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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #180 on: December 03, 2007, 02:49:56 pm »
What a surprise….the only thread hrv frequents are the ones on how much he saved shopping in the US every weekend.

No, I just have far more interesting forums to spend time on.

Are you rebuilding that crv from the ground up?

Trust me, what you've spent on your car, providing you maintain it, is far far more than what I've spend on my CR-V in 9 years.   ::) Its running great now, thanks to that Honda dealer in the US giving 30% off "their lower" MSRP prices.

Why not just move there. ::)

I've heard that before and according to some acquaintences, "what a stupid remark...don't they question what they pay for things". I tell them "obviously not".

By the way, my BMW oil filter: $22 up here, CA$12.77 down there...same filter. Got a bunch...split it with friends...got a whole bunch of other stuff...zero gas costs as I went to visit friends in NY state.  :rofl:

Its so much fun klnowing how my US shopping irritates you to no end.


No, you got it all wrong...you are irritating. You have no idea what I spend on my vehicles what makes you think you do?
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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #181 on: December 03, 2007, 02:51:42 pm »
...got a whole bunch of other stuff...zero gas costs as I went to visit friends in NY state.  :rofl:

Must be nice to have friends that pay for you gas  ;)
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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #182 on: December 03, 2007, 03:14:19 pm »
...got a whole bunch of other stuff...zero gas costs as I went to visit friends in NY state.  :rofl:

Must be nice to have friends that pay for you gas  ;)

That's what they tell him, anyway.  They're really paying him to leave.

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #183 on: December 03, 2007, 03:31:37 pm »
Border shipping fees spark complaints :'(

Duty, tax and customs brokerage fees can add up  :idea:
Dec 03, 2007 04:30 AM

DANA FLAVELLE
TORONTO STAR

Sam Patterson thought he got a good deal when he ordered an MP3 player on the Internet for $160 (U.S.). But when the parcel arrived on his doorstep, the courier company said he owed another $80 (Canadian) in duties, taxes and customs brokerage fees.
"That's half of what I paid for this thing. That's ridiculous," the 50-year-old Toronto film production employee says.
He refused to pay the charges and told the courier company to send the item back to the United States.
Like Patterson, more Canadians are cross-border shopping online now that the Canadian dollar is at par with the U.S. greenback, and a weak U.S. economy is driving retailers to offer big bargains south of the border.
But while some Canadian online shoppers say they've scored amazing deals, others say the experience left them cold.
Most of the complaints revolve around unexpected shipping charges for duties, taxes and customs brokerage fees, or wait times for delivery, a growing issue as Christmas Day approaches.
Duties can range from zero to more than 18 per cent, depending on the product and where it's made, according to the Canada Border Services Agency, the federal agency responsible for assessing duties.
There's no easy way for the average consumer to figure it out in advance, says Patterson, and few online retailers provide the information for you. "Most websites don't say on the order page that there could be additional charges."
The list of import duties listed on Industry Canada's website is hundreds of pages long. The section governing just shoes, a popular online purchase, and other footwear is 15 pages long.
The federal goods and services tax, at 6 per cent, and provincial sales tax, in Ontario 8 per cent, and any excise tax is added on top of whatever duty is charged.
Then there's the problem of clearing customs.
Do you pay a private courier service, like UPS Canada, a customs brokerage fee, which can run between $20 and $70, to expedite it for your? Or do you ship through the postal service, which charges a flat $5 fee, but may take longer to deliver? Or do you avoid the fees altogether by making a trip to the customs office in Mississauga?
Two of the biggest complaints about cross-border shipping involve unexpected costs and delivery delays, a growing concern with Christmas deadlines looming.
So many consumers have complained about UPS Canada's brokerage fees that they have sparked several class-action lawsuits.
In a statement of claim filed by Siskinds LLP in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice last February, the plaintiffs say they weren't warned in advance there would be extra fees and that the fees charged are excessive.
UPS Canada says it is defending itself against the claim. Its brokerage fees cover the cost of expediting the parcels through Canada Customs, the courier service explains.
"Importing goods into Canada requires the payment of duties and taxes. These fees include PST, GST, duties and other taxes on goods (e.g. excise tax)," UPS Canada spokesperson Shannon Morton says in an email. "UPS Customs Brokerage rates and provides payment to Canada Customs for these fees to expedite clearance at the border on behalf of its importers," Morton says. "UPS provides a charge for this service."
The rates for those services are based on the value of the parcels and are outlined on its website, the company also says. They range from a low of zero for parcels worth less than $20 to a high of $69 for items worth more than $1,600.
The Canada Border Services Agency, which is responsible for enforcing the Customs Act, says customs brokerage fees are unregulated and have nothing to do with how the government levies it charges.
Agency spokesperson Patrizia Giolti agrees the fees private courier services charge can vary widely.
"It's best to shop around." On the other hand, shipping through the postal system can mean longer waits, she says.
The Consumers Association of Canada says it continues to receive complaints from customers who say their parcels are taking four to six weeks to be delivered.
The problem began as the Canadian dollar reached par with its U.S. counterpart, the association says.
Canada Post spokesperson François Legault says it has worked closely with the border services agency to process additional volumes. Asked about Christmas delivery deadlines, he recommends ordering as soon as possible.


