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Re: Possible Changes in TC's immobilizer requirements?
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2007, 07:07:12 am »
All this talk about immobilizers and the so called part number "differences" between them will soon bring out a black market for "cracked" immobilizers in Buffalo and the border states.

Which is a good entrepreneurial answer to the problem that TC has.   

A friend of mine walked out to his car in the Company car park a few years back and it was missing both airbags... otherwise undamaged.   Maybe this will happen with the major parts of immobilizers ?
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Re: Possible Changes in TC's immobilizer requirements?
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2007, 05:47:34 am »
I am a little stumpled on this.  How is it the immobilizer is listed as a safety issue.  Safety wise what does it really do.  When I think back to the auto locking doors as soon as the vehicle is in drive I thought that was unsafe, just like most fire fighters do since it makes it hard to get into a vehicle at an accident scene.


So if the insurance industry is saying the following "Immobilizers won’t stop car theft or aid vehicle recovery "

So how is immobilizer a safety issue - less joying riding? don't think so they will just move on to an early 2000 model or older.

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Re: Possible Changes in TC's immobilizer requirements?
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2007, 09:24:22 am »
All this talk about immobilizers and the so called part number "differences" between them will soon bring out a black market for "cracked" immobilizers in Buffalo and the border states.

Which is a good entrepreneurial answer to the problem that TC has.   

A friend of mine walked out to his car in the Company car park a few years back and it was missing both airbags... otherwise undamaged.   Maybe this will happen with the major parts of immobilizers ?

On a similar vein I remember reading that a similar thing was happening with HID headlights a few years ago
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Re: Possible Changes in TC's immobilizer requirements?
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2007, 12:05:22 pm »
I strongly believe that TC and the insurance and special interest group lobby has it all wrong believing that Immobilizers are the "silver bullit" to the auto theft problem. I believe that it will be only a matter of time before cracks or hacks are found to circumvent these devices. As I have always said in my professional life "If you believe that technology will solve your security problems, you don't understand technology and you clearly don't understand the problem"

While an immobilizer alone might act as a barrier to those seeking a joyride it doesn't do anything to prevent someone from towing the car away to a chop shop and then chopping it up for parts or putting it in a container for export overseas where a clever person might eventually find a way of circumventing the device. I believe that if TC were serious about the issue they would work with the provinces to ensure that all vehicles we also equipped with some sort of tracking device like Lojack or Boomerang. They might also want to lobby the provinces and/or Justice Canada to adjust the penalties for theft of vehicles.

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