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Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« on: November 02, 2007, 04:24:01 pm »
Hello all, I am brand new at this forum.

I have spent the afternoon trying to find out about cars that aren't as close to the ground as our aging Honda (Accord) and Nissan -I forget what kind it is. Sorry - I'm not good at car info.

Anyway we would like to ride a bit higher off the ground so the car is easier to get into and out of, as we are both (husband and I) plagued with joint problems. We saw an older couple in a parking lot one time with a Toyota Rava, and it had a door at the back as well - I have learned today that that is called "5 door". It looked fabulous for our purposes, and they were very happy with it.

However, it seems that they are classified as SUVs, and I prefer to have a more fuel efficient type of car, and less controversial re: the environment. I am not ready to purchase a hybrid yet, they need more development to get the kinks out and the price lower. We have had station wagons in the past, but they were also close to the ground.

We usually buy our cars used, usually Japanese imports, and manual transmission. Any ideas or recommendations?

Thanks a million. I hope I got the correct forum for this type of question, and my apologies for my basic question.

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2007, 04:30:28 pm »
IF you like the high ride height and you buy used, a Pontiac Vibe, Toyota Matrix (essentially the same car) or the Honda CR-V (it also has the door at the back). The CR-V is a Mini-SUV powered by a 4 cylinder engine which is fairly thrifty. The Toyota Rav4 in a 4 cylinder model probably wouldn't be bad either. How old a vehicle are you thinking about buying? 2-3 years? What type of budget are you looking at? This will help narrow your choices.
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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2007, 04:35:53 pm »
Welcome to the forum. As a 60 year-old with joint and back issues, I certainly can understand where you are coming from. It certainly was a major factor when I was buying 2 years ago. DockMan's suggestions are all good. My Yaris hatchback is excellent in that regard as well, but it may not be large enough for your needs. It does have the advantages of being extremely fuel efficient AND the engine is ULEV-2 compliant (very low polluting). I'm sure you will get many good suggestions. 
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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2007, 04:43:34 pm »
I'd suggest Nissan Versa as well. Its quite spacious inside has a slightly larger/powerful engine compared to Honda Fit and Toyota Yaris.

These three are available as sedans and hatchbacks, since you had station wagons in the past, you might like their hatchback offerings. If you two are the only people using the car, this could suffice space wise.
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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2007, 04:50:05 pm »
Oh, thanks for the quick replies! I am copying down all your info.

Yes, Dockman, 2-3 years old is what I would love, and perhaps around $23K if that is possible. Or less!! Ha ha - who wouldn't love a good deal.

UmroAyyar - we would be the only ones driving, but would like to have enough room for passengers to sit comfortably as well. The rear door we saw on the Rava was great for loading groceries, etc.

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2007, 04:53:10 pm »
Rear passenger room needed, in that case add Mazda 5 to the list. Should fit in that price range.

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2007, 04:59:48 pm »
One thing I have read about is the tendency to be less stable if the vehicle is riding high. Are there any that are less likely to roll - I guess that would be with a wider wheel base? And anything not as high - like, in between a low car and a high SUV?

I have been trying to read about the Honda CRV - the pictures I have seen for used models makes then seem large, like a regular SUV. Is there a difference in the  more recent models - like shorter length?

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2007, 05:26:28 pm »
I would suggest the Nissan Versa or Suzuki SX4. Both are roomy and the SX4 is high (almost as high as an SUV). The Versa's gas mileage is better, but the SX4's is acceptable if you look at it as a mini-SUV and not as a sub-compact.

The Versa is built in Mexico, while the SX4 is built in Japan. I think the Japanese build quality of the SX4 is much better.

I haven't heard much good about the Versa's manual transmission - lots of reviews seem to be negative. I’ve heard good things about the SX4's. I haven't driven a manual Versa, but based on my brief SX4 test drive, the shifter struck me as being a bit pernickety - you have to be assertive with it. It's not bad - it just has personality.

According to the reviews the handling on the Versa is not as good as the SX4.

I think the visibility is slightly better in the Versa because the thicker A-pillars in the SX4 create blind spots.

Whatever you choose, make sure you get a car with a light clutch, to save your knee.
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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2007, 05:42:35 pm »
Ah, good point about the clutch. I prefer manual transmission, and it may all be in my head, but it feels like I have better control over the motor especially on ice. However, I may have to forgo that advantage, break down and look at automatic transmissions.

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2007, 06:05:47 pm »
By the way, it is a RAV4, not a RAVA.  ;)

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2007, 06:47:07 pm »
We went car shopping last year for more or less the same reasons you state - sit higher; all-around easier on joints, in this case mine.  Specifically, my left hip was giving out from driving a standard in town (way too much clutch action) and the very angled seating position in our rather low station wagon - not to mention the wear and tear from entry and egress, as I am in and out of the car a lot.  We have two kids in their teens, and often pack a fair bit of gear, so we wanted something that basically was just like our Suzuki station wagon, only higher. 

The two vehicles in the new car market that met our criteria were the Mazda 5 and the Kia Rondo.  We bought the Rondo, with an automatic transmission, and although we do regret losing the manual, are more than delighted with the car - and after driving it for 10 months now, my hip is so much better I feel like a new woman.  I'm doing stuff, like riding my bike, that I thought I'd never be able to do again. 

Besides the relief from constant clutching that the automatic offers, the key attribute of the car that has made a difference for me is certainly the higher seating, which lets me sit folded to 90 degrees and not tighter.  But another important aspect is the lower floor.  That is something that absolutely differentiates these two vehicles from SUVs, which all purport to be off-roadable and so incorporate a high ground clearance.  That means a big step up, and an entry/exit process that is as hard on joints in some ways as slinging yourself into a lower car.  That off-roadability is also what boosts the price of some SUVs, as they have heavier-duty suspensions and so on (that vague ending is to conceal my lack of precise knowledge about SUVs - how am I doing?). 

Other vehicles you might want to consider include the Jeep Compass and the Chevy HHR; they didn't do it for us for one reason or another but might work for you.  Other models mentioned already, like the Vibe, are also good to investigate. 

If the high floor doesn't bother you, you might want to investigate the compact SUV segment... Nissan X-trail (which I understand is about to be discontinued - shame), Subaru Forester or maybe even the Outback?.  Kia and Hyundai also make small SUVs, and if price were no object, I'd be curious about what the Acura RDX is like inside.  I'm not sure what else still fits into this category.  The older Honda CRV and the Toyota Rav4 certainly did, but their newer versions are humungous. 

You say you're used-car shopping in any event, and you can study the specifications, including floor height and often seating height, of most years of most models on-line. 

Good luck, and keep the forum posted on your progress. 

Edit:  price-wise, the $23K range should get you into a new Mazda 5 or Kia Rondo, base models at least, or several other of the cars mentioned above. 
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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2007, 07:04:44 pm »
I am 61 6' tall, heavy well over 220 lbs and getting stiff but no back problems.  We have a Honda Fit which has a fairly high "hip point" and has plenty of room for 4 people... much to my surprise... we had visitors and spent many hours with 4 big people on board and no complaints or stiffness.    Ours has  a very easy shifting manual transmission with a light clutch and excellent gas mileage, we have not got less that 39mpg in our ownership. And importantly you can get one with every comfort for $21K including taxes. It has the 5 doors and has enormous space inside for a small car.

It is actually about the same size outside as a 1980's Honda Accord.

I have to say ( hate to say  :( )that the Fit works better for me than my own BMW  except for one thing.... one tiny thing.  Although the BMW is much lower, because it has leather seats one can drop into the seat and slide into position. In the Fit the cloth seats are made of a high friction cloth material and although they are higher from the ground they are, for me, a bit more difficult to get into.

You should certainly go look at one.
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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2007, 07:45:54 pm »
The Mazda 5 has a pretty good seat height and is a versatile small wagon with 6 seats. It is available with a decent manual transmission as well.
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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2007, 08:49:54 pm »
The Kia Rondo and Mazda5 would both be great options, and as said above you could them new, or at even a year old with low KM's and be significantly below your budget. :thumbup:

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2007, 10:23:26 pm »
D'oh! It's just like me to misread the name of the car! Rav4 - I wondered why my Google search kept bringing up Rav4,...So, I guess the 4 doesn't refer to how many doors there are.

Well I now have lots of great ideas to investigate. My husband was just saying that with the Canadian dollar doing so well wrt the American, the cost of the new cars may be coming down at the Canadian dealerships to compete with the rush to buy south of the border, so it may well pay to buy new. Anyone heard the buzz on that note?

Thanks gottarondo, for sharing your experience from last year. You can certainly make it look like you are knowledgeable about them. At least, you got the spelling of the names correct! (I think - but how would I know?)   :D

Thank you, thank you to all who have responded so far. What a wealth of info available on the forum! I hope I can put my excitement aside enough to get some sleep tonight,.. ;D

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2007, 10:34:49 pm »
If you are buying used, and have the time / energy, you may want to go take a look down south and import a used car.

The suggestions given above are good (CRV/RAV4 4cyl, Mazda 5, Vibe/Matrix, Forester/Outback). I would give my mother a very similar list if she came back to Canada today. Will be a little bit tougher to find this kind of those car in a 5speed though.

In any case you could budget some money for aftermarket leather on the front seat, and at that point might as well have them toss in heated seats if you don't already have them. It does make it much easier to slide into. I'm guessing its around $1500 or so?
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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2007, 11:00:57 pm »
Welcome to the forum!

I find it kinda odd that you don't know what kind of car you drive (the Nissan).  ???

But anyways...manual Transmission, ride height..

How about a Honda Element? Or is it too "funky" looking?

http://www.trader.ca/powerpage/details.aspx?vlotid=6080&adid=6357879

They are cheaper than CR-V's, but are less comfortable. 

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2007, 11:34:25 pm »
I don't drive the Nissan. Now that my husband is home, I know it's a Maxima.  ::)

I'm not really "into" cars, so I don't pay much attention to details like model names until I have to,..

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Re: Mom in her 50's looking for suggestions
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2007, 11:37:00 pm »
Yeah that Honda "Element" doesn't say "Mom mobile" as much as the Mazda 5 or the Kia Rondo. Though I'm sure my son would love it,...

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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2007, 11:40:15 pm »
Yeah that Honda "Element" doesn't say "Mom mobile" as much as the Mazda 5 or the Kia Rondo. Though I'm sure my son would love it,...

Not sure how to get away from the Mom-mobile image in this category, unless you can somehow find a Legacy Outback Sedan from the US, or start talking slightly premium crossover (debatable image).

Does the Honda Element still have that rubber floor?