http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/281890

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #184 on: December 03, 2007, 03:43:58 pm »
Wow the Canadian government is just screwing the little guy. Lazy public sector employees who are just a tool of the automotive lobbyists, or is it insurance lobbyists, or electronics lobbyists, or is it the courier lobbyists.

I forget who we're blaming this week, Snowy? ;) :P

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #185 on: December 03, 2007, 03:49:01 pm »
Never underestimate the stupidity of the consumer.  I’m a victim :'( :'( please bail me out with taxpayer’s money.

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #186 on: December 03, 2007, 10:50:31 pm »
Anyone who has done any serious cross border e-shopping knows quite well that getting something shipped through UPS is going to add a significant amount of $$ at the end.

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #187 on: December 04, 2007, 09:05:15 am »
Never underestimate the stupidity of the consumer.

Well you and a few others anyways.  :rofl: :rofl2:
What you won't find in my car is a coffee, cigarette and a cell phone. What you will find is a driver; imagine that, a driver in a vehicle. What an effing concept!

A car has to do more than just perform; it has to stir your soul!

A true driver's car does not have cup holders.

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #188 on: December 04, 2007, 10:13:09 am »
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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #189 on: December 04, 2007, 10:16:49 am »
 :rofl2: :rofl: :laugh:

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #190 on: December 04, 2007, 01:46:27 pm »
:rofl2: :rofl: :laugh:

Hey, are you and Snowman butt buddies?

It sure looks like it.

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #191 on: December 04, 2007, 01:57:09 pm »
..THAT BIKE sure is AWESOME day....I'll tour the Alps in one...one of my 100 things to Do before I take over Canadian Driver...... ;D :banana: :banana: >:D
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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #192 on: December 04, 2007, 01:58:38 pm »
:rofl2: :rofl: :laugh:

I second that.  Good one, Snowy.   :rofl2:

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #193 on: December 04, 2007, 02:16:26 pm »
That was funny, Snowy.

Just curious though, so what if HCRV chooses to only visit and post in certain threads?  If he's getting good deals and wishes to share it with people, I'm sure there are those who read the forum who would be interested in it. 

Not everyone agrees with crossing the border to get better deals -- okay, we get it.  I went to Buffalo for some shopping in October.  I wasn't really thrilled with the deals and chose to bring my money back home and do my 'birthday shopping' here again.  Doesn't mean I need to attack others or berate them for finding good deals Stateside, does it?

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #194 on: December 04, 2007, 02:19:24 pm »
 Ah it's great when TWO MASSIVE MINDS and PERSONALITIES MEET IN COMBAT and a WAR OF WORDS and BRILLIANT THOUGHT...................


 well when is this gonna happen?????..............


