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Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« on: June 26, 2007, 08:10:13 am »
They should of put a Camery front end on it


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Newcomers: 2008 Toyota Highlander

 

Family size: 800-pound gorilla gets a bigger suit

By Kim Reynolds


One of the problems parents encounter when dropping their kids off at school is the obligatory wave. You know, a familiar Sienna or Odyssey minivan drives by, and you wave. Trouble is, there are dozens of Siennasseys in the lot, so you have to wave at each one just to be sure. This country's grade-school parking lots are crying out for something different-and Toyota's got a dandy new candidate in the 2008 Highlander.

 



"But Highlanders are too small," weary new parents out there yawn. Well, not anymore, Mister and Missus Carpool. It's 3.8 inches longer, 3.3 inches wider, and 2.8 inches taller. It's bigger! Yes!

Grown from the same structural seed that sprouted the Avalon and Camry, the roomier Highlander's interior is highlighted by an extractable (and stowable) center row that provides a unique kid corridor to the aft quarters (also more spacious and fitted almost universally across the lineup). The family-friendly theme continues with an adequate 3.5-inch rear-camera display on all but the base model, plus easy-reach levers that remotely fold down the second-row seats from the rear hatch.

 

 

As with the Camry and Avalon, power for the traditional gasoline version is supplied by a 270-horse, 3.5-liter V-6 coupled to a five-speed automatic transmission. No surprise that acceleration is strong nor that the front-drive version's steering suffers momentary vertigo when you give it the stick from a stop. The Sport model's recalibrated steering software and stiffer springs don't cure this, but they nicely focus the handling of front and AWD models, with modest ride degradation.



This isn't a problem with the hybrid version (which is just about all carryover hardware) because it's outfitted just one way-with AWD. Notably, it also offers identical output to the gas Highlander, 270 combined gas-and-electric horsepower, making for a particularly elementary mileage comparison: According to the EPA's all-new, real-world 2008 mileage metric, the hybrid has a 37-percent economy advantage. It also offers an EV-mode button that theoretically instructs (though rarely allows) it to traverse up to three miles at 25 mph without firing the engine. More effective is the "Econ" mode that intelligently smoothes power changes if it deems the driver's accelerator foot is just being fidgety.

So move over, you other grade-school haulers, there's going to be a bright new face you'll need to wave at.

2008 Toyota Highlander Base price $27,300-$34,150
Vehicle layout Front engine, FWD or AWD, 5- or 7-pass, 4-door SUV
Engines 3.5L/270-hp/248-lb-ft DOHC 24-valve V-6; 3.3L/209-hp/212-lb-ft V-6 plus 167-hp/247-lb-ft front and 68-hp/96-lb-ft rear electric motors, 270-hp combined
Transmissions 5-speed auto; cont variable auto
Curb weight 4000-4650 lb (mfr)
Wheelbase 109.8 in
Length x width x height 188.4 x 75.2 x 68.1 in
0-60 mph 7.0-7.7 sec (MT est)
EPA city/hwy fuel econ 17-27/23-25 mpg* (est)
CO2 emissions 0.75-1.02 lb/mile (est)
On sale in U.S. July 2007; October 2007 (hybrid) *2008 EPA test standards

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 09:32:20 am »
Funny - that front end reminds me of a cross between a Santa Fe and the new Tribeca. Interesting - Toyota isn't pushing any envelope here on the design, but it will sell really well on reputation alone.
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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 09:40:45 am »
Funny - that front end reminds me of a cross between a Santa Fe and the new Tribeca. Interesting - Toyota isn't pushing any envelope here on the design, but it will sell really well on reputation alone.
May 07sells where only 157, not that great , May 06 was 273

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 10:08:09 am »
Looks like a really fat RAV4...
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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 10:12:03 am »
I love what you can do with the centre section of the middle row, nice to have some real thought put into that.
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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 10:25:38 am »
I like the second row seat arrangement, it seems Toyota doesn't want to 'Cutify' its crossovers/suvs.
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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2007, 10:53:52 am »
Why can't Toyota come up nice designs? This CUV is hard on my eyes. I'm sure it's a good car and of course it will sale, but why not make them good looking too?
This car is just bland and this is being polite. :(

