading and weekend fun.

By the way, the H3 is 10 time the truck as the FJ.  if you do not believe me, go to youtube and search for Hummer H3 and see what some people do with a stock H3.  no modification.  in 5 years this hummer will become the next weekend warrior for me and my family.

screw you Toyota.


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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2007, 04:40:03 pm »

I woz thinkin' AvT  Huh.................................................. ROFL :rofl2:ya know cabin fever and all that........
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