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« on: July 28, 2007, 12:30:54 am »

I cannot confirm this but I was told the US dealers were sent letters notifying dealers down there that they could no longer sell to Canadian customers.  Any monies exchanged hands should be returned and no cars should change hands.  A friend plopped down his money last week for a Tundra.  I'll wait to see if he gets a truck or his cheque back.  Another friend was in the middle of buying a minivan....apparently now squashed. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2007, 12:34:12 am »

Then they shalt become Happy Honda shoppers down south.  Smiley  hello hello  Toyota hello hello
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2007, 01:10:58 am »

Yikes. I wonder why Subaru Canada hasn't done this?  Huh
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2007, 01:18:23 am »

I would think Subaru would be much less likely to do anything that might reduce their volume of sales in NA (even if it hurts Subaru Canada a bit). Toyota OTOH doesn't seem to have many problems pushing the metal out the door in either Canada or the US.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2007, 07:28:18 am »

My son email a place in Maine, (wanted pricing on a FJ) and their reply it was against the franchise rules to sell to Canadians
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2007, 07:44:47 am »

My son email a place in Maine, (wanted pricing on a FJ) and their reply it was against the franchise rules to sell to Canadians

If we crash do we not bleed? If we fill-up do we not pay through the nose? If it rattles do we not complain?

Oh Toyota, why don't you see were all just the same? Why don't you just treat Canadians and Americans equally?
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2007, 09:19:12 am »

In praise of the almighty dollar we beseach thee not to do that....or words to that effect in the Toyota memorandum. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2007, 10:08:22 am »

A slightly used Toyota is a still option for those people I guess
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2007, 11:55:45 am »

Did they do the same thing to Americans buying in Canada a decade or so ago when it was cheaper to buy a car in Canada than in the States?

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2007, 11:57:27 am »

What about Scion vehicles?  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2007, 12:04:38 pm »

Wot? Tongue about them Ugly Vans.......has yer Olde breadbox broken...Huh
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2007, 12:29:41 pm »

It's common in the States to have residency restrictions for car sales as it is. Not selling to Canadians is simply an extension of this practice.

That being said, a good used car is still fair ball. Used car prices in Florida seemed ridiculously cheap. Might have to fly down and drive back when it comes to car buying time again.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2007, 01:40:40 pm »

Used car prices in Florida seemed ridiculously cheap. Might have to fly down and drive back when it comes to car buying time again.

Do they have to reveal whether the car is a "Katrina"-used?
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2007, 02:14:54 pm »

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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2007, 04:54:21 pm »

Did they do the same thing to Americans buying in Canada a decade or so ago when it was cheaper to buy a car in Canada than in the States?



Example?

Even with the low Canadian dollar Toyota's (at least the trucks) were still more expensive in Canada. 
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2007, 05:07:52 pm »

It is a fact that a number of years ago, a local Dodge dealer was selling trucks into the US as the Cdn dollar was so weak against the US at that time. He was told by DC to stop selling to US customers. He continued to sell and lost his franchise over it. He was kicked out. Period.

So, it does happen the other way also.
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2007, 05:23:35 pm »

It is a fact that a number of years ago, a local Dodge dealer was selling trucks into the US as the Cdn dollar was so weak against the US at that time. He was told by DC to stop selling to US customers. He continued to sell and lost his franchise over it. He was kicked out. Period.

So, it does happen the other way also.

Yes domestic trucks and especially the 3/4 and 1 ton diesels. I am wondering has it ever happened with Toyotas?

I had an 85 Supra which was more expensive here than the US.
Later I had an 88 Toyota 4*4 which was more expensive in Canada
My last Toyota was a 90 4Runner. This also was more expensive in Canada.

I am out of date on my Toyotas. Does anyone have an experience with a Toyota being less expensive in Canada?


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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2007, 05:28:12 pm »

When I worked at Toyota we had to send letters to Cdn dealers. Mostly was on the more exclusive product - hot in the US but less demand in Canada. At the time, the SC 430 for example or larger trucks & SUVs. We had to make it priority because if the US wanted more allocation and Canada wasn't selling what it had to Cdns and was instead selling to Americans it gave good reason for Toyota Japan to cut Cdn allocation and boost American which we didn't want happening.
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2007, 12:08:40 am »

I cannot confirm this but I was told the US dealers were sent letters notifying dealers down there that they could no longer sell to Canadian customers.  Any monies exchanged hands should be returned and no cars should change hands.  A friend plopped down his money last week for a Tundra.  I'll wait to see if he gets a truck or his cheque back.  Another friend was in the middle of buying a minivan....apparently now squashed. 

It sure would be nice to see some test cases of 'collusion' or some such brought against the Canadian dealers.  This stuff just seems to *so* fly in the face of NAFTA.  The offset in pricing alone, along with the nose-thumbing "We do because we CAN" attitude from the Canadian company, just wrankles me.  I'm glad I got my Toyota when I did.  But, I did have to shop around a fair bit to find a dealer that would sell to Canucks.

I have heard now that some Canadian dealers are out and out refusing to service vehicles known to originate from US dealers -- oil changes and basic stuff like that!  That seems plain old contemptuous!  I'll have to see if my local Toyota dealers will play that "We refuse to service your US-bought Toyota" game with me in a few months.
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2007, 12:52:15 am »

Let us know how the court case goes.
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