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 11:55:00 am »
Funny - that front end reminds me of a cross between a Santa Fe and the new Tribeca. Interesting - Toyota isn't pushing any envelope here on the design, but it will sell really well on reputation alone.
May 07sells where only 157, not that great , May 06 was 273

May 07 stats are meaningless as the model was discontinued, no more being built, just sales of dealer inventory, and every potential HL buyer knows the new one is here soon. The May 07 sales numbers are no surprise. Watch when the new one starts selling a month or two into sales. That will be a far more meaningful number.

That said, personally I think the present HL is the "right" size and I am not that happy that the new one will be longer, heavier, and generally bigger. If I'm going to look at that size, I would take a hard look at the new MDX also.
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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 12:01:02 pm »
What do you say about the May 06 sales?
Also how many people knew in May knew that there was a new HL coming out
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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2007, 12:10:37 pm »
What do you say about the May 06 sales?
Also how many people knew in May knew that there was a new HL coming out
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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2007, 12:28:45 pm »
What do you say about the May 06 sales?
Also how many people knew in May knew that there was a new HL coming out
Most people spend more time on Myspace or Facebook then CTC ;D

May 06 sales were "respectable"; don't forget this model has been out since 2001.

I would think most potential buyers knew in May that the new model was coming, as the news has been out since at least January this year, and in wide distribution. You didn't need to be a car nut to know it.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. For the record, although some consider the first gen HL styling bland, mine has been just an excellant vehicle for what it is intended, and I have been very pleased with it. Would I trade it in the future for something new/more exciting? Maybe, but no problems with keeping it either. It does what it's supposed to with zero hassle and I have other toys for having "fun".

Regardless of posters on here opinions of the new one, it will sell very well, believe me.  :)

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2007, 12:38:02 pm »
I would look at a new one when I am in the market, just with all the new CUV in the market , I think price will be a large factor if it will be a large seller in Canada

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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2007, 02:58:27 pm »
I would look at a new one when I am in the market, just with all the new CUV in the market , I think price will be a large factor if it will be a large seller in Canada

I think it will be more expensive than the old one, which wasn't quite cheap either. In the US, the price went up by $100s to $1,000+ depending on the model. I would expect the same in Canada.

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2007, 08:57:38 pm »
If these "things" are competing with the new GM crossovers they have already lost. ;D

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2007, 07:25:35 am »
As a previous owner of a Highlander I am disappointed with the exterior dimensions of the new model as I agree with Ovr on the current models size and abilities. The interior looks nicely done but suspect the goodies will be expensive as you move up the trim levels.

I’m curious on the pricing and financing that Toyota will offer as I really believe the new GM Acadia is a hit and will be a strong player in this market. GM has made a quantum leap in the X-Over game...... despite all subsequent posts by Artic Steve.

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2007, 09:26:38 am »
That's a really fugly SUV on the outside, on the other hand, the inside is really nice.
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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2007, 04:43:53 pm »
That's a really fugly SUV on the outside, on the other hand, the inside is really nice.

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2007, 07:15:51 pm »
Looks like a really fat RAV4...

Exactly what I thought.  A step backwards in design for Toyota

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2007, 03:33:15 pm »
Looks like a really fat RAV4...

Exactly what I thought.  A step backwards in design for Toyota
Or a swollen Sienna.

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Re: Motor trends review 08 Highlander
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2007, 07:46:23 pm »
Looks like a really fat RAV4...

Exactly what I thought.  A step backwards in design for Toyota
Or a swollen Sienna.

As an owner of a Sienna, I do not see any Sienna in the new HL.  My very first thought on looking at that first picture was Forester.

I agree with ovr and Snowie, why go bigger (again)?  Seems to be a Toyota trend in the last few years.  A trend I do not like.
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