WELL TICKETS fer Mr Meoww vs SAF are available at ALL SPIKEY NORMAN GIRLS CONCERTS........... ::) :P
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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #195 on: December 04, 2007, 02:25:31 pm »
That was funny, Snowy.

Just curious though, so what if HCRV chooses to only visit and post in certain threads?  If he's getting good deals and wishes to share it with people, I'm sure there are those who read the forum who would be interested in it. 

Not everyone agrees with crossing the border to get better deals -- okay, we get it.  I went to Buffalo for some shopping in October.  I wasn't really thrilled with the deals and chose to bring my money back home and do my 'birthday shopping' here again.  Doesn't mean I need to attack others or berate them for finding good deals Stateside, does it?

:iagree:  I really appreciate HCRV's posts and I see no reason not to take them at face value.  The kinds of deals he talks about are totally in line with my experience.  I have mail-ordered a lot of bicycle stuff from the US over the years and it's sad to see how much Canadian distributors are over-charging retail stores on this side of the border (note that I'm not blaming Canadian bike retailers, it's the distributors that oftentimes charge them more than I can get stuff for from the US online).

As for the poster, I think it crosses the line in terms of a personal attack...
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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #196 on: December 04, 2007, 02:29:56 pm »
That was funny, Snowy.

Just curious though, so what if HCRV chooses to only visit and post in certain threads?  If he's getting good deals and wishes to share it with people, I'm sure there are those who read the forum who would be interested in it. 

Not everyone agrees with crossing the border to get better deals -- okay, we get it.  I went to Buffalo for some shopping in October.  I wasn't really thrilled with the deals and chose to bring my money back home and do my 'birthday shopping' here again.  Doesn't mean I need to attack others or berate them for finding good deals Stateside, does it?
I have zero problems with people crossing the border to shop, but I do have a problem with them thinking 1) it has zero effect on our economy, 2) business people are nothing but dishonest scrooges trying to steal from everyone, and 3) you can only save money in the US and don't calculate the true cost of cross border shopping.

I have done and will continue to shop across the border.

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #197 on: December 04, 2007, 02:39:27 pm »
jcon since U KNOW IT ALL..........How much does it effect our economy...and why is that? and as to POINTS 2 and  3, U seem to be building a STRAW man and putting words in his mouth..which i see as a BIGGER PROBLEM........


 I personally image this Temp reversal of Buying POWER is GOOD fer US(little Consumers (NO US not U.S) fer once in 30 years  we always hear about the BIG Foresty Mining Auto INDUSTRYS woes....fack em iif they wanna take advantage of us NOW...and the Monies are infinetessimal in the BIG SCHEME of THINGS....

 why should no one complain when US Tourist  Car Buyers were picking up our sh*t fer 63 cents onna dollar...give US a BREAK...That's wot this IS...get ovr yerselves U Save Kanada  LOT....

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #198 on: December 04, 2007, 04:01:07 pm »
That was funny, Snowy.

Just curious though, so what if HCRV chooses to only visit and post in certain threads?  If he's getting good deals and wishes to share it with people, I'm sure there are those who read the forum who would be interested in it. 

Not everyone agrees with crossing the border to get better deals -- okay, we get it.  I went to Buffalo for some shopping in October.  I wasn't really thrilled with the deals and chose to bring my money back home and do my 'birthday shopping' here again.  Doesn't mean I need to attack others or berate them for finding good deals Stateside, does it?

After 50 posts on the subject I think we get the picture. There is no need to go on and on unless there is another motive.

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Re: Anyone going shopping in US for the long weekend?
« Reply #199 on: December 04, 2007, 04:30:38 pm »
Let's drag this on.  Rubber floor mats for my 2007 civic $158 plus tax at my local dealer and no if an's or but's they would not move on the price.  Order the same mats from a US Honda dealer $78 plus tax plus ground shipping $15. Received the mats last week no duty or brokerage charge cost approx $100 versus the aprprox $180 is would of cost me here.  So why are parts half the price from